Dude thinks I'm male because I post here. Stalks me on Reddit. Gaslights. Thought you guys might be amused by this idiot.

Lethn · 2017-04-16T15:55:25+00:00

As I've said tons of times, it's stuff like this that turns people away from feminism most of all, just like blacks voting Republican in America or gays being pro-Trump. It simply can't enter into their heads that a woman would have an interest in men having equal rights, he seems to be having a genuine mental breakdown.

Keep standing up to them, sadly just being a woman and arguing with them does a lot more to stop them than people realise because outsiders see a woman arguing against feminists and can't just dismiss them out of hand.

omegaphallic · 2017-04-16T17:36:53+00:00

Dude seems obsessed with your genitials as if that magically changes the value of your arguement.

espositojoe · 2017-04-16T20:41:00+00:00

I'm so offended by the notion that most men don't want custody of their children. I'm a father who sought and received custody of his sons, and who thanks God their alcoholic mother didn't.

An_Orange_Steel · 2017-04-16T19:55:54+00:00

My favorite part is the idea that I can't possibly really be for men's rights as a female and everything that I could possibly say is invalidated because I'm part of this community on Reddit. As if I'm just drinking the Kool-Aid and therefore don't really believe anything that I'm saying. Therefore I must be a male and inherently flawed, or something. Makes me wonder if he's actually a she or if he's just a moron who hates his own gender. Why can't we all just judge people on their choices instead of their gender? That's my whole argument here. when I see guys on this sub talking about how women are bad, I call them out. It's not about your genitals or your gender or Society. It's about your fucking choices.

CMOS222 · 2017-04-17T06:42:48+00:00

This is fairly easy to understand. Some people just can't wrap their heads around the idea that you can be for gender equal rights, but have serious reservations about, or even be against, feminism.

During the Middle Ages in Western Europe, the Catholic Church asserted an absolute monopoly over how Christians established a relationship with God. Among the secular population, it was taken for granted that the only way to be a good, pious Christian was to be a good Catholic, and follow unquestioningly the dictates of the clergy. To even hint that a person could be a good Christian without following the Church was at some times a crime punishable by death.

Finally, somebody got fed up. A theologian named Martin Luther, basing his reasoning on good scholarship and careful reasoning, rejected the notion that a person could establish their relationship with God only through the Catholic Church. He advanced the novel idea that people could establish a closer relationship with God and the teachings of Jesus through direct examination of both the New Testament and their own conscience.

This is pretty much taken for granted nowadays. Bu it was appallingly heretical by the Catholic hierarchy when it first emerged. They had no way of fitting it into their worldview. It challenged the Church's monopoly over Christian thought. The idea that a person could find their own relationship with the Almighty without the intervention of clergy was anathema. So they branded Protestants as heretics, Satan-worshippers, etc. - as it was the only way they could fit Protestantism within their limited worldview. They were psychologically incapable of of seeing the good points of this argument or understanding that a person could be both a good Christian and a non-Catholic.

The same thing is happening with the challenge to feminism that the men's rights movement presents. The MRM breaks the monopoly in the debate over how gender is 'constructed' and/or how equality is achieved. The MRM posits that men have their own concerns, their own worldviews, their goals and ways of breaking out of gender stereotypes and roles assigned to men, their own take on equality and human rights. That one can be both in favor of human rights for women as well as for men.

This seems to be extremely threatening on an intellectual level to some (not all) people who profess to be feminists. They assume that gender roles, constructs and relationships can only be examined within a framework of feminist thought. Some of them simply don't know how to fit the MRM into their worldview, not realizing – or perhaps, simply not accepting - that it's their worldview that is in need of adjustment. Their discomfort and confusion drives them to search relentlessly for the smallest nugget of evidence to brand MRAs as misogynist, homophobic and racist. In the same way the Protestant challenge drove the Catholic hierarchy to brand all Protestants as in league with the devil.

It's easier that way. There is nothing you have to change in your worldview. Nothing you have to re-think. Nothing that has to change.

The confusion and discomfort is also evident when they make claims like, 'If you want to achieve better rights and conditions for males, you must do it through feminism and by working with feminists.' It's like the Catholic Church saying to Luther, 'If you want to have a closer relationship with God, you must only do it through the Church.'

This person thinks you're a man because they are simply psychologically incapable of understanding the concept that a female can think men's concerns are important, too. So, in their mind, you must be a male.

Grubnar · 2017-04-16T19:53:42+00:00

I do not know who said that "there are no women on the internet, but there is no shortage of idiots!", but I feel like it is at least half-relevent here.

fengpi · 2017-04-16T23:33:28+00:00

Be careful: if you argue too logically, this anti-sexist will accuse you of being a man (p'tui!)

And that will negate everything you say. But not what he says, interestingly.

Imnotmrabut · 2017-04-16T16:49:15+00:00

Dealing with this Nutter - Troll - Ass Wipe is not an MRA issue as only one person is being targeted and not because they are MRA ..... just because the Ass Wipe Troll is an Ass Wipe Troll.

It has all the hallmarks of A #Futrellopath - never a rational question or rational response, just expansion and diversion onto new tracks of Crazy.

... and of course they wouldn't dare do it here. They act out in larger more public venues where they play the role of "The Martyred" - "The Attacked" - The one expressing a view that is then Mobbed. It's all so juvenile run of the mill attention seeking it's hardly worth analysing! It knows where to pick fights to get an attention fix and where to avoid and prevent getting very Publically Spanked and as a below par net brat!

killerbake · 2017-04-16T16:38:05+00:00

I found him. Should be interesting to push his buttons and see what happens.

iongantas · 2017-04-16T18:12:36+00:00

I don't think you're using the term 'gaslights' correctly.

atred · 2017-04-17T04:28:41+00:00

Debating stupid = waste of time. You should have probably responded with at most one word: whatever.

Kuramo · 2017-04-17T09:21:30+00:00

According to that asshole, a woman or a trans-woman couldn't even be MR.

2017-04-17T12:03:02+00:00

"You argue the case, not the man." - Sexist!

Incident-Pit · 2017-04-17T14:08:11+00:00

This is all your fault for not using a handle that explicitly genders you like u/ leredditprincess. If there is one thing that feminist Twitter harassment research has taught me is that women on the internet always explicitly mention their gender in their usernames... /s

Rethgil · 2017-04-17T20:50:01+00:00

I'm really not sure what this has to do with men's rights. Its abuse of a person. But if I faced the same I wouldn't think it valid to post here just because I am MRA. I notice a lot of unusual activity here. Something is a bit fishy.

2017-04-17T08:12:52+00:00

Get this shitpost outta there. No one gives a shit.

Dude thinks I'm male because I post here. Stalks me on Reddit. Gaslights. Thought you guys might be amused by this idiot.

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EDIT - LOL Factor 50 - so many of the Disciples of Futrellism turning up to down vote! Just Shows the levels of DEVOTION that some have to their deity and Cult Leader.