So, I went on r/AskFeminists, and asked what rights exactly women were fighting for. This is the best they could give. They even blooocked me from the suub, so I couldn't rebuttal back.

Tommyjohnnson · 2020-07-10T17:49:20+00:00

I want to see her reaction to the gender wage gap being debunked infront of her face

locks_are_paranoid · 2020-07-10T18:50:02+00:00

I used to work retail, and my female manager wasn't agreeable at all. That already destroys one their points.

Nerfixion · 2020-07-10T23:17:20+00:00

I hear what she is saying, but i think the issue is more about bad leaders rather than society seeing women as bad leaders. What she is talking about happens to men as well. Some people have charisma and when they lead is feels right, some dont. I'm just see it on a person by person thing.

If you're the type of person who goes into a rage because someone disagreed with you, you're a bad leader basically.

Lethn · 2020-07-10T20:14:31+00:00

This is how you trap them, because they don't have any direct points anyway you simply ask them what they really believe about certain issues. Then they often oust themselves for the ridiculous people that they are, it's so damn easy to catch out feminists by asking them for example if they believe in the patriarchy. It is not a moderate position to believe in anti-male conspiracy theorists.

You've revealed more about their mentality when it comes to social issues and so on. They're basically looking to harass and indoctrinate men into behaving a certain way that only they approve of. People who know about feminism of course have known about this for some time now but it's hilarious when you can get them to just come out and admit it.

2020-07-11T01:11:39+00:00

Most women are not usually socially or casually nice. Men don't even usually like their male bosses- it's not secret. This purely in their own minds. Not everyone is going to like you and that has nothing to do with your genitals.

Levantine14 · 2020-07-10T21:05:02+00:00

Women aren't expected to act any certain way more than men are. Feminists are just cry babies. There are plenty of competitive women in positions of power who don't give a shit what people expect them to act like. Men and women are both victim to bullshit expectations, but to think you can "change people's attitudes" to solve this issue is delusional at best. Feminism is a dead ideology with no valid reason for it's existence in 2020

Not to mention that the right to abortion in most western and European countries is impossible to change. That right is set for life now. So I'm not sure what more they want for their "BoDiLy AuTonOmy"

Rockmapper_ · 2020-07-10T17:51:17+00:00

I see where they are coming from and is why that level of "feminism" may be needed, like a safeguard to prevent social stigmas. Although it not necessarily wide spread, it ultimately exists and addressing it is always good. However, it is a utopian view to fully eradicate almost anything.

Lily-in-the-Valley · 2020-07-11T00:17:39+00:00

Ok so they are basically waiting for machines to replace men.

LegendaryEmu1 · 2020-07-11T01:47:07+00:00

Agreeable and pleasing...actually thats a natural thing, women are naturally, without any real outside influence, more agreeable, and it has been noted by lots of people, including Jordan Peterson that women tend to succeed more if they are less agreeable, and he encourages such if they want to succeed. Saying they suffer when they are less agreeable is blatantly false. When people are bad at being in charge their job suffers, many people have tales of the woman boss or whatever who thinks being the boss lets them be a complete ass.

As for abortion and healthcare laws, healthcare, i can understand to a degree, but since women globally use more health services than men(of whom taxes go toward funding), i think restructuring, rather than changing would be better. As for abortion...i mean they're not perfect, but they already give women 100% of the decisions around her pregnancy as is, so i have no fucking clue what you could push for there. I can only guess they think some man in the US of A is keeping them from having abortions whenever they want or something.

goddess_above · 2020-07-11T05:24:09+00:00

What is this "Women" you speak of? You asked a question and I answered, and last time I checked I am only one woman and not all women. Also, I am not the president of women either so I do not speak for all of us.

If you're interested to hear in what I actually have to say please stop twisting my words and listen to what I say and not to what you think I said.

I don't have a whole lot of patience for straw man arguments, especially when they are directed at me, so if anyone has any legit questions just ask me and I will answer as best as I can and only if I can. I do not know everything.

2020-07-11T06:04:37+00:00

There are two kinds of questions on AskFeminists:

Those that are just blowing hot air up their asses. Examples are "Who is the greatest feminist woman you know?" and "How did becoming a feminist help you?" These get highly upvoted and discussed at length.
Those that are actually hard-hitting but get downvoted instantly. These are overwhelmingly responded to with deflections and non-answers.

DontAskWhoBenIs · 2020-07-11T09:32:29+00:00

You got banned for insulting. Also, ur replies are disgusting. Your assuming all women are jerks and being sexist to women. Your also saying fat women are unattractive so, the attractive ones can be bitchy. Wouldn’t the same logic applies to men? The strong ones can be bitchy, while the weak ones are unattractive.

SharedRegime · 2020-07-11T00:27:12+00:00

"we are fighting to change attitudes" well pack up miss because you cant really do that especially not when you keep shouting killallmen.

throwaaaaaaay123 · 2020-07-11T03:41:02+00:00

What she saying is that women are expected to smile and be agreeable and then when they are in charge and act accordingly they seen as aggressive and bitches just because they are assertive. What I take it as.

Ukman_44 · 2020-07-11T18:14:22+00:00

I laughed when I read the point that women are expected to be agreeable - seriously? In my experience the world is full of disagreeable women :-)

solinar · 2020-07-10T19:52:29+00:00

Probably for the best. Not sure exactly what it is that you would like to rebut on that response. Looks like you went there looking for a fight, and were disappointed when you didn't get one.

SBEAST666 · 2020-07-10T23:07:05+00:00

Ya I asked if they believe man haters are true feminists I got banned. A bit defensive

Carebarehair · 2020-07-10T23:57:34+00:00

Next time pretend to be a Muslim - they'll never kick you out. Then you can also tell them how the burka is empowering and you can't wait to see them in one.

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