Something sexist happened in my school today

LoganDeLuca2004 · 2021-05-05T18:45:04+00:00

Yes it would make more sense. You should complain and have your parents complain as well.

ZS_1171 · 2021-05-05T18:45:33+00:00

But... but only boys can be sexist!!

AdWa11a · 2021-05-05T19:22:55+00:00

In high school (Osborn park) the vast amount of bullying and even crime was done by females and by the black population. However, if you even mentioned this, you would be chastised for either being sexist or racist or both. I don’t think being called either is okay for simply saying that there’s a problem on gender and race lines at the school. However, the only groups that had sex or race based support groups were women and minorities, which, at least at my school, sadly were the groups who caused most problems. It’s fucked up really, because it creates an echo chamber where legitimate criticism is deemed sexism or racism and progress is mitigated because others (typically the white and Asian kids) would get blamed for their problems

MahuManeuver · 2021-05-05T23:42:50+00:00

Some lessons for you, young padawan:

1) most crusades feminists go on are to distract themselves or others from their own glaring issues.

2) women tend to use a lot of relational aggression (which includes character assassination) to bully other women.

3) Title IX technically works for boys and girls. If your school receives any funding from the federal government this can become a Title IX case.

Lice138 · 2021-05-05T20:39:24+00:00

Get ready to hear about a wave of abuse from girls out to get “revenge” for things that didn’t happen to them or anyone they know. This is how the neo Nazis recruit angry young men.

Punder_man · 2021-05-05T21:51:16+00:00

Better be careful with raising objections about this.. otherwise you and all boys in assembly might have to standup and apologize to the women of the school for the actions of men and the fact that you were born male... (HUGE /SARCASIM btw)

But in all seriousness the best way to approach this is to discuss it with the higher ups and ask them to justify how it's not sexism. I would be asking them "If you flipped the genders and it was a boys only meeting" would that be ok? also, how would you deal with claims of sexism coming from women about that?

Also remember that our schools setup boys / men to fail so don't expect much support from your school about this...

Thomaswiththecru · 2021-05-05T21:18:13+00:00

Congrats! You've discovered an issue that extends all the way to legal perceptions of violence between men and women!

mikesteane · 2021-05-05T23:37:58+00:00

I would go to the local media on this one. They will do more good than any official body. Use it as practice for dealing with such matters when you are an adult. The way you present yourself is very important.

SeeBeyond1983 · 2021-05-06T02:47:49+00:00

Lol in my complex, its a pretty good version of my country's broader demographic, one dude speeds around in his audi, weve accosted him for it cos everyones kids play freely.

Dude immediate race card gets pulled, so we approach the black lads to tell him to cool it, hes mixed so its race card again....

Hes gonna meet old school man handling from the entire spectrum shortly, little prick thinks hes clever.

admirableslang · 2021-05-05T20:50:39+00:00

*students mind is controlled by their teachers not government *

Snorumobiru · 2021-05-05T19:24:51+00:00

Good on you for caring about this! I think the best thing to do would be to organize your own anti-bullying meeting for boys. These projects don't appear out of this air, they happen because someone has a passion and commitment. It sounds like you've got the passion! Put together a plan, pass a petition to your friends, and get some teachers on board and you're good to go!

maxyamongus · 2021-05-06T04:31:35+00:00

“But only boys can be sexist!”-feminazis

/s if you can’t tell

Bucketsis · 2021-05-05T19:31:06+00:00

Only girls and women on the meeting? They were probably just performing satanic rituals then. They just pretended that it was something else to keep it a secret.

Ok_Plankton248479 · 2021-05-05T19:41:42+00:00

Yes. And even if they were just going to talk about one type of bullying, then both sides should be there so it can stop. How is it helpful to just have the target hear about bullying if the bully isn't in on hearing how it's wrong to do?

SeeBeyond1983 · 2021-05-06T02:48:52+00:00

Identify as women and pitch up

mhandanna · 2021-05-06T11:34:57+00:00

What country if you dont mind me asking

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2010/sep/01/girls-boys-schools-gender-gap#comments

I am one of the researchers [this is a copy and paste from comments, this is not me] involved in the project that Bonny Hartley is leading. I wanted to say how much I appreciate the interest our work is attracting, and the thoughtful comments on this board. To clarify a few points raised:

- In our first study, we found that girls from Reception (aged 4 or 5) and boys from Year 3 (aged 7 or 8) thought that girls were superior students to boys in every way. This included perceptions of conduct, motivation, achievement, and even intellectual ability. This latter finding surprised us - we find it rather shocking and sad that boys this age have picked up this self-effacing stereotype.- In addition to this stereotype, our first study uncovered what's known as a "meta-stereotype": not only do kids think girls are better students, they believe adults think so, too.- These "meta-stereotypes" are important because previous research has shown that they can be self-fulfilling. Kids can become anxious because they are aware that they are expected to perform badly, on the basis of the social group to which they belong (e.g., race, class, and in this case, gender). This is know as "stereotype threat" . As a result, "experimental groups" of kids who are reminded of such expectations do worse than "control groups" of kids who are not.- Indeed, this is what we found in our second study. Being reminded of the general expectancy that girls will do better harmed boys' performance in SATs-type tests. Notably, it did NOT boost girls' performance. From this, we can provisionally conclude that the stereotypes in question harm boys, academically, without benefitting girls. By implication, undoing or neutralizing these expectations ought (in principle) to help boys, without compromising girls' achievement.- We did NOT examine where these expectations and anxieties come from. We have no data to suggest, for example, that it is teachers' fault. On the contrary, in our experience teachers bend over backwards to be inclusive and fair. Rather, we are inclined to believe that widely shared social stereotypes of gender are more important. Pre-school and out-of-school experiences are likely to be very powerful shapers of gender stereotypes.- Nonetheless, schools are an obvious place to start if we want to break the "spell" of the stereotype that boys are inferior students. One thing that we are beginning to try is simply communicating to boys and girls that we do not expect them to perform differently. (Note: this is not the same thing as telling them that they are the same in any other way, be it culturally or biologically.) In any case we hope our research will stimulate debate and especially creative solutions to the problem that boys seem to be facing.- Note that we would not suggest for a second that stereotypes are the only reason that on average, boys tend to struggle at most age groups and in most subjects, relative to girls. We are just trying to identify one piece in the puzzle.- Also, of course, in some subjects and in some contexts boys go on to do better, as in the highest levels of Nobel/Fields lists. Many (including us, as it happens) would also argue that later in life, men are advantaged relative to women. It's tempting therefore to conclude that the gender gap at school is not a big deal. But our view is that any arbitrary and avoidable limitation on the potential of any group in society ultimately costs us all. It is also our view - a point of value rather than science - that we should not view gender relations as a zero-sum game; that men's underachievement is a kind of victory or compensation for women, for example. And therefore, we find it a problem that although men are over-represented in many fields of excellence, they are also over-represented in the field of academic failure. We hope our research will one day help give boys a lift and therefore help everyone.- That said, we don't claim that our work is ground-breaking - we are simply applying the well-demonstrated concept of "stereotype threat" to try to help understand what's causing boys and girls to perform differently. It's "applied" rather than "pure" research. And certainly, our work says little or nothing about whether girls and boys should be schooled separately, taught in the same way, or by men, and so on.- However, there is one general moral that I hope people take away from our research, as from much of the social psychological research that it follows. Stereotypes (of say race, class, and gender) have a way - myriad ways - of fulfilling themselves. They don't require that parents, teachers, or the media explicitly tell a certain group that certain things are expected of them. Thus we should not conclude from the poor performance, disadvantaged position, bad conduct or even low IQ scores of any group that it is innately or inevitably inferior.

jeff_the_nurse · 2021-05-06T13:08:06+00:00

In my experience, boys have been the primary victims of bullying. That is indeed very sexist.

power_forward87 · 2021-05-06T14:31:28+00:00

Didnt you know? Sexism against males doesn't exist the same way racism against caucasians doesnt exist.

TEL-CFC_boi · 2021-05-06T14:53:51+00:00

This is what gets me. I'm pissed off about sexism anyway, that's a given, but imagine what these young boys' heads are being filled with. It's reinforcing the idea that women are always victims and men are always abusers

They're going to grow up in one of two ways. Either they'll become completely neurotic and self-loathing because they believe themselves to be capable of abuse at any time, or they'll grow up embracing it and becoming mysoginistic shitheads

Vanriel · 2021-05-06T06:42:03+00:00

When I was in school most of the times if a boy had a problem with another guy there would be a shouting match followed by a few punches and it would be fine with.

The girls on the other hand, shaming and verbal abuse was extremely common and would go on for days if not weeks leaving the poor victim ostracized by the rest of her friends and classmates.

ImportantResults · 2021-05-06T16:51:15+00:00

If I were in your school I would print hundreds of flyers with THE FACTS and let them all around.

See if they like that.

And would not stop or submit to threats or anything.

Electronic_Ad_3559 · 2021-05-06T17:56:43+00:00

The funny thing is boys don’t usually bully girls, and vice versa. Although I might be wrong

Eastuss · 2021-05-07T11:40:38+00:00

Boys bully, girls ostracize.

The problem isn't that there isn't a meeting for boys bullied by girls.

The problem is boys on boys and girls on girls bullying is more common and generally not addressed or cared for.

Rev_Irreverent · 2021-05-06T01:36:25+00:00

male bullies bully boys to try to get the girls' attention (possibly because displaying sadistic psychopathic personality traits attract women, but we never know).

Title	Something sexist happened in my school today
Author	Loregamer2076
Upvotes	231
Comments	32
Date	May 5, 2021 6:42 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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