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Ultra liberal, feminist University of Delaware Professor Kathy Dettwyler Says Otto Warmbier got what he deserved, cause he's a "rich, white male" who would rape women

MattClark0995

June 23, 2017
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Title Ultra liberal, feminist University of Delaware Professor Kathy Dettwyler Says Otto Warmbier got what he deserved, cause he's a "rich, white male" who would rape women
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Date June 23, 2017 1:46 PM UTC
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Comments

[–]MattClark0995[S] 55 points56 points57 points 9 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

Before Otto's death, I really had no idea how much liberals hated him for no other reason than his race and gender.

This kid (now dead because he was drugged so much he became brain dead) was given 15 years for allegedly tearing down a propaganda poster and some liberal outlets and mouthpieces openly celebrated his jailing. And their entire reason for hating him is this woman's same reason. He's a "rich, white, male" (you can take the word 'rich' out, they hate him because he's a white male).

I don't know how any self-respecting white male could vote for the current Democratic party. 20+ years ago I could understand why, but the SJW left is fanatical and increasing in number. They, at the very least, represent a very strong minority in the liberal party.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So much hate.

[–]dukunt 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So much unfounded hate.

[–]madamson8 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

The conservative party isn't really much better though. Everybody will have things they don't like about their party. The people you see talking like this definitely don't speak for the rest of us.

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

If they're the ones effecting legislation, they are speaking for you.

[+]Nitraus points 9 years ago* [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

That's not really how it works.

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

So people you vote for only count as speaking for you when it goes as you intended?

[–]Nitraus 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Speaking for me and representing a state in congress are two different things. Just because the republicans have majority doesn't mean they are speaking for me. If I disagree with them they are speaking against me.

If I vote for someone and they win, they represent me, and therefore my voice; they speak for me. Only the elected senator/representative speaks for the people who voted for them. The rest will have to wait until the political tide turns and have their voice (opinions) heard.

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Just because the republicans have majority doesn't mean they are speaking for me. If I disagree with them they are speaking against me.

I specifically asked if democrats you voted for spoke for you.

So when democrats you vote for, and who caucus with democrats you would presumably vote for were they in your state/district do these things, how are they not speaking for you?

[–]Nitraus 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I specifically asked if democracy's you voted for spoke for you.

First, you didn't ask that, second yes, but only if they win the election. The same goes for anyone voting republican.

But to expand, technically yes the representative from my district or senator for my state represents my state/district. But since all of my senators and my representative is republican and I'm more left leaning, they don't share the same stances on political issues as I do, hence they don't speak for me. At this point I've mended the definition of "speaking for me" too much so I give up.

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

First, you didn't ask that, second yes, but only if they win the election

So people you vote for only count as speaking for you when it goes as you intended?

But since all of my senators and my representative is republican and I'm more left leaning, they don't share the same stances on political issues as I do, hence they don't speak for me. At this point I've mended the definition of "speaking for me" too much so I give up.

Yet in a democracy, you've conceded to the power of the majority. Further, there is no one on Earth that shares the same stances on everything that you do, other than you. That goes for anyone, so "doesn't speak for me" seems like a way of plausible deniability for culpability in a democracy when things don't go as you intended.

[–]ThatDamnedImp -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That is exactly how it works, buddy. Those are your leaders. You support the party they lead, you support them. That's partisan politics.

You vote Democratic, the Democrats who end up in power are your fault. They represent you. Because you fucking voted for them. Stop trying to weasel out of that. It's the stone cold truth.

[–]Nitraus 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Where the fuck are you getting half of the shit your saying? Why are you so aggressive pal?

[–]MattClark0995[S] 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I disagree. Conservatives are far better for men's issues than Democrats. A few examples, the OCR's anti-male Title IX policies are getting chipped away at by the Trump administration - much to the horror of far left Think Progress.

During the 2012 election, Republicans were the one's who voted against the VAWA legislation during an election year, and were able to briefly stop it only to later cave after enough 'war on women' (the media theme for that year) crying.

Another more recent example is the pro-due process bill in Georgia submitted by a guy (Republican Earl Ehrhart) who was tired of seeing young men's lives destroyed over false allegations. EVERY no vote came from a Democrat, the bill is now dead.

[–]madamson8 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I think that most of the time, you are absolutely right that Republicans are better for men's rights. Not necessarily all the time, as I know a few Republican feminists. I was trying to say it's unfair to say that no self respecting white male would vote Democrat. I agree with the Democratic party on most every issue, with the exception of men's rights.

[–]ThatDamnedImp 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I won't vote for a feminist party no matter how otherwise good they are.

Voting for people who hate you...that's tying your own rope, buddy. I don't care how many things you agree with them on, at the end of the day, they would throw you down a deep dark well if they could get away with it, and they wouldn't think twice about it.

They don't believe in equality, not of any kind. They only believe in pandering to minorities and women, and the biggest way they do that is to blame everything on white men. And the more they do that, the more a 'solution' to this white-man problem will start to sound palatable.

Best to smack them down good and hard right now.

[–]madamson8 -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I dislike the stance that the Republican party takes on all other issues though. Imo, I would be tying a rope around my neck for voting for them. Look at Trump as an example. I think he is way worse than Hillary or Bernie would have been. Obviously, not everyone will feel that way, but I'm not going to vote for someone who doesn't represent me at all. At least I agree with the Democratics on most things.

[–]Badgerz92 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree with the Democratic party on most every issue, with the exception of men's rights.

I'm with you. People on this subreddit sometimes get too wrapped up in gender and forget that there are other issues like the environment or healthcare. And it's not like the Republicans support equality for men either, they just aren't as anti-male as Democrats have become. Trump was against us on a few issues too, like wanting parental leave for mothers but not fathers (even Hillary supported gender-neutral parental leave).

[–]ThatDamnedImp 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure. Vote for people who think you're literally the spawn of satan because they lie about supporting you think sounds nice (that I guarantee that the Democrats will never actually make law, because it doesn't help their campaign donors). See how that goes for you.

[–]IamaspyAMNothing 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Conservatives don't hate me for existing and blame me for all of society's ills

[–]madamson8 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Neither do the majority of democrats. Like I said, those few don't represent all of us.

[–]ThatDamnedImp 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Liberals won't take responsibility for anything, will you?

'Sure, I voted for them. doesn't mean they represent me!'

[–]madamson8 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Saying liberals won't take responsibility for anything is the same thing as say saying all conservatives are fascist. It's simply not true.

[–]ThatDamnedImp 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe not, but liberals hate ME. Conservatives hate people who are not me.

Who am I going to vote for? Because the only thing I really care about is keeping the people who hate me out of power. You can damned sure bet that minorities don't give two shits that the people who they vote for hate me, so why the fuck would I care about them?

I'm not ending up persecuted or in some shit re-education camp just because I wanted to be a 'better man'.

[–]This_is_my_phone_tho 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't buy that he was drugged.

I bet it was an oxygen deprivation chamber.

[–]Lethn 26 points27 points28 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Dettwyler argues that while in North Korea, Warmbier had acted like a “spoiled, naive, arrogant U.S. college student who never had to face the consequences of his actions,” later describing him as having the “typical mindset of a lot of the young, white, rich, clueless males” she teaches.

So there are two things here I've noticed, first, she's clearly describing herself. Like so many of her ilk she has absolutely no self-awareness, the arrogance and ignorance of university students generally is a problem because they really do seem to live in bubbles like this woman. Secondly, if she's the one teaching these people, then isn't it her fucking fault they act like this?

She of course I'm sure will pretend it's their innate 'toxic masculinity' that's causing them to behave like this in other countries but the fact she's such an arrogant halfwit and given her attitude will likely be doing nothing to intellectually challenge her students she will be the one responsible for pumping out the very students she complains about on a regular basis.

Fuck her, bad enough that she attacks a guy who ended up dying in the hands of a dictatorship over a fucking propaganda sign but she's using it as an excuse to attack her male students as well.

I really would encourage any university students to thoroughly boycott these types of morons in response to this sort of behaviour. You are all adults now, remember that, they can't boot you out because you're not willing to listen to their anti-male, anti-white and anti-capitalist propaganda. Just don't show up to these sorts of shit shows, go off and party for an hour or so then go to some real lessons to learn something useful and come back feeling refreshed rather than suicidal.

[–]Badgerz92 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

One thing I noticed is: We have a college professor who is teaching her students that men are the sex that usually gets away with this. Even though all statistics show that the 'pussypass' is real, she still somehow thinks males are the ones used to getting away with things. And she teaches college students

[–]Willingo 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What is pussypass and could you please point to those statistics? I am new here and very openminded

[–]Badgerz92 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

/r/pussypass is a subreddit for cases where women criminals get lighter sentences for being women.

Here are some statistics comparing race and gender.

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If you want to learn about the history of our movement read Uneasy Males: The American Men's Movement 1970-2000. Despite what you've probably heard, the men's rights movement wasn't started by misogynists as a backlash against feminism it was started by feminists who realized that men have issues too.

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[–]HeForeverBleeds 18 points19 points20 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Otto’s behavior is like the ‘white, rich, clueless males’...[who] think nothing of raping drunk girls at frat parties and snorting cocaine, cheating on exams, and threatening professors with physical violence.

She literally knows nothing about this guy except that he went to North Korea and took a sign, and now all of a sudden that must mean he's a rapist who does illegal drugs and threatens violence against people and therefore deserved to die

[–]93re2 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I heard the video alleged to be of him taking the poster doesn't show his face, and some have speculated that it wasn't him in the video at all.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think he confessed though.

Or was he made to "confess"? Could it have been a Korean who took down the poster, and the DPRK government took advantage of this to slander the US?

[–]Triskerai 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

People like that are truly mentally ill. May she live to find peace.

Just kidding. May the North Koreans see her rhetoric and adopt her as one of their own so she can see how much "privilege" Otto Warmbier was feeling as he was slowly beaten and drugged to death.

[–]corpseflower 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Does anyone know what drug they used?

[–]BaileysBaileys 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Oh god, as a woman I'm sorry for this (and as a feminist, too). Jeez, what is wrong with this woman. This poor man died by horrible treatment for something completely harmless, at only 22 years old.

[–]Badgerz92 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

You don't need to apologize for what another woman does, one of the issues MRAs have with feminism is the idea that all men are supposed to be responsible for what other men do. As a feminist... just understand that this professor isn't alone, and you have more than just a few bad apples in your movement. Have you watched The Red Pill yet? A movie about MRAs made by a feminist, who stopped calling herself a feminist after she made the movie. Some feminists like Christina Hoff Sommers have supported us, but a lot of your movement has opposed equality.

[–]BaileysBaileys 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for your kindness. I've been meaning to watch it. The thing is, I'm already an MRA as well (as a feminist my mean area of interest has always been men's rights anyway). I most likely already am advocating for the issues raised in the movie. I've since long been working on points like prohibiting male circumcision, having more male teachers, support for male victims of female abusers, stopping the vilification of men, attention for the higher rate of suicide among men, recently learned here to appreciate more the point that men are more often in more dangerous jobs, etcetera. So I feel like the movie is meant to make me feel bad that I am also a feminist. But I'm just not willing to stand up for men but not for women.

[–]marauderp 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh god, as a woman I'm sorry for this (and as a feminist, too).

Don't apologize. She doesn't speak for you.

[–]Oxman1234 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. That same principle should be applied to all groups. No one should have to apologize for the actions of a few

[–]BaileysBaileys 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you, that is kind. It just feels like I really want to somehow even out what she did. To find some way to undo it and make it right again. To let men know that most women do not hate them for being white male people (as if you even have a choice in the matter...).

[–]fengpi 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What's wrong with her? Ideological thinking in which certain deaths need celebrating. On moral principle.

[–]BaileysBaileys 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, it's interesting for me how an ideology that is so dear to me and helps me to be a better person (for example to work on men's rights), inspires another one to hate. Apparently you can take something and make it reflect your own personality.

[–]fengpi 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

See, the author doesn't look at you and see a person. They see a type and depending upon what type you are, you have a certain moral worth and there is a complex series of modifiers that add or subtract moral worth (Gay? More worth. White? Less worth. White Hispanic? Slightly more worth. Christian? Less worth. HIV positive? More worth, etc.)

It's a complicated moral calculus, akin to a game of gin rummy. And it's way more advanced than the boring, obsolete practice of simply treating everyone the same.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/politics-ideas/otto-warmbier-moral-perversion-and-the-social-justice-left/

“It’s just tough for me to have much sympathy for this guy and his crocodile tears,” said former Comedy Central host Larry Wilmore amid what was billed as a comedic monologue on his now-cancelled show in March 2016. He noted that, according to reporting, Warmbier had committed the “international crime” of poster stealing as part of an initiation into his UVA fraternity. “You’ve got to read the fine print on your American frat bro warranty,” Wilmore noted mockingly. “It says, ‘Frat Bro Privilege not valid in totalitarian dystopias.’”

University of Virginia’s fraternity system is the source of much progressive angst. That angst motivated the serial fabulist Sabrina Rubin Erdely to publish a fictional account of a gang rape initiation system at the frat—a piece that subsequently cost her former publication, Rolling Stone, $1.65 million in damages. “Privilege” is how social-justice advocates describe those who they think should be found guilty under a Rawlsian ideal of distributive justice. So what made Warmbier so deserving of his captivity and mistreatment at the hands of a famously brutal Stalinist regime? Huffington Post blogger La Sha was more direct than Wilmore in March 2016: his heritage. Specifically, his “white male privilege.”

This horrifying zest to attack this young adult, now just another victim of a totalitarian and criminal state, has exposed social justice for what it is: the precise opposite of objective justice. There is no theory of justice, no school of thought that would justify the treatment to which Warmbier was subjected. There was nothing just about his ordeal. Those who would excuse the regime’s conduct, even going so far as to adopt its language (the grave “international crime” of poster theft) have abdicated all moral authority. And for what? The base pleasure of pleasing a mob that lusts for the blood of those with certain characteristics adopted at birth—characteristics they happen to resent. That’s not justice. It’s prejudice.

http://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2017/06/elsewhere-236.html

But the author, Ms Sha, is someone who wants us to believe that being imprisoned in North Korea and sentenced to 15 years in a hard labour camp, for stealing a poster, then suffering extensive and mysterious brain injuries and being left in a persistent vegetative state… is not unlike being a middle-class black journalist who writes for the Huffington Post.

As noted earlier, Ms Sha denounces the nefarious, all-explaining “privilege” of people paler than herself, and does so in terms that suggest a deeply obnoxious personality. The irony being that unpleasant racial attitudes are more likely to be excused and actively indulged – say, with articles in fashionable publications – if the person airing them is, for instance, a black woman with leftist views.

I think a factor in things like this is that it’s difficult to look distinctive and contrarian, and therefore “woke,” if you react as many others will. This matters, quite a lot, if you’re a status-seeking ‘progressive’. And so you have to perform some quite involved contortions and arrive at unconvincing conclusions, regardless of evidence or common decency. (What comes to mind, oddly enough, is a scene from Downton Abbey, in which Violet reminds Mary that contrived callousness can be just as vulgar and unbecoming as theatrical sentiment.)


Perhaps the final kick in Warmbier's corpse courtesy of HuffPo and this 'La Sha' (if ever a name conjured up such a wealth of negative preconceptions so deservedly) character comes from the apparent fact that her original rant defiantly remains on the site.

Worse though is that they've allegedly 'tinkered' with it since his death in an optimistic attempt to portray 'La Sha' as slightly less sadistic than before.....yet crucially haven't acknowledged said revisions. This of course gives the false impression to the unwary that the current article is in fact the original.

....And I don't doubt for one minute that 'La Sha' and HuffPo's editor immodestly regard themselves as anything less than peerlessly liberal, compassionate, tolerant people too. Lovely.

[–]bryanpcox 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

so....he was asking for it...

[–]Shhhhh_its_a_secret 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

*So

[–]fengpi 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

They really are baying for blood.

The facts that 1. the other American captives in NK (political pawns, or hostages essentially) are of Korean descent and 2. lots of NK people (who are also of Korean descent) have been killed within that country's system of arbitrary tyranny, many of which have been very brutal... those facts are too inconvenient due to the fact that they aren't white.

Would it help if we were to tell the SJWs that NK regards black people as being the lowest rung of humanity, has an ideology which is based on maintaining racial purity and denies the Holocaust?

[–]McFeely_Smackup 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Katherine Dettwyler sounds like exactly what I'd expect from a rich, white, Amierican academic, who has never had a "real job" in her life and feels 100% comfortable in saying hate filled and viscous things with zero concern of repercussions while holding others to higher standards than herself.

I wonder what she would say if someone suggested she suffered through breast cancer because it was what she deserved?

[–]ThePigmanAgain 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

viscous

Vicious.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

she looks thick and sticky to me.

[–]RunawayGrain 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Any chance there is a teacher exchange program with North Korea? I think chatty Kathy here would make for an excellent candidate.

[–]Lupinfujiko 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And people wonder why boys are dropping out of school at record rates.

[–]TipTipTopKek-NE 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But he's not White; he's jewish.

[–]heltwig 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't even try (insert sth about privilege and oppression blabla)

[–]ThePigmanAgain 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fire her, i say. Then send her to Syria with an image of the Prophet tattooed on her forehead.

[–]fmlom 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Aren't white males the people feeding women?

[–]UDT22 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah she hated him because he was a rich white boy, just like the Duke Lacrosse players falsely accused of rape. And feminists think "all" white boys are rich. Even if you're struggling to get by, they still think you got it made in the shade.

[–]Folkwolf101 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What she says is beyond hateful. Knowing full well the deep pain Otto's family must be dealing with, right along with sympathetic citizens, she goes for the shock value of tearing into the youth Otto, his grieving parents, and the students in her class: all of them rich, white, male, spoiled kids who are raping young women without ever needing to pay for their crimes. What is she talking about? Who are these students she teaches who are actively raping sorority girls? This professor certainly says more about her own self-hating, white guilt whiteness than anything about her students.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If a guy from the Middle East broke into the White House and tried to steal a flag or a painting, what would we be saying about this person?

[–]Rasalom72 -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

I'm not going to feel sorry for this guy. He was fucking stupid. He went to a fucking country that has zero human rights and did something stupid. He was held responsible for his actions. This is what we want for women as well.

If you do stupid shit, there are consequences. DON'T DO STUPID SHIT.

[+]bosh-head points 9 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Although it was stupid to travel to North Korea, there's no reason to believe he did what he was accused of doing. And please don't tell me that the confession proves it. Do you really think, if he did it, that it was to "harm the work ethic of" the north korean people? No... obviously those were not his words.

[–]Rasalom72 -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't give a flying fuck if he did or didn't do it. My point was, HE WENT SOMEWHERE WITH NO HUMAN RIGHTS.... it's like being shocked that someone who jumps into a live volcano was burned by the HOT MOLTEN MAGMA...

[–]GunOfSod 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Terrible analogy, also give the caps-lock a rest.

[–]alclarkey 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Being stupid is not a capital offense. NK is still guilty AF.

[–]Rasalom72 -5 points-4 points-3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I disagree. If they choose to punish stupidity with death, then, DON'T FUCKING GO TO NORTH KOREA IF YOU'RE FUCKING STUPID.

[–]alclarkey 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Then you belong right next to Kim Jong Un.

[–]Rasalom72 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You want me to help him run a country? Well, I don't know if I'm qualified enough... but sure.. I'll try if he'll have me.. that's a lot of confidence you have in me... I'll try not to let you down.

[–]alclarkey 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In hell, I meant.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

He was indeed fucking stupid and arrogant, but holy fucking shit, how anyone can side with NK is utterly fucking beyond me.

I would legitimately fucking execute people who support the kim regime.

[–]Rasalom72 -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

So you think that you have the rights to dictate your morality on another country? Good for you... why don't you go there and try it and see how far you get.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

If it were up to me, I'd try it with the full force the US, Japanese, and South Korean armies.

[–]Hero_764 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How noble of you to send kids to their death.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

'sending kids to their death' ended slavery.

[–]Hero_764 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Funny how slavery was abolished in other countries without doing this.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not really.

[–]Rasalom72 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Of course you would. You want to impose what you feel is right on others. You sound like a feminist.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you can consult the article for a feminist position on this matter, don't you?

I am not a feminist for precisely the reason that I think the Kim regime should be crushed with military force as soon as possible: I am not a moral relativist.

[–]GunOfSod 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

All kids do stupid things, the frontal cortex is still developing into the mid twenties, it shouldn't be a death sentence.

[–]Rasalom72 -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We don't have a lot of ways to weed people out of the gene pool currently. I consider this to be one of them.

[–]BaileysBaileys 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is what we want for women as well.

I hope not. I hope we want all people to be treated in a just manner, with no excessive punishments, rather than all people being treated equally badly.

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