“Accidental pregnancies are 100% men’s fault”. How would you respond to this?

Darth_Horseman · 2020-02-14T19:36:15+00:00

Women won't shut up about how "Women have sex when they want, men have sex when they can". So if a woman get's pregnant from a guy that ain't worth shit, then it's all her fault, she choose to open her legs to that guy.

_Randy_C · 2020-02-14T19:20:33+00:00

There really isn’t an argument against stupid. My daughter’s mother suggested it was all my fault when we had drunken sex and she’d stopped taking birth control without my knowledge. “You shouldn’t have had sex with me when you were drunk” she said when I made it clear I was unhappy. Neither of us wanted children when we got together but fast forward 10 years and that had changed for her and she took it into her own hands.

2020-02-14T19:50:47+00:00

Implying women have no agency except to be acted upon by men?

Very progressive, very empowering.

Lethn · 2020-02-14T20:25:29+00:00

I guarantee you that the women who bitch about this sort of thing are the exact sort to then complain that men aren't asking them out on dates. Don't be fooled by women on social media who trash talk men and act cocky about it, they're the most insecure of us all, now don't get me wrong. I could go into nuance of these sorts of issues and the accuracy of what they're suggesting but they're no point, they're simply dumping all the responsibility on men and telling them it's men's responsibility to avoid pregnancies and they can fuck whoever they want.

Hence why I call this sort of thing insecure trash talking, this isn't a debate, this is her going "You have to take responsibility for anything that I do and there's nothing you can do about it" to which men will respond with "Okay then" and never approach her.

Cripplenippleripple · 2020-02-14T19:09:06+00:00

Men have two non-permanent ways to prevent child birth. Abstinence and condoms. Women have hundreds of ways

2020-02-14T18:53:01+00:00

I refuse to entertain the notion that women have literally zero agency in sex or procreation. They are not leaves that are blown about by the wind, and they actively make decisions that have repercussions, and thus share responsibility for the results of those decisions.

Absolving women of any and all responsibility for their choices is infantilizing them. I respect women far too much to treat them like minor children.

NAWALT_VADER · 2020-02-14T20:32:19+00:00

If the sex is consensual, then women are equally responsible for all accidental pregnancies. Everyone who can legally consent to sex also consents to the possible results of that sex.

The only way men could be 100% responsible is if women are too immature to be allowed to consent. If that were true, then that would mean women should be restricted in the same way as children. I don't believe this is true. Men are not 100% responsible for accidental pregnancies. I believe women should be held responsible for their own choices too.

Feminists often make some very odd arguments that seem to insult themselves, and women in general. It must be difficult for non-feminist women to tolerate.

HiImANonImus · 2020-02-14T19:33:21+00:00

Um. . . fuck no?

In more detail, "No, they're not. You see, my wife and I were surprised by almost all of our children (that's a fair number) and yet, we were both willing participants in sex."

Greg_W_Allan · 2020-02-14T21:04:30+00:00

If it's accidental it's nobody's fault.

temppa · 2020-02-14T21:33:58+00:00

Woman's body woman's choise, right?

CommitXylenePerverts · 2020-02-14T20:46:39+00:00

Cut life support. Obviously braindead.

temppa · 2020-02-14T21:38:47+00:00

It is women's fault. After all thay can get pregnant just by having artificial fertilization. So there really have no excuses.

babno · 2020-02-14T22:31:10+00:00

So if a woman forgets to take the pill that’s a mans fault? So women are incapable of something so simple as taking a pill without a man holding her hand?

lonewolfhistory · 2020-02-14T22:40:49+00:00

Women have agency.
women have almost all of the birth control methods, men have only three. (And only one is effective)
Women control sex, men control relationships
ever heard of women using sex to entrap a man by poking holes in the condoms? Or better yet, using a used condom to get pregnant (or other more deprived methods.

rahsoft · 2020-02-14T23:41:02+00:00

men can't get pregnant.....

BornFreeWE · 2020-02-14T20:11:30+00:00

"Please explain"

dirtyhairymonster · 2020-02-14T20:26:54+00:00

There are no accidental pregnancies. Or like the meme says. Never put it in the other hole, you might get pregnant.

clinton-dix-pix · 2020-02-14T19:09:41+00:00

“Takes two to tango”

elebrin · 2020-02-14T19:51:14+00:00

Well, 50% men's fault.

Honestly, I think people are way too casual about sex, which really can't be a casual thing. Sex can result in permanent, life changing consequences if it isn't handled in a manner where plans are in place and decisions are made ahead of time. That's the opposite of casual. You can choose to not make decisions and just be risky, but that isn't the mature way to handle it.

It's on everyone to judge if our partners are making good decisions, too.

ron191 · 2020-02-14T22:00:10+00:00

Sounds like Bravo Sierra to me.

Draggonzz · 2020-02-14T22:25:44+00:00

You can't argue with stupid.

Luchadorgreen · 2020-02-14T22:59:09+00:00

It’s a stupid generalization, like saying convicts are criminals. You can be a convict without being a criminal. Likewise, not all pregnancies are men’s fault, and they aren’t usually 100% at fault unless they’re a rapist.

JaggedGreen88 · 2020-02-15T02:01:32+00:00

I would, and have, responded by saying that women need to accept responsibility for their own actions and bodies. If you CHOOSE to have sex YOU are responsible for your OWN contraception. That YOU shouldn't rely on the man and/or condoms to prevent pregnancy. I mean it is simply common sense.

I have also told my straight male friends as well as my cousin to always pack and use ONLY condoms THEY bought and confirm the womans birth control of possible before hand.

Sex is, in my opinion, a two way street and both parties need to be looking both ways before they cross.

Lion_amongst_gods · 2020-02-15T07:16:52+00:00

If accidental pregnancies are 100% men's fault, then planned pregnancies are 100% men's achievements. The society and law should recognise it, especially in welfare, parental benefits, custody and child care. Otherwise I won't agree with your point.
What's an "accidental pregnancy"? It takes 2 to get "unaccidentally" pregnant, and it takes 2 and the same process to get "accidentally" pregnant. Just because you decide not to continue the pregnancy doesn't magically shift the blame to the other person. And if it's a problem with the mode of birth control used, then neither person is to be blamed.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2020-02-15T12:34:33+00:00

That it's the opposite of true?

Accidental pregnancies are kinda a mutual thing unless one partner was lying to the other (which women do sightly more than men).

And unwanted children are 100% women's fault.

Opiumbrella33 · 2020-02-15T15:03:56+00:00

I think that it's asinine.
I think there are some hilarious inconsistencies between what is expected of men and women as far as birth control goes. But that's a dif subject.

Mazzarazzaly · 2020-02-15T23:23:15+00:00

Only females can get pregnant. males can not get pregnant. if a female gets herself pregnant by accident, the accident is hers.

Namkwal · 2020-02-16T21:17:33+00:00

duh. some men say when they are going to cum, specially if its non-reproductive sex. Then the woman decides its okay inside. Now onto female perp-male victim rape.

...

Yeah, im not going to explain it. Far too obvious. Only exception is pegging.

What an easy debunk.

Do they even know that they never should use 100% in statistics?

MilManShow · 2020-02-14T19:40:55+00:00

It's true.

Everybody knows the lil guys just float in. Havent you heard of magic?

Accidental Lock Down.. Thats what it is. The old leg wrap.. The "OFC I took my pill"...

OR, the famous "OFC its yours" thats the best one.. Math says no but you have to "believe".... Like Disney..

Title	“Accidental pregnancies are 100% men’s fault”. How would you respond to this?
Author	username2136
Upvotes	43
Comments	35
Date	February 14, 2020 6:51 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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