I'm homeless, 18 and I know you people are going to give it to me straight

Ody_ssey · 2021-02-11T07:16:25+00:00

Learn programming. Many people learn it in their 20s. You are still 18, life is just started.

I would start Python, the easiest one and incredibly powerful.

mgtowthrowaway0 · 2021-02-11T07:27:46+00:00

You're going to be alright. One day you'll look back at the hardships in your life and view them as a darkcloud with a silver lining.

I started off similar to you, on my own, 16, one set of clothes and $20 to my name. I moved from park bench, to shelter, to student accommodation, to gf, to my own place, took me about 3 years.

It's going to suck for the next few years, and you'll likely pick up some emotional baggage you'll have to fix later in life, but if you rise to the challenge and master your circumstances you will reach a level self-reliance, independence and ambition unmatched by your peers. You don't really have another viable choice but to go through it. Use your anger as a driving force if you need to, I did, but it's healthier not to.

In the beginning I worked 2 jobs, studied, and did freelance contract gigs - I rarely slept - I played to my skills in Web Development and worked my ass off. I spent little and ate frugally, I didn't socialise. Life didn't get better for me until my early 20s. I didn't get to go clubbing until my mid 20s.

I'm in my mid-thirties now, I manage a lot of money and I could never work another day in my life if I decided to.

You have an advantage over me, in that I was bluepilled up until I was 30. Disregard women, acquire currency.

Goaliej · 2021-02-11T07:49:28+00:00

Job Corps will be opening back up in the near future. It's a free residential program that feeds you and pays you to learn a trade: https://www.jobcorps.gov/

astuteglute · 2021-02-11T07:45:28+00:00

Anything you put efforts into you will see fruits from your labor (good or bad). May not be Anything noticeable in the short term. There's a saying that you have to do something 10,000 times or for 10,000 hours to master something.(40 hr work week, 40x 50 weeks in a year is only 2,000 hrs) so, 5 years fully employed to 'master' something.

Welding programs from companies will pay you to go to Welding schools (18 months around here) and if your lucky and can wrap student loans into the tech college to get a "free dorm" boom housing and cash and a career path with 6 figure pay. Get good grades and get cash to go to school from grants. Full tax returns as a student.

Gogogogogo, make me proud.

hunrein · 2021-02-11T07:52:26+00:00

Apply for jobs continuously. When you don't have jobs to apply for look for gigs on craigslist. You can also find people giving away stuff on craigslist that you might need because they are moving to a different city and can't take it with them. Most of the stuff is low quality, but you can occasionally find some good stuff.

Also if you get a night shift job be sure to use some melatonin which you can get cheap at any vitamin store over the counter. That stuff helps a lot.

When at a job interview make your voice as mellow and unthreatening as possible and come up with a reason why you want the job even if you don't. If you are black this is doubly important.

If you are 18 with few skills one of the easiest starting jobs these days would be a night shift at a gas station that is open 24 hours. Try gas stations on outskirts of town that cater to truckers. You will have some free time to read and work on skills to help you get something better.

Longer term, you should work on getting your GED and then look into trade schools. Some of them even offer financial aid. I wouldn't suggest debt for a 4 year college degree, everyone has one these days, but a little bit of debt for an 18 month trade certification that could add an extra 6-8 dollars per hour to your paycheck is a good investment.

I was homeless before and about 80% of the anger you have right now will fade once you have a job and some path forward. For the remaining 20% I would suggest martial arts, just be careful to pick a good martial arts school, there are a lot of fake martial arts schools out there.

Organic_Principle772 · 2021-02-11T09:23:38+00:00

What state are you in? Are you near a big city? While this may not be a life long career for you, consider car sales. The men in car sales have a soft spot for anyone willing to walk up and ask for what they want/need because that's 90% of sales in a way. Absolute worst case they'll give you a job as a porter or car washer. But I actually think you shouldn't accept that. Tell them "I need a real income to pay for my own apartment, so I need to be in sales." Either they'll give it to you or just go to the next car dealership. It's busy right now at most places. Keep trying and you'll get it in my opinion. Try to wear black pants and a dress shirt. If you can't, flat out tell them you don't have enough money to buy them. If they like you and they hire you, someone there will lend you the money for clothes or bring you some of their old stuff. Also, car dealerships are empty after closing. You can sleep after work. Just stay late and work. And then sleep in a hidden area no one will stumble on you when service opens. You can sleep from 10pm to 6am. Tldr: a shitty car salesman makes $4k a month and will be fired soon. An acceptable one makes $6k a month. Good ones make $10k a month. Amazing hard working ones make $15-20k a month.

TheShadowbyte · 2021-02-11T10:15:18+00:00

First and foremost, I would like you to know that even though me and the other MGTOWs don't personally know you, we care about you and your success and well-being. If nothing else, then at the very least because you can be a MGTOW success story and you can inspire other guys to turn their lives around too. Life was made to be difficult and everyone struggles with something, but perseverance always pays off. There will be pitfalls, lots of failures along the way, but they are there as lessons to be learned, not things to get disappointed by. I know you asked more specifically what to learn and I'll get to that, but I just wanted to point out these things first and highlight the importance of maintaining spirit. Now, as other guys have said, learn IT/web stuff. Begin with HTML, CSS, Javascript, eventually making your way to PHP and server management. Learn a CMS like WordPress, which already uses all those things I mentioned. Start making websites for companies, preferably companies that have money but are not tech-savvy. Then start learning about SEO, social media / online marketing and officially become an online media agency. Also consider moving somewhere where rent is cheap, and it's safe, and yet there are businesses around to pitch your services to. Start making business connections, offer smaller services at first in order to establish that relationship, and as you build trust with them, they will come with projects to you. Feel free to private message me at any time for more guidance. I'm here for you.

Oh, and...don't ever touch drugs or even alcohol. As you age and are more financially stable, maybe a drink in the comfort of your own home, but keep it under control. Intoxicants have a way of slowly creeping up on you, making you reach for them more and more often every time you're upset or want a good time. And don't hang out with drug / alcohol addicts, they will influence you badly and make you like them. Only hang out with other people who wish to better their lives through honest means. Also drug addicts tend to know other, wayy more messed up people which, when you inevitably get acquainted with, are very likely to start exploiting your naive nature. People in general suck, they will pretend to be your friends and then use you. Once again, be VERY careful who you associate with. No one has a sign on their forehead that says "good person" or "bad person".

MyTwoCents101 · 2021-02-11T12:00:50+00:00

Hey. Sorry for the rough start at life. Based on your post, you seem to at least have a decent ability to write in English. That is a surprisingly valuable skill.

I am a freelance writer and there is a lot of money out there for good writers.

If you are interested in doing something like that, hit me up. I can help you get started. It will at least help you get some spending cash to get you though. I can pay you to do some simple writing. I can’t pay a ton, but I can also help show you how to find people to write for that pay much better based on your skills.

Anyway, if you are interested, message me and we can hopefully figure something out.

Since this is the Internet, I feel I should say, this is not some scam. I absolutely won’t ever charge you for anything. As long as you have a computer and are willing to write about very boring topics, I have work for you. I can pay you via PayPal, CashApp, Venmo, or whatever.

Phantom_Spark · 2021-02-11T12:41:27+00:00

Everyone says learn to code, so quickly. But honestly, I would say work with your hands. Start asking for recommendations to programs that can pair you up with people to take on a trade. This might be a good start and if you like it, stick with it. Now if you really want to code, or something else... use this as a springboard to learn other skills. Most important thing is get your hands dirty and put yourself out there to do the jobs that require heavy lifting, manual labor, weird hours or getting dirty.

Figure out what’s important and focus. You’re young. If you do whatever it takes to push forward, you will see some results.

shane-bond · 2021-02-11T09:53:15+00:00

Consider joining Air Force. You will not regret it.

_evokelabs_ · 2021-02-11T11:01:17+00:00

No home, no money, no job, no woman, no family.

This is the freest you will ever be. Enjoy it while you can - you might miss it one day.

thehedgehawg · 2021-02-11T13:30:52+00:00

If you're not afraid of some manual labor, the trades are a great way to go... good pay, a sense of accomplishment, and ( generally ) comraderie with mostly men. There are programs out there, and apprenticeships. You just have to be willing to put in the work and time to build your skill base and your resume.

EjakeJ · 2021-02-11T10:17:29+00:00

All the best to you.

smart_storm26 · 2021-02-11T14:16:01+00:00

Don't lose hope my friend. Even though we don't know you, we are all supporting you. Try to find your first job. It will be really tough but life will get easier after that. Stay strong brother. You got this!

ungodlycollector · 2021-02-11T14:58:35+00:00

I see a lot of practical advice here, and while that is all good and all, i am a firm believer that creating a strong mental foundation is essential to success. 'How' we do something is a extension of 'why' we do, and the 'why' can be tough to answer when we feel abandoned, lost, and alone.

Belief is important. You need to believe that you are meant to be here. Either belief in god or belief in yourself will carry you through; The latter is significantly more difficult. This will help banish doubts, and save time potentially wasted philosophizing about your place in the world.
You are meant to be here because you would have been removed otherwise. Cyclic reasoning, i know, but brush elbows with death a few times, and this knowledge becomes self-evident.

Developing your purpose goes hand-in-hand with defining goals. Goals are practical and important, but a man with a purpose is inevitable; He becomes a force of nature. Knowing your purpose boosts other intangible traits like focus, discipline, and endurance. Share your purpose and strangers will rally behind you once they understand your actions are not whimsical.

Do not whine. Do not complain. The language we use is a heavy influence on how we think. Make a concentrated effort to assess bad situations critically as opposed to wasting time describing these bad situations. However -

Throw a pity party. Once a year. This is the one day you allow yourself to feel sorry for yourself. curl into the fetal position in the middle of isolation and cry your fucking eyeballs out. If you ever begin to feel sorry for yourself on any other day, bank it for it that one day instead. you'll save time and energy and crying is good for you. It is impossible to bottle everything.

a tip about people: if their mouth is moving, then they want something. we only ever communicate because we want. Could be something as small as attention, to be understood, or even because we like listening to ourselves talk. If their mouth is moving, figure out the motivation quickly.

throwawayname6996 · 2021-02-11T09:04:22+00:00

You should consider real estate. It would definitely help if you had a regular 9-5 before getting your license (it takes money to make money), but ultimately you can become your own boss if you put the work in long enough. If you can get a trade, you can make money in multiple ways, and real estate is a great place to start.

silly_birb · 2021-02-11T11:49:27+00:00

Write a clean curriculum of yourself to present and give to workplaces. This will increase the chances of getting a job.

Right now you need to get stability in your life. Once you have it you can plan ways to improve your life further.

eduardkoopman · 2021-02-11T12:25:20+00:00

The Foster care system, ending at 18 abruptly. Is BAD and is disgracefull.

It should have a transition period from 18 to like 21. Where in that period there is providings of basic necesseties, and working towards a situation of that young adult having a place to stay and a means of money to survive.

All the costs for that, they should force to get from the parents. As much as possible. So it's not to much of a financial burden on society.

DubsPackage · 2021-02-11T14:36:13+00:00

First thing you need is income.

If you have a car, sign up for uber or doordash and start making money right away.

If you don't have a car, you'll have to look for work, maybe work in security, if you're luck they will post you somewhere easy so you can read, browse, make plans and work on other stuff.

You can change careers later and work on other stuff, don't worry about it, this is just temporary.

Save up a bit and try to find a room or apartment to rent, then go from there.

thefilthyhermit · 2021-02-11T20:03:38+00:00

Consider joining the military. They will test your IQ and place you in a job commensurate with your smarts, or lack thereof ;)

ActOutside4853 · 2021-02-11T08:48:06+00:00

Sounds like youre lucky to be alive. And you have the beginnings of a good attitude if you can hold onto it and even improve it.

Also know that growing up in tough circumstances makes you able to deal with realities that people who had bucolic childhoods have problems with.

And for having little schooling you write well.

Dont hate, its a dead end trail.

If you've got nothing else to do, you have time to improve yourself via a library, and you can do volunteer work. Might sound crazy, but volunteering is the work that pays the best...

Also, develope good character, ie be honest etc. No matter what.

And if you can find work, build everything up from the bottom with the money. So that any setback even to zero, has you prepared.

And dont worry about race, just have human decency. Being part white is no biggie, I've been white all my life, and its not horrible or anything, the privelege stuff is absolute BS... only thing I ever got for being white, was a sun burn.

For now, just focus on fundamentals, getting something to eat, and a warm dry place to sleep, and being able to keep your clothes clean etc. And the ability to appreciate stuff like that... appreciation is critical to self betterment.

Maybe try a temporary employment svcs. company, those rape you, but its temporary! 😄 if you do good work, often leads to a permanent job.

The temporary employment places also play games and let you go to avoid having to pay certain taxes, so suggest be using more than one. And if youre gonna be outside and cold, would be better to work two jobs, so youre inside more, learn more, and have better security if laid off...

But dont forget the library, most of what is online is garbage in comparison to what went into books.

And if you have nothing better to do, read the encyclopedia... sounds crazy, but few do that, and its like the concentrate of human knowledge. You can learn alot reading encyclopedias....

Anyway... remember the saying: "Attitude is everything."

And you should write more, so you can improve at it, you actually write better than many who were there every day.

If nothing else keep a journal on your laptop.

And I got a chuckle about you knowing we'd give it to you straight...

Dont do drugs man, wastes money that you should use to improve your life, even if its in small ways.

And "good luck".... keep in touch....

MentalStage2 · 2021-02-11T12:05:02+00:00

What state do you live in?

Natriumzyanid · 2021-02-11T14:56:38+00:00

Concentrate on things that stabilize first, like:

Food
a home so that you are safe
electricity / water, a stable surrounding where you can rest

Try to get help from the state or the church, we live in times where everyone wants to be a victim. Thats good for you, cause dont need to be a victim, but you can profit from it. Pour your heart out if you want or need to, take what they can give you - so you can build yourself up from that and give back.

From there on more goals like an education, income, things you like <3

Try to achive small goals, as often as you can, maybe every day if possible

Just want to say I have a good feeling about you, you will make it, hang on man <3

Natriumzyanid · 2021-02-11T15:00:39+00:00

there is love in this thread <3

xdrunkagainx · 2021-02-11T19:21:29+00:00

Look into joining a trade union, you get paid and a free education.

parkan · 2021-02-11T13:12:37+00:00

Try getting some strong personal philosophy, perhaps stuff by Jocko Willink. Check his youtube or books. Then practice it.

You know how people say that time heals all wounds? That's a lie. Mental/emotional wounds do not need time, but a work, check /r/mdmatherapy - people do it solo while using techniques like IFS (Internal Family Systems) - and if you do not want to take drugs, then IFS alone could be helpful, or other techniques.

2021-02-11T13:26:04+00:00

I wish you all the best in all your endeavors. And I know deep down in my heart your life would change so much for the better you'll become an amazing inspirational story

--Reddit-Username2-- · 2021-02-11T13:30:19+00:00

Hang in there man. That’s a tough hand you’ve been dealt, so like Tony LaRussa it’s all about how you play the cards (thanks jay-z).

You need to experience as many varied jobs/responsibilities as possible before you’re 25. Never quit before 6 months as it takes time/effort to hire you and you don’t want to be an asshole as this will keep you from building a network of mentors/helpers. But I would job hop every 6 months until 25. If employers like you, they will make you feel bad..fuck em. This is about improving your life, not theirs, and you are in a hole my man. During this period concentrate on self-care...you are #1 so treat yourself this way. Try new things, do stupid stuff, stay out of jail, and learn from your mistakes. You have a powerful story that will attract exploiters and kind souls to help you alike. Get real good at telling the difference, cut the exploiters out of your life and pull the kind souls closer.

Around 25, reflect on these job experiences, and start settling in to the best job/field that clicked with you and has a future. As SOON as you start that job, start saving for retirement.

Good luck!

pharmd718 · 2021-02-11T15:27:24+00:00

Where are you located?

limbokid117 · 2021-02-11T16:07:03+00:00

learn affiliate marketing, programming takes long time to learn, just promote products for a fee. there are many websites specialize in that, good luck.

BjorkIsAWarCrime · 2021-02-11T16:50:24+00:00

Where are you?

CoinSwapTrader · 2021-02-11T22:45:03+00:00

If you have NO debts and got no kids and no women, you are richer than most people!
I would rather be homeless with no kids and no stress, than be in a big house as a slave serving a woman and the state's child...

Pakten94 · 2021-02-11T23:57:05+00:00

Please never give up ❤️

2021-02-12T03:03:34+00:00

Join the military.

Ok-Collection-8948 · 2021-02-12T05:22:44+00:00

Find meaning for yourself. You are free to pursue anything you want to.

I’d look into learning a trade.

I’m sorry you grew up with that kind of a mother.

anonyree · 2021-02-12T09:15:13+00:00

Ultrasound tech make 40 per hour

4CHANTROLOLOLO · 2021-02-16T11:44:14+00:00

Hey Bro,

I know that feel. Was abused by my mom from infancy. She was a batshit crazy radical feminist, had BPD and I grew up in a faith healing cult so I had never seen a doctor before I was 20. Got health problems too. Went through a period of drug abuse, homelessness, you name it. I get it bro.

Ok, so basics: Food, shelter, hygiene, self-care

Are you set up with EBT/Food stamps? If not - why not? I had a real hard-on when I was a kid not accepting help and it really held me back. One of the biggest things in your position is to BE HUMBLE and ASK FOR HELP. It's probably going to take beating down a lot of doors but I promise - if you don't give up on yourself - you'll get there.

Where to start? AA & Al-anon meetings. Go to every single one you can. Lots of really good no-bullshit people there who get what you're going through. Do NOT start using drugs my dude, no matter what just walk the fuck away from everything even cigarettes. It's not worth it. Talk about what you're going through. Then talk about it some more. Ask for help from the group after the meeting. A lot of times they can help you get into clean and sober living homes. And just keep going to meetings. Three of the greatest men I ever met were all reformed alcoholics who worked the program and created amazing lives for themselves.

Trade Schools: By FAR the best way to earn an education. As a foster kid you *will* get tons of financial aide and you'll come out making more money than most college degree assholes. Welding, carpentry, IT/networking, plumbing, diesel tech. Call your local community college and pick a trade - any trade and kick your own ass at everything you do. Talk to every professor and teacher you have. Ask for them to mentor you privately. Look for any opportunity to gain experience and work with your mentor, make sure when you leave a workspace it's clean and tidy, everything's swept, everything's put away. this is how you stand out from the pack. Volunteer for every additional assignment you can follow through on. Look for places where you can add value to your classmates, housemates and teacher/mentor/sponsor's lives. Go above and beyond on everything. Yes - people will take advantage of that from time to time - that's their bullshit and their karma. Stay focused. Respect is earned, earn their respect.

How do I stay focused? You journal. The world doesn't give 2 fucks about you or your problems. You have to care about you, first. Pissed off that someone did you dirty? Write it down. Pissed off that you fucked up? Write it down. Did a good job at work today? Write it down? Someone you respect give you a compliment? Write it down.

Write down your dreams. Let yourself dream. What do you want to accomplish before you die? Where do you want to travel to? What foods do you want to try? What hobbies do you want to try? Whatever you pick - pick something - ANYTHING - no matter how much your mind freaks out about it and just go for it full tilt. Hold yourself accountable and get a sponsor and someone you can be accountable too.

Finances: I know this seems a million miles away when you're homeless but always save a little something for tomorrow and invest, invest, invest. invest in you. You are important sir and you need to act accordingly. Your dreams are important, you are of infinite value to the universe. Add value to yourself, your immediate surroundings and your people. Paypal has a prepaid debit card you can use for a checking account and to have direct deposits and financial aid from school deposited onto. I'd start there. Then get a credit union account. Save money and buy things in cash. Remember this ratio

10% Discretionary Spending

30% income on housing (this includes electricity water bills, garbage etc)

30% investing/savings

20% Food - toiletries - clothes

10% transportation.

I know this may be hard to start but don't stop working towards this.

Spirituality/Forgiveness: I'm not talking about your mom although it may help but again, this isn't the time. The only reason i bring this up is for YOUR benefit. You have to learn to be kind to YOU. The world can be a cold dark motherfucker - it's up to you to be the light in the darkness. And that can be hard when you're on your own facing some serious shit like you're in. Being pissed at your mom, the world or yourself isn't going to help. You've gotta be a shiny ray of sunshine. The world doesn't like young men and it fucking despises young men with shitty attitudes. You have to stack the deck in your favor in any and every way you can and relentless positively is one way you can do that.
Check out Alan Watts' youtube lectures on meditation and zen. He's one cool cat bro. I love turning people on to him. He saved my life many times

Florence Scoville Shinn has good books, audio on YT too

Napoleon Hill's "Think & Grow Rich" & Dale Carnegie's "How to win friends and influence people" should be at the absolute top of your reading list. Again you can listen free on YT

Check back often and message me any time you need support.
You got this bro.

closer_1 · 2021-02-12T00:45:02+00:00

Join the military.

Title	I'm homeless, 18 and I know you people are going to give it to me straight
Author	lostaf98
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Date	February 11, 2021 7:09 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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