A century of feminism has failed us. Women have betrayed men's trust

Lobstermansunion · 2015-10-07T14:28:47+00:00

This website has a series of articles that are about 75% accurate on the issues but then they conclude by telling men to "man up" and marry that unicorn snowflake woman who isn't "like that."

Whether "conservative" or feminist, women will claw tooth and nail to avoid the consequences of their actions and expect men to just fix it for them.

2015-10-07T16:32:28+00:00

She just wants men to return to the plantation and resume catering for women who don't want to work. No thank you -- even the feminist society is a more palatable choice for the man who wants to be an equal, not a tool.

SigmundFloyd76 · 2015-10-07T19:45:48+00:00

Feminists are not going to turn traitor to an ideology which has not only nurtured their careers but determined crucial, life changing, and possibly life destroying, decisions in their private lives. The courage required to recognize their error would not be outweighed by the gain.

MenandBoysareGood · 2015-10-08T02:04:26+00:00

Today feminists control the traffic lights and the road rules, men are only chauffeurs, even when they appear to be in the driver’s seat.

So true....right up to the president. By attributing everything to "patriarchy" they've shut down logical reasoning. By declaring and promoting criticism as politically incorrect they've silence any who would dare talk out.

Demonspawn · 2015-10-07T13:40:31+00:00

This time round it is going to be very much harder. Men trusted us, they served us, they built our houses, fought our battles and they received our respect embodied in patriarchal structures in return. But now they have nothing. What is more they have found out that if they do give us what power they had, we deprive them of their children, we take their resources and we give them nothing, nothing in return. This time round we can’t expect them to do our bidding, as they did for so long. If we want to win back their trust and if we want them to co-operate with us, and I do, we will have to concede some of our independence and be prepared to place some dependence on them.

Perhaps what we've learned is that women can't be trusted with power. Perhaps that's why every successful society made it there by only allowing men in control of society. Perhaps the ultimate lesson from this experiment is that our ancestors were right, that men and women need to be in separate roles for the good of the society.

Or perhaps we will learn none of these things, because being "equal" is more important than success, and we will continue to decline to our own self-destruction.

Lobstermansunion · 2015-10-07T15:29:12+00:00

I diverge from her commentary the minute she starts into the "we have to give men back the decision making power" rhetoric. History is largely male history, definitely, and most modern societies owe a significant debt to male ingenuity and productivity for their current state, but I don't believe for a second that this is because men are x and women are y, natively. For the bulk of our history, women were shut out from many of these roles. Could they have done the job, had they be given the chance? Absolutely.

The number of jobs where it truly matters if you're a woman or a man are vanishingly small. For the most part, we can all do the work without reference to our gender.

So, going back to "what once was" isn't an option anymore, as much as she might want it, but neither is this current track, where women play scorched earth and rise at the blatant expense of men. Hardening into camps and the inevitable hit we'll take on the population as a result, is a real fear, even if this author's choice of solution is a bit nostalgic.

To me, the road forward is to rip open Family Law and rebuild it. As a symbol of egalitarianism, you don't get more fundamental than the family and the law that surrounds it.

Shift to 50/50 at the outset and you send a message to both parties that children are a shared responsibility. Your job doesn't really allow you to take 50/50? Well, tough shit. Negotiate with your ex-wife and sign on the dotted line to shift from 50/50 to some other split, but we're getting your signature indicating that you both agreed to that shift. You want more time with your kids, Mom, than 50/50? Well, tough shit. The world expects you to financially support half of those expenses, so unless you can get Dad to take on a greater proportion of the financial role so you can play house, you're out working. Neither camps will be able to hide behind gender roles and will have to literally sign off on their choices.

Remove alimony, and you make sure every party knows that the benefits of the marriage end when the marriage ends, and that they should conduct themselves accordingly while they are in it. Taking a decade off to solely care for your children while someone else works becomes a risk, now, the way it should be in any egalitarian society. Too many women opted for the Mom role or the housekeeper role because that safety net was there.

Do those two things, and you send a message clear across society that the old days are done, and real adult responsibility is here for all of us.

Then, you tackle the CJS.

2015-10-08T14:07:14+00:00

if we want to win back their trust and if we want them to co-operate with us, and I do, we will have to concede some of our independence and be prepared to place some dependence on them.

No, no, NO! We don't want your "dependence". You can fuck right the hell off, Belinda Brown. Traditionalist woman are no different from feminists.

jagenigma · 2015-10-07T23:38:08+00:00

At first, the cause for feminism was just and led by women who wanted to be treated better by men. But now it's led by ignorance and quotes and women who want to be over men. Feminism is supposed to be about equality, not making men seem like the enemy. It's causing more of a division of sex as opposed to bringing them on an equal playing feild.

Title	A century of feminism has failed us. Women have betrayed men's trust
Author	mankindglobalmedia
Upvotes	193
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Date	October 7, 2015 12:53 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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