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71% of 1500+ acid attack victims in the UK are men, 26% of victims are in one single immigrant community in London

turiyag

March 16, 2017
198 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/1-500-acid-attacks-recorded-165918301.html
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Title 71% of 1500+ acid attack victims in the UK are men, 26% of victims are in one single immigrant community in London
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turiyag

Upvotes 198
Comments 22
Date March 16, 2017 5:29 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/5zrz0f/71_of_1500_acid_attack_victims_in_the_uk_are_men/
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[–]Meyright 15 points16 points17 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A 2007 literature review analyzed 24 studies in 13 countries over the past 40 years, covering 771 cases.[12] In the cases studied, men were more frequently victims in every country, with the exception of Bangladesh and Taiwan, with a male/female ratio ranging from 0.15:1 in Bangladesh to 6.14:1 in the UK. However, according to the London-based charity Acid Survivors Trust International 60 percent of acid attacks are on women, and acid assaults are grossly under-estimated. In some regions, assaults perpetrated on female victims by males are often driven by the mentality "If I can't have you, no one shall."[48]"

In Bangladesh, throwing acid has been labeled as a "gender crime", as there is a dominance of female victims who are assaulted by males, for the reason of refusing to marry, or refusing sexual advances from male perpetrators[49] In Jamaica, women throwing acid on other women in relation to fights over male partners is a common cause.[49] In the UK, the majority of victims are men, and many of these attacks are related to gang violence.[21]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_throwing#Gender

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[–]Incident-Pit 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But posting there would ban me from r/feminism! Whatever would I do then?

[–]contractor808 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reminds me of cases referenced in The Fraud of Feminism. (vitriol-throwing, or vitriolage, is synonymous with acid attack)

Let us now take the crime of violent assault with attempt to do bodily injury. The following cases will serve as illustrative examples:—From The News of the World, 9th May 1909: A nurse in Belfast sued her lost swain for breach of promise. She obtained £100 damages although it was admitted by her counsel that she had thrown vitriol over the defendant, thereby injuring him, and the defendant had not prosecuted her! Also it was admitted that she had been “carrying on” with another man. From The Morning Leader of 8th July 1905 I have taken the following extraordinary facts as to the varied punishment awarded in cases of vitriol-throwing: That of a woman who threw vitriol over a sergeant at Aldershot, and was sentenced to six months' imprisonment without hard labour while a man who threw it over a woman at Portsmouth was tried and convicted at the Hants Assizes, on 7th July 1905, and sentenced by Mr Justice Bigham to twelve years' penal servitude! As regards the first case it will be observed that, (notwithstanding a crime, which in the case of a man was described by the judge as “cowardly and vile” and meriting twelve years' penal servitude) the woman was rewarded by damages for £100, to be obtained from the very victim whom she had done her best to maim for life (besides being unfaithful to him) and who had generously abstained from prosecuting.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The list of the boroughs makes more sense on a map - the top six are adjacent to each other in East London.

And whatever happened to the good old cosh boys?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

FFS, what is happening to London? I understand that it has had a long history of violence and crime, but you would expect things to get better.

[–]geniice 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They are. Overal levels of violence are down. The drugs trade and poverty though present issues.

[–]rayne117 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Acid burns stole my nose
Leather seared to flesh and bone
My face is whole
My skin is clear

I was only disfigured on the inside
of my mind

Where gruesome scenes appear
And are left to hide near
What I find most dear
A spotless clean mirror

[–]SenorTrumper 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Yaye multiculturalism!

[–]galtthedestroyer 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Don't forget gun control! London is a fantastic example of how gun control reduces violence.

[–]Ibster -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How would a gun help stop an acid attack?

[–]galtthedestroyer 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I have no idea how you possibly drew that conclusion from what I said.

[–]Ibster -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The article is about acid attacks in london, Senortrumper says "yay multiculturalism", you say "Don't forget gun control! London is a fantastic example of how gun control reduces violence.".

Were you no longer commenting on acid attacks?

[–]galtthedestroyer 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Correct. The object of my preposition was violence not acid attacks. My comment was tangencial. The relevance was that people who push multiculturalism over the top are typically the same ones that push for gun control, and both examples cause more problems than they solve. (People clearly find substitutes for guns. )

[–]BoozeBumAddict 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's some badass gang warfare.

[–]rg57 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Didn't know that.

[–]hork23 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

"Globally, roughly 80% of victims tend to women."

Hmm, no source for this. I don't believe it.

"Attacks are often carried out by vengeful men who have had their marriage proposals or sexual advances rebuffed."

Just wrong. As /u/Meyright helpfully provided the wikipedia article which states this, they are talking about Bangladesh only. But the article states it is often referred to as a crime of passion, so what is it really? So the source to this attribution of intent is behind a pay wall,[http://www.burnsjournal.com/article/S0305-4179(06)00164-1/abstract] good luck finding information on your own.

Again, I don't believe much of this shit. Even the wikipedia article is made is such a way that constantly refers to Bangladesh, the supposed worst case scenario, in an effort to make this abuse appear normal and global.

edit: Stupid reddit formatting messing up the source.

[–]turiyag[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not an expert, just saw this on reddit. Maybe men just don't report it and the majority of victims are men everywhere. It certainly feels like an attack the generally is used on women, but maybe I've been misled.

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