Is MGTOW just doing women a favour?

Appropriate-Grand-30 · 2021-07-11T10:02:39+00:00

You are completely missing the point of MGTOW. It's irrelevant what women want. It's irrelevant whether you are in the top ten percent.its irrelevant if you do well with women or not. You are choosing a life philosophy with extremely simple rules which if followed will greatly increase your chances of happiness and success and eliminate your chances of financial destruction from the court s and government.

It is sometimes funny to say ha ha those women we are sticking it to them. But really as men of character who are individual s going their own way, why bother. You have chosen a life philosophy which is geared towards individual success. If you care what anyone else thinks, maybe it should not be a philosophy that you follow.
I realize that for young men in today's society a sense of identity is nearly impossible to develop with the lack of family structure, a society which declares you as toxic oppressors, and government s which literally enact legislation to enforce this label.

Your identity is important. It is where your intellect lies. Your soul. It determines how you act and react. How you enter a situation and even think. It is the driver that leads you to do and say stupid things, things which are designed for others to see and hear, so they will perceive YOU and your IDENTITY. You in effect put on a show or facade for the world.

The point of all this. Care not at all what women think of you. Care not if you do well with women. You are an individual. Because honestly most of the stupid actions you do are to puff up your character to impress women. Remember play acting is not real

Young men, MGTOW or not. The life philosophies you choose should allow YOU personally to determine your character. Listen and learn from others but do not allow emotionality or society to rule you. Happiness can be yours if you have a solid core character. Otherwise you are at the mercy of others and uncertainty will be your constant companion.

IntroductionNew3421 · 2021-07-11T08:47:43+00:00

I don't think this is accurate. Women want someone to take care of them, pay for everything, listen to all their blabbing. The top 10-20% would not be able to support them all, and would probably be mgtow anyway. They would be left with simps, which they don't want anyway.

Mysterious-Dirt-6506 · 2021-07-11T08:58:47+00:00

No. Women absolutely depend on men to wait around for them after they have had their fun.

We are fucking their whole life plan up

what-day-is-it · 2021-07-11T11:22:59+00:00

When beta male providers cut women out of their life it leaves women in a precarious position when she realises that the top 10% of men don't want her.

The reason women think its easy is because she knows there is always a simp waiting for her when she realises she's doomed and does not qualify for a top 10% man, thus men going their own way will shatter women at the point of this realisation, its a favour to ourselves as men and an ultimate detriment to the useless woman who does not qualify to what she currently believes she should.

RepresentativeAd9177 · 2021-07-11T10:00:06+00:00

Let's get this straight , women want to have simps in their lives they do live in recruit mode .you should have seen that already , every woman has at least someone simping for her.

They want people chasing for her , they would give a dude enough attention just to keep chasing her , no more.

Going mgtow is doing only urself a favour , none else wants u to go mgtow .

Proof-System · 2021-07-11T10:48:07+00:00

Any man that is reasonably personable and doing ok financially that goes MGTOW is a loss to women. There goes a betabux they could have exploited. Yes they can still get banged out occasionally, but who cares.

Lost_Musashi · 2021-07-11T13:30:16+00:00

Interesting perspective. I say it doesn't matter. But I don't think MGTOW do them a favor. Simping is quite important to some women, now that that's gone, the carousel is much more scary, because when you fall, you fall hard.

1st10Amendments · 2021-07-11T15:42:09+00:00

Not all MGTOW come from the “bottom” 80%. There are MGTOW in the top 20 who see the way the wind is blowing, and that they are wanted not for who they are, but for what they have that women can take: good genes for a strong, successful, fierce FEMALE child and the posh lifestyle. Whether these guys are bad boys or good guys is secondary, and in fact women might tend to assume they are the worst simply because “all men are trash” and “all men are potential rapists” and “all men want is a lay and a goodbye.”

The women, moreover, may tend to assume that no matter how great a catch a guy is, “she can do better,” and “she deserves better.” So she’ll take what she can, get the State take the rest, and leave him eating a shit sandwich while she goes off looking for her “Me. Right.” He, of course, will be ecstatic to find her and gladly take in her and her 2.5 illegitimate children.

So, imho, MGTOW may be heavily from the lower 80%, but that’s not all of us.

The women will figure out too late that they themselves were their own worst enemy, not those “potential rapists” they posted pictures of all over their college campus back in their heyday.

Physical-Pie748 · 2021-07-11T13:38:36+00:00

actually no. because even if they want the top alpha males, they cant get them. so if they want marriage/kids they have to settle with average men. but if more and more average men go mgtow, dont marry anymore this will be a rude awakening for many average/below average women in the next 10-20 years. no divorce/no 50% of their money/no family/no kids

Radiant_Cup3809 · 2021-07-11T16:37:52+00:00

MGTOW is understanding that you don't have to be a slave to society and that as a man you can perfectly live in peace and harmony all on your own.

lycanroc-lez-go · 2021-07-11T11:27:56+00:00

The thing is when 80% go MGTOW, the remaining 20% will again be subject to the microscope of women, meaning 80% of those "top tier" men will be disregarded - again.

It never ends.

Going your own way is not dependent on anyone, perhaps it may be secondary effects, but at least for me I don't really care.

TeddyMGTOW · 2021-07-11T10:24:52+00:00

At times they want the top 20..other times they will take anyone. Mgtow is just a path to opt out of the madness...

rishajd81 · 2021-07-11T12:57:29+00:00

The top 10-20% who play them and treat them like crap until eventually and inevitably they want to settle with someone stable from the 90%. I don't know how that 90% going their own way helps them. I think it would only restore the balance eventually

Reddit1984Censorship · 2021-07-11T12:52:16+00:00

Thats fine i dont care how much they benefeit or not i just want them to be as far way from me as possible not a single drop of my blood and sweat will go to them if i can help it.

_Shinjitsu_ · 2021-07-11T20:35:01+00:00

Wait until they are past 35 - crying themselves to sleep, they won't see as much of a favor by then.

omen_tenebris · 2021-07-11T10:57:11+00:00

yeah. the real question is how much of the 20% will go their own way

BackgroundAd4119 · 2021-07-12T01:16:11+00:00

If you actually take care of yourself which 90% of men dont and have a purpose in life you will be on that top 20% anyway.

Most men get complacent. Most men lack purpose. Most men accept the life society tells them they need to be happy. Most men live boring lives.

The reason why men GTOW is not to shove it to women. It's to have focus and time on the things that do being them joy and purpose in life. It's about freedom to make yourself happy, instead of being a source of time, energy and resources so someone else can be secure. It's realising as a man you have value in your own right and having the freedom to enjoy and develop it. Its about having power in your own life instead of being treated as a slave to the female prerogative, taking care of women at the expense of your own successes, time and resources.

If you have goals and aspirations in each area of life and are taking action build that life, you're in a better place than most men (in random order).

Areas to have goals and aspirations

Health and fitness
Physical appearance.
Source of income.
Social life.
Family life (not necessarily kids, maybe brothers, sisters, cousins, parents, etc, people who are your blood)
Hobbies.
etc.

NoSignalCharlie7954 · 2021-07-12T03:41:24+00:00

Yes and no.

There are more women than men, so even with ideal matching there are not enough men for every woman
Not all MGTOW are in the bottom 80%. Some are chads or chad-lites and those are guys that women will see.
It really doesn't matter how it impacts woman. It's not about women. It's about YOU. We do this for us. For our own benefit. ANY other reason is the wrong reason.

TigPlaze · 2021-07-12T12:01:40+00:00

We have men from the top 10 - 20%. They don't identify themselves publicly, but they're here. Notice that there are hugely attractive and rich male actors who either quit getting married or never do it. They won't come out and say it because it would hurt their careers, but they're MGTOW. Also notice the many cases where a woman wants to marry some dude, and he just won't budge. That's MGTOW in action. Some men are MGTOW and don't even know it yet. It was true of me. I had a girlfriend bugging me to marry her, but my gut told me "NO!" Thank goodness. She's now a landwhale/feminist. I almost ended up with her, but instead I'm free to pursue what I want with my life.

Nathaniel66 · 2021-07-12T07:49:04+00:00

They wan't 10-20% of top, but they want attention and benefits from the rest.

Also, looks at wider perspective. Less men need to support women, so they work less (like 2 days a week instead of 5-6) / retire earlier. That means there are less people on the job market: car mechanics, plumbers, electricians- those are critical for women and they can't find one or the prices go crazy high.

There are far more consequences than just dating.

Ok-Collection-8948 · 2021-07-12T00:19:54+00:00

It doesn’t matter but those women lower their standards when they hit the wall so future generations of women will have decidedly worse lives when the bail outs aren’t there for them.

FreeSelf-sufficient · 2021-07-12T02:04:01+00:00

Let them all go after the top 10-20% of men they will be crying that he doesn't get a relationship from him and that guy will be either charged for rape or in jail for not paying child support to 10 different baby momma's.

I feel sorry for the top 20% that get sex easy but all pay for it later.

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Apprehensive-Drop819 · 2021-07-12T06:06:47+00:00

Sometimes you gotta just say "Who cares?".

Worrying about if someone else would benefit from your departure is purely the ego talking.

FPSzero · 2021-07-12T07:04:01+00:00

Agree you don't going MGTOW to get women. You Join to be happy with yourself. it's hard to give up girls. But this seems like OP hasn't yet. That's totally fine, but again it's about men's happiness and has nothing to do with women.

UnearthlyDinosaur · 2021-07-11T19:13:14+00:00

Nope they want attention as much as Chad. Take away the attention and they are broke and starving

SpearWeasel · 2021-07-11T17:59:18+00:00

Not really…. Because the pool of men shrank drastically as a result. They are now all competing for the top guys and will either have to debase themselves even further or live as cat ladies…

scoomr3 · 2021-07-11T16:17:57+00:00

Not all women can have the top 10-20% so it’s not like they get what they want as a group. They just lose any other options.

anon_likes_tendies · 2021-07-11T15:37:32+00:00

u/Sol_Install said it best

RulesRCool4Fools · 2021-07-11T15:18:44+00:00

Li

rnjswnsxor · 2021-07-11T13:25:50+00:00

Nice recruit strategy

No_Point_8751 · 2021-07-11T08:45:46+00:00

Then be in the top 20%

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Title	Is MGTOW just doing women a favour?
Author	Fantom1992
Upvotes	1
Comments	55
Date	July 11, 2021 8:44 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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