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Presidential candidate defends the rape of a 14 year old boy. Because it's hilarious when women rape boys, right?

emr1028

September 29, 2016
44 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/29/the-daily-show-digs-up-creepy-clip-of-trump-defending-statutory-rape.html
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Title Presidential candidate defends the rape of a 14 year old boy. Because it's hilarious when women rape boys, right?
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emr1028

Upvotes 44
Comments 70
Date September 29, 2016 3:53 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/552u1s/presidential_candidate_defends_the_rape_of_a_14/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/presidential-candidate-defends-the-rape-of-a-14.940771
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[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm not at all surprised trump would say this, but I'm kinda surprised the daily show isn't cancelled.

[–]Pz5 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

As far as I know the only candidate who has ever mentioned anything about men's rights is Gary Anderson. http://libertybuzz.us/story/gary-johnson-will-supports-fathers-rights/2016/08/17/808/

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Gary Anderson

The former Minnesota Vikings kicker?

[–]Pz5 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL! Man Im tired. I meant Gary Johnson.

[–]bigoted_bill 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm a liberal and I hate the show

[–]thrway_1000 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://archive.is/OXijE

[–]TheSummerain 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

I know why some one should not vote for Trump.

And I know why some one should not vote for Clinton.

The problem is I don't know why any one we would vote for either of them.

[–]NUMBERS2357 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because one of them's gonna be President at the end of the day, I might as well have a part in deciding who.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

He may or may not turn out to be scum. She, on the other hand, is already a confirmed scumbag. Who do you want babysitting your kids?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Trump thinks little boys being raped gives them confidence.

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[–]bigoted_bill -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

..... so you are more anti Hillary Clinton then Men's rights? ... you condone this ? this sub is full blast on anyone that would say something like this, yet he he gets a free pass because your political opinion? you are gross and dont belong on this sub.

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[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dat hamster.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

First, 14 is not a little boy. Second, Trump may have thought that ten years ago, but he may since have changed his mind. Third, even if he does think that, it's still a fuck of a lot better than killing half a million Iraqis.

[–]xynomaster 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago* (19 children) | Copy Link

Oh fuck Donald Trump. Of course Hillary defends the same thing with her "gender responsive justice" bullshit. I hate them both. But if Hillary Clinton actually makes an issue out of this I'll probably vote for her.

[–]kainoasmith 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Trump defending statutory rape

Hillary pretending it doesn't exist

[–]EochuBres 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the latter is better. What do you think?

[–]xynomaster 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Except that Clinton has actually put forward a plan for "gender responsive sentencing" that would effectively ruin the (small) chance boy victims have of seeing their rapists punished.

Trump wouldn't actually do anything about his ideas. Clinton is much more dangerous in this regard imo.

[–]EochuBres 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ugh we're so screwed either way

[–]DestructoRama 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Trump uses his discernment, based on what info his "team" gives him (whom he obviously chooses based on their alike political theory/morals)

Hillary uses info given to her for purely political means, so she hires people that may have agendas askew to her own. This is how she runs and defends herself, a narcissistic world-view that blinds her to reality.

The difference I'm trying to draw attention to here is the morals aspect.

Trump, I believe, legitimately aligns himself with what he believes to be righteous and ethical. He hires both men and women, and places priority on their intellect, rather than what they as corporeal beings consist of, and has always appreciated those who work from the bottom up. He's an American entrepreneur.

Hillary has no morals, other than basic liberal talking points, which have been hijacked by a liberal establishment she no longer understands.

I imagine a group of women in their 30's who are well versed in feminist/liberal critical theory are the ones telling her to run on the "racist" shit, because it's exactly the crap I'm forced to read in theory classes at my school, it's a collective hive-mind, and they've become inseparable from the democratic platform.

I think it's less her, and more her political personality trusting her party to have actual points, and being bested by true Americana.

[–]Frodamn 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

First step to solving the problem is acknowledging it imo. So id have to say Trumps view is better, but still bad.

[–]bigoted_bill -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

mental gymnastics... you are defending someone that condones what this sub stands against. you are sick.

[–]Frodamn 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Theres no mental gymnastics when provided with a question where your only answers are 1 and 2 you fucking moron.

And judging my the ACTUAL quote further down in this thread, Trump didnt say anything about defending the rape of the 14 year old boy. SO the fucking original article is mental gymnastics.

[–]Pz5 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I dont think either is better.

[–]EochuBres 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

True. It's not a pretty situation.

Credit to /u/N7Bocchan:

I have to feel sorry for America. You've either got a man who lies to induce fear or a woman who lies to make people calm.

[–]franklindeer -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's tough to say. I think the status quo is that men are never victims of sexual assault. Stating that it exists and that it's okay may at least create some push back whereas sticking with the status quo creates no discussion at all. That said, Trump should not be president.

[–]revenjack 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Hillary for a rapist go free than laughed about it

[–]bigoted_bill 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

better not vote then... unless you can do some mental gymnastics to accept Trump's view on boys being raped.

[–]revenjack 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That's not even what he said....

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[–]revenjack 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No.. I'm saying that's not what Donald even said.. he wasn't ok with it but asked questions, more like well did he start it? Flirt back? Remember asking questions isn't for it.. just trying to get the full story.. dont act like these college feminist who just go by their feelings and then get mad you asked questions

[–]IamRevenJack -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

in my villege is joke........who most fat??? is Trump hed or sequanis cow...is sequanis cow becus trump much stuped!!!! haahaha!!

[–]revenjack -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahaha i get it. I get it.

[–]HeForeverBleeds 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sadly, it's not like this is really all that surprising. Both feminists and traditionalist have a tendency to dismiss male victims especially of female perpetrated sexual abuse, they just have different arguments for it

Feminists will say ridiculous things like female-on-male rape "is only 1% of the rape cases", or that it's not as serious because male privilege or the Patriarchy or men having "so much more power" than women makes it not as dangerous for boys as girls, and that ultimately sexual violence is the result of men and masculinity (e.g. "men can stop rape")

And likewise, traditionalists will say ridiculous things like boys and girl are different because girls don't like sex but boys want to fuck everything that moves, or that women are so weak compared to males than even a grown woman can't coerce a young male into sex. So unfortunately, it's not as if what he says is an uncommon thing to hear from tradcons

[–]KamiNekoSama 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Of course, the point they are attacking is that trump thought she was attractive. Not that he was condoning the rape of a 14 year old but that he is condoning the rape of a 14 year old boy because his rapists was pretty. Fuck these guys.

[–]Unconfidence 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You need some dramamine after doing those mental gymnastics?

[–]DavidByron2 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminist that normally wouldn't give a crap about women raping men, suddenly makes an issue of it (without using gender pronouns) to attack candidate he doesn't like.

[–]jedijackattack1 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

yep so trump says stupid shit while hillary as a layer defends bill from rape accusations by using power money and her law training to get the cases thrown. Bill has had a lot of cases against him as I recall (7 cases. dam son!).

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[–]jedijackattack1 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

yep but at least I know that he is lying while hilary I have no clue on some stuff.

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[–]jedijackattack1 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

bad logic.I mean come on why would you vote for any of the candidates at this point. I just want trump to win to win a bet for $100.

Also at least trump hasn't gotten people killed.

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[–]jedijackattack1 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am here looking at issues that affect men. Not looking for people reporting on someone well all know is a idiot saying dumb shit 14 years ago.

Clinton has had a campaign about how jail is sexist to women. She is openly a feminist so the opposite of a MRA. How could you want her? If you don't want trump then say goodbye to alternative media as clinton said she would shut it down. So all in all I would vote for trump!

[–]ThePigmanAgain 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Meh, the entire article is just more establishment hysteria. Sure, Trump was wrong, but it was ten years ago and he might have changed his mind since. Not to mention, that excusing stat rape may be bad, but it's not as bad as killing half a million Iraqis. Has Mr. Affirmative Action ever attacked Clinton on that?

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[–]ThePigmanAgain 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Try harder.

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[–]revenjack 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sjw on here voting you down but you're right. Fuck at least Trump is sane.

Sjw.. stick and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me..

Miss Piggy lol

[–]rg57 -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Rather, as former boys ourselves, we know that most of this "rape" nonsense is nonsense. There can be no rational discussion of these matters, while the law continues to fly in the face of reality.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I had my first sexual experience at 17 and still wasn't ready and regret it to this day. It did actually have an negative impact on me as well beyond simple regret.

Do not pretend to speak for all, or even most, "former boys".

Everyone is different, and affected by things differently. And your attitude just makes it harder for any boys who didn't enjoy it, or who were negatively affected by sex with [or rape by] an adult, to actually say so and be believed.

There can be no rational discussion on this subject, because of mass projection such as your own.

[–]marauderp 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Do not pretend to speak for all, or even most, "former boys".

That's fine advice, as long as you follow it yourself.

There are a number of teachers that I would have happily and willingly slept with at 14. No, I don't think that every boy (or girl) would necessarily be OK with it. However, I do know that it's not impossible that someone under 18 could enjoy it, and even (gasp!) have it be a positive experience for them.

It really bugs me that statutory rape gets lumped in with straight ol' rape, as our aptly-named friend /u/bigoted_bill seems to have. Statutory rape tries to turn a situation that is inherently a gray area into a black and white issue when it is anything but. It's entirely possible that the kid did want it, yet some people deny him any agency in the situation. It's no different than feminists trying to deny any agency to women.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's fine advice, as long as you follow it yourself.

what a useless thing to say when I already said this in my last comment;

Everyone is different, and affected by things differently.

Bye Felicia. Someone that can't read isn't worth my time.

[–]revenjack 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep

[–]revenjack -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck the daily show.. worst sjw show ever.

[–]HugoBorden -4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

This is all that Trump actually said, back in 2004, according to the article,

“So do you think this 14-year-old kid is scarred forever? He might have put the moves on her. It might have given him confidence, actually”

Does this sound like "defending the rape of a 14 year old boy"? To me, this just sounds like thinking aloud, as he often seems to be doing. He’s an unscripted sort of fellow, also known as a ‘loose cannon’.

I think the corporate media is really scraping the bottom of the barrel in their attacks on Trump. They went and micro-analysed all his interviews from 12 years ago?

[–]whelponry 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The Washington Post has 20 reporters scouring every known source of media and every known affiliated individual with Trump to dig dirt up on him. The MSM in general is scrambling to find any dirt on Trump that they can in the next few weeks. Don't be shocked at these leaps of logic, especially when they are Hillary supporters.

Personally, I don't like any of the major candidates this year, but at least the MSM has openly revealed how totally illegitimate it is. Maybe people will finally start questioning the narratives they peddle subtly in their news stories.

[–]HugoBorden 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Washington Post has 20 reporters scouring every known source of media and every known affiliated individual with Trump to dig dirt up on him.

They didn't find much so far, did they?

... at least the MSM has openly revealed how totally illegitimate it is. Maybe people will finally start questioning the narratives they peddle subtly in their news stories.

MSM behaving like it does seems to be actually helping Trump. And the people are just tuning out. MSM is tanking.

[–]JebberJabber 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, Trump was defending the rape of a 14 year old boy.

So what if, at the time, he wanted it? Or that he thought of himself as the initiator? Or if he really was the initiator? Those are distractions from the central fact -it was rape because she did not have consent.
That is what rape is, that is all that rape is. Lack of consent.
If the victim realises it at the time it hurts them immediately.
If they realise it 5 or 15 years later, it may hurt them then. We know this because it happens, quite often. Trump would claim their injury actually arises from the people who told them they are injured, but that is often not the observed sequence of events.

[–]HugoBorden 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What Trump said was stupid, and I’m not defending him. But it was just an off the cuff remark long time ago.

Meanwhile, look at the larger context. Trump is as non-PC as anyone can be. With his common sense thinking on social issues, he’ll clearly benefit men’s rights if elected. And as to his opponent... need I say more?

[–]Whiskeyjack1989 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What I'm more impressed about is that it took Trump for Noah or anyone from the mainstream media to blow any steam about sexual violence against young men. Right message, wrong reason. That pisses me off the most.

[–]HeForeverBleeds 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Right, the sad thing is that the only reason Hillary supporters/anti-Trumps are bringing this up is to attack him, not because they actually give any shits about boys or men who are raped by women, or really men's issues in general

[–]Whiskeyjack1989 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly right.

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[–]HugoBorden 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This was an off the cuff remark made long ago. So why don't you make an elephant out of it.

Trump has many problems, and I’m not blind to it. It sucks voting for the lesser evil, but that’s where everybody is sitting.

So are you saying that his victory would be bad for men’s rights?

[–]never_said_that 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Remember also that 2004 predates afvm and /r/mensrights.

[–]revenjack 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

True.

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