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Woman twerking her ass on toddler son is "innocent fun"; how would a man twerking his ass on a toddler girl be interpreted?

HeForeverBleeds

July 19, 2016
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Title Woman twerking her ass on toddler son is "innocent fun"; how would a man twerking his ass on a toddler girl be interpreted?
Author

HeForeverBleeds

Upvotes 158
Comments 41
Date July 19, 2016 12:34 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4tkw5p/woman_twerking_her_ass_on_toddler_son_is_innocent/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/woman-twerking-her-ass-on-toddler-son-is-innocent.945269
https://theredarchive.com/post/945269
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Comments

[–]HeForeverBleeds[S] 18 points19 points20 points 10 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

Some say it's innocent fun while others say it's child molestation. One good way to tell the difference is to try this test: envision the exact same scenario, gender swapped. Does a man in his underwear twerking his ass on his toddler daughter still seem like innocent fun to you? If not, then neither should this

[–]franklindeer 18 points19 points20 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'd say that's a bad measure of anything except for double standards. In reality, we probably shouldn't be up in arms over this regardless of the gender of those involved. It's mildly inappropriate for sure, but it's not abuse and while you're totally right, people would be losing their shit if the genders were reversed, it wouldn't make them right.

[–]AcidJiles 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This. The double standard is the issue not the action as with many of similar news stories.

[–]Firearc 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

I'm always for equality in punishment (and yes, if the genders were reversed there would be a 10x bigger uproar and possible punishment for the dad), but in this scenario I completely understand both opinions on the matter. I don't have all the information, none of us do; were just watching a video someone posted online. While it obviously would be interpreted as much worse were the genders switched, this really isn't that bad and here's why I think this:

It truly does seem innocent enough. Who is this affecting negatively? The 3 year old who doesn't understand what he's doing and is simply copying his mom and "dancing"? You could say this is borderline pedophilia, but that's up for debate. If you consider the actual situation, I highly doubt the mother is trying to gain sexual pleasure from this whatsoever (I understand that this isn't the point of us getting up in arms over the video). In reality this is just a mom being a mom, and playing with her son. She wouldn't have posted this video otherwise.

So the point of being up in arms is over the fact that were the genders reversed, this would guaranteed be interpreted as "bad". Besides the point that a dad probably wouldn't be twerking in the first place, IF HE DID twerk in front of his daughter it still wouldn't be for sexual pleasure purposes, he'd be doing it for "fun", and I think it's important to take these things into account before going after someone on the internet for something they did (especially when it didn't hurt anyone except internet people's feelings). A lot of people blindly threw hatred at this woman for being playful with her son, harmlessly I might add, and I just hope that it wouldn't be interpreted as such a heinous, villainous act were the genders reversed, as I personally don't think it would be. In short, people really like to get their panties twisted over the smallest things sometimes, huh?

[–]HeForeverBleeds[S] 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

The 3 year old who doesn't understand what he's doing

That argument could be used for any sexual activity between an adult and an infant/toddler; if she gave him a blow job and he laughed and giggled because he doesn't understand the sexual implications, a person could just as well say "who's being harmed? He doesn't understand and is just laughing because it probably tickles." That "he doesn't understand/he won't remember" argument is a big part of what led to Krystal Harvey getting the sentence she got

Perhaps you think comparing a blow job to this is unjustified, however even though a blow job is more explicit, both a blow job a twerking are intentionally meant to be sexual. Twerking against someone is literally no different than grinding and dry humping; it's a dirty-dance, meant to simulate a sexual act. This isn't "playful" fun like tickling where maybe some people have a fetish for it, but it's not inherently a sexual thing

The child doesn't understand, but that doesn't make the adult woman's behavior any less objectionable; unlike the child, she's an adult who does understand sexual activity and sexual pleasure. You say you highly doubt the mother's gaining sexual pleasure from it, which isn't necessarily a safe assumption. Is your argument that because she posted it on the internet, that must make it innocent? A 38-year-old woman posted a video of her "having sex with" a 13-year-old boy on the internet before; some people really are that stupid

Neither of us know this woman's intentions. You assume she meant it innocently; likewise she could be a pedophile who felt comfortable enough to post it online because she's well aware that if she did so she wouldn't face any real consequences. Do you think female pedophiles aren't aware of society's lack of recognition towards them and don't use this to their advantage?

But of course we can't know her intentions, you can't know that she meant it innocently, all we know for sure that we can judge by are her objective actions, which is litterally a woman in her underwear grinding her ass on a small boy's crotch area. To just assume that the woman didn't mean anything sexual by it is naive

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[–]HeForeverBleeds[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Twerking against someone is an inherently sexual act

[–]masculinistasshole 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It sure is.

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[–]SaiHottari 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

at a bris the boy's penis is taken into the mouth of whoever the guy is that performs the circumcision.

And many call this religiously endorsed pedophilia. Never mind the barbarism of circumcision itself.

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[–]SaiHottari 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link

Twirking was invented as a dance move that insinuates having sex in a cowgirl position. She's doing it to the sexual organs of a child.

Cutting off the foreskin is an act of sexual control... Being performed on a sexual organ... then he puts his mouth around it, just like oral sex. Your doctor will never put his mouth around your penis.

A brief thought experiment:

I mean, if you really want to get down to it, there's no such thing as murder because we're all just glorified meat computers. To "kill" someone is no worse than hitting the off switch on your home PC.

If that statement sounds ridiculous to you, it's because there's more being assigned to an act than the material motions. There's implication, assigned pattern, and emotion. You twirk your kid or suck his dick, you're messed up. It doesn't matter if it's for fun or "medicine". I would feel extremely violated if either of those things were done to me, even if I don't remember them first hand.

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[–]Arby01 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm always for equality in punishment (and yes, if the genders were reversed there would be a 10x bigger uproar and possible punishment for the dad),

yeah. This one sucks. This is pretty much irrelevant to anything and should be ignored. Same as a father rough-housing with a son or daughter - the problem is one is viewed as abusive and the other is cute.

In a sane world, this never rises to be an issue without extenuating circumstances.

We don't live in a sane world. So, let's pillory everyone until some sense of sanity emerges.

[–]I_Am_Ted_Cruz 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No butt should be that close to a child.

[–]Daemonicus -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unless it's to fart on them.

[–]DatAmazingSuperPower 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Teaching a toddler the most prominent slut dance on Earth.

[–]Chavezz13 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The kind of girl that has a kid because her life feels meaningless

[–]Ultramegasaurus 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nothing better than an attention-starved slut for a mother. That boy will have a horrible upbringing.

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[+][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I don't know if it's smelly but that is not a disgusting ass.

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[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

What? That kid knows nothing about sex, why would he consider her an old hag? What is wrong with you? I'm just saying that is not a disgusting ass, it's not disgusting to him or me or anyone else that sees it. How much longer until you're off the sex offender list?

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[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're right. I don't remember when I was 3.

[–]Vaeon 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Like most things in life, I imagine that results will vary.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Brazilian girl humping anything she can get her hands on? Color me shocked!!

[–]rubiklogic 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All out of shocked I'm afraid, we got surprised as a substitute if that's ok. Can I offer you some flabbergasted? We have 50% off on astonished!

[–]girlwriteswhat 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Can't a dude just teabag his kid without getting his ass arrested? What a bunch of killjoys!

[–]masculinistasshole 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

No no no, that's not the same at all! Women Are Wonderful and all men are pervert scum. /s

[–]girlwriteswhat 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Okay, so after my comment I went and looked at the pictures, and I don't think (at least from the pictures) that this is a big deal.

Then again, I don't think a guy helicoptering while yelling "woo woo!" in front of his wife and young kids after getting out of the shower would be a big deal.

I mean, maybe I'm weird, but when my boyfriend pauses a movie to go to the bathroom, and looks at my youngest (he's 13) and says, "by the way, I'm going to fart in your mouth while you sleep tonight. Just FYI," then pees, then comes back and says, "get ready for it...sleep with one eye open..." we all just laugh.

So maybe I'm not the most proper person to be passing judgment...

Edit: a word

[–]masculinistasshole 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That's a cute story. Would that all families were that open about sexuality and stuff! :)

[–]girlwriteswhat 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

We're kind of like a household of teenage boys, to be honest. At least as regards our collective sense of humor. Fart and poop jokes abound, and lots of ribbing.

[–]Vermouth1991 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess the law makers have to err on the side of conservative, in a way.

Some things that appall others might be perfectly normal between consenting people, but if outsiders ~have to~ judge them for it, I guess the proverbial bar of tolernce can't be placed too high.

[–]unklestinky 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Jesus, I hate these editorialized titles.

Brazilian woman is accused of child abuse on Facebook after a video of her twerking with a toddler goes viral - but others say it's just innocent fun

The editorialized headline fails to mention that almost the entire article is discussing that many thought it was abuse and some thought it was "innocent fun." Almost the entire article is devoted to those who consider it abuse.

[–]Prometheus720 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's inappropriate but it's not as fucked up as everyone thinks.

Everyone says to swap the genders, but people flip shit when men do normal things so that's not always the best metric.

[–]Dazz316 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Says the fucking daily mail. Most mother's would find this appalling. Of course s man would get worse treatment but don't think woman think it's hilarious on the whole.

[–]InBaggingArea -5 points-4 points-3 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I think it's time we got over ourselves and stopped being as mean as the femis.

It does look like innocent fun. Does anybody think the baby will be harmed?

And remember, this is the same bastard who regularly sucked her nipples. What kind of pervert is he?

Advisory notice for the irony challenged: the previous sentence was a joke.

According to Freud this little rascal wants to kill his father and marry his mother. Just saying.

Get a grip. Don't be a drip.

[–]DashRiprockIII 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Interesting that the Oedipus complex (that Freud believed happened to five year olds, WTF) was often blamed on the son who was believed to have groomed the mother, when usually it was the mother who grooms and controls the son. So are we seeing the early stages of that here? Who knows. But I think that everyone would agree that Twerking is sexually symbolic.

As female sexuality continues to be lavishly lauded and celebrated, what was once unacceptable is now increasingly becoming more normalised and we are seeing some very weird and creepy female sexuality openly bubbling to the surface. And there are plenty of weird creepy examples. Just think of Mattress girl’s video, or naked protesting and slut walks, or Milo Moire and her mirror box, etc. I am sure there are hundreds of other examples. Some of this female sexuality is really very strange. And it’s done under the cover of ‘innocent fun’ or ‘art’ or ‘protest’ or whatever other normalising excuse they can come up with. I wonder what’s next.

[–]rubiklogic 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There's probably guys who have tried the same thing but got done for indecent exposure, sadly.

[–]DashRiprockIII 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Who knows???

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