I don't like Tradcon MRAs

ozzy5234 · 2017-01-29T00:09:49+00:00

Meh, I don't understand the obsession with labelling people, work with people on the things you agree on, don't on the things you don't, pretty simples.

mikesteane · 2017-01-29T01:11:14+00:00

I think they are prudish, judgmental, trapped in the past bores

Can you give us some examples from this subreddit to show us what you are talking about here, please?

MAGA_For_The_Future · 2017-01-29T10:27:56+00:00

That's so interesting. I'm sure your trophy is in the mail.

xNOM · 2017-01-29T13:06:37+00:00

I don't like Tradcon MRAs

LOL. Not an argument. If you want someplace to discuss your feeeeelings, try /r/socialjustice. You will fit in much better there.

Klytemaestra · 2017-01-29T14:53:35+00:00

And so it starts. A leftist moron tries to tear apart the movement from within, just like feminists/SJWs did to the atheist movement and later to gamers. Look asshole, nobody here wants women to be forced back into the kitchen, so shove your marxist stupidity up your ass.

deathdragon5858 · 2017-01-29T00:01:08+00:00

the fuck is a tradcon?

imnotanmra · 2017-01-29T01:37:14+00:00

Politics is compromise.

Work with the tradcons when they agree with you. Work with the feminists when they are agree with you and work against both when the situation demands.

EricAllonde · 2017-01-29T01:48:09+00:00

I don't understand your issue. If a guy wants to have a traditional marriage, with a stay at home wife who doesn't work and a white picket fence, why shouldn't he? If he can find a woman who agrees then it's all good, nothing to do with you.

Look, we just got done telling the religious conservatives to leave gay people alone, because them being gay and living a different lifestyle doesn't affect religious people's lives in any way. So don't flip things around and say, "Damnit, those tradcons doing their conservative thing offends me and they have to be stopped!". Just live and let live.

perplexedm · 2017-01-29T12:23:35+00:00

I'm a kinky, hooker loving, sex positive, neopagan, socialist, vulgar, who believes in encouraging women to follow any dreams they happen to individually have the appitutude for kind of MRA, so I know they think I'm a disgusting, perverted, communist, lefty and I'm okay with that, because just because we're MRA doesn't really mean we're on the same side most of the time.

Now you are describing yourselves like tumblurinas.

Look feminist groups fight like cats and dogs, Liberal Feminists vs Radical Feminists, Sex Negative Feminists vs Sex Positive Feminists, 1st wave vs 2nd wave vs 3rd wave vs 4the wave. TERFS vs any feminist who isn't an asshole to transpeople, act...

Rare occurrence, they are all in this together. That explains Donna Hylton.

aussietoads · 2017-01-29T01:18:10+00:00

" I know they think I'm a disgusting, perverted, communist, lefty and I'm okay with that"

You forgot "moronic troll".

Deckyleaf · 2017-01-29T15:12:08+00:00

I suppose the reason I dislike TradCon MRAs is that they're quite similar to feminists. Both feminists and TradCons think women are weak, men should help, etc. Both feminists and TradCons are just as dismissive to men's issues and unnapreciative of men's labour.

Feminists are generally rather misandrist, and even misogynist. They assault men with terms like "toxic masculinity", that men are inherently broken, dismiss any troubles men have thanks to gynocentrism and completely disregard the good men do. But of course, women are viewed as whiny children with no agency or intelligence, so much so that they're oppressed by an all-powerful patriarchy that women need to dismantle (with men's help, of course).

TradCons are similar. In my experience they assault men with terms like "faggot" and "beta", even over petty political disagreements. TradCons can be quite misogynistic, such as believing that women are inherently weak. Because of this weakness men must slave away at jobs they probably hate and do all the hard labour, while women get the luxury to stay at home and benefit from that labour (and probably control the purse strings too. Another reason I can't understand male TradCons!). TradCons demand that men support women through marriage, while feminists demand men support women through the state (such as paying for abortions, etc). TradCons also seem to think men are broken, from what I've seen. Instead of being toxically masculine, they are toxically feminine thanks to feminist brainwashing, and need to return to the masculine gender role. While I agree that men have been assaulted with feminist messages, and some men have bought into this due to their empathy, I have never met a feminine male. I also don't think men are so stupid and blind that they'll simply buy into this.

Both feminists and TradCons dismiss and take advantage of male labour. Feminists hate male labour but use it for their own agenda, while TradCons take it as a given. Both are incredibly entitled to male labour.

I think the final reason I dislike both feminists and TradCons is that they completely disregard male and female choice. Feminists hate women who choose to be traditionally feminine and work as housewives or mothers, and they hate men who love these women and choose to fulfill the opposite role. TradCons hate men who choose to be stay at home dads or househusbands and think women who choose to be businesswomen, scientists, etc, are ultra-masculine butches who have completely rejected conservative femininity (from what I've seen, anyhow).

I am a huge believer in choice and think men and women should be free to be as masculine or as feminine as they want, regardless if the role is traditional or not. Both groups disavow this however. I think TradCons and MRAs can work together to get equal rights for men and to help change the narrative that men are somehow evil or dangerous for simply being male, despite all the differences.

omegaphallic · 2017-01-30T00:23:37+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=V2ZLHbbFC6I some sane thoughts from American Atheist.

Title	I don't like Tradcon MRAs
Author	omegaphallic
Upvotes	5
Comments	104
Date	January 28, 2017 11:15 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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