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Police fitness test scrapped over concerns it was causing a high failure rate among women applicants.

DropkickMorgan

September 25, 2015
91 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.u.tv/News/2015/09/24/PSNI-scraps-pushpull-test-over-womens-performance-45636
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Title Police fitness test scrapped over concerns it was causing a high failure rate among women applicants.
Author

DropkickMorgan

Upvotes 91
Comments 34
Date September 25, 2015 8:29 AM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3mbarf/police_fitness_test_scrapped_over_concerns_it_was/
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Comments

[–]HAESisAMyth 28 points29 points30 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Bottleneck test intended to weed out weak and infirm scrapped for weeding out weak and infirm"

Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut is particularly apt here

[–]Magnum007 20 points21 points22 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Cop here. This is complete bullshit. But it's ok! Because suspects don't give a fuck if you're a man or a woman & if you're out of shape and you get your ass handed to you because you can't handle a physical altercation, TOO FUCKING BAD FOR YOU.

[–]MomochiKing 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What? you mean criminals actually take effort to catch? You actually have to be physically capable to chase them down? And here I though there we no paraplegic cops because of discrimination. (/s)

[–]ckulp99 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Joe Swanson would like to have a words with you lol

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's a liability to give someone physically inept a loaded gun and send them to crimes in progress.

[–]Magnum007 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

not only physically inept. there's a huge importance to psychological aptitude as well.

[–]Electroverted 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm sure your female teammates aced the "Calling for Backup" test, right?

[–]soulless_ging 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or the "deescalating the situation so we don't need to resort to violence in the first place" test

http://womensenews.org/story/law/150127/more-female-officers-defuse-violent-policing-style

[–]DropkickMorgan[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/officer-whose-jaw-was-broken-by-thug-at-public-event-sues-psni-for-failing-to-protect-her-31562676.html

[–]MagicRocketAssault 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bullshit, criminals ain't like that

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is totally fair because suspects will immediately lay down and give up when confronted by a female officer, 100% of the time.

[–]jvardrake 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It sounds like we need to make resisting arrest - when the officer is female - extra bad.

Maybe it can be some sort of international hate crime against women (the suspect isn't just challenging the rule of law, he's challenging the idea that a woman could enforce it), and whenever it occurs, the UN will get involved?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When the suspect is black AND the officer is female - Extra Extra Bad.

[–]MagicRocketAssault 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You fucking misogynist assholes in this thread make me sick. The only reason women are biologically weaker, is because the Patriarchy made them that way. And preventing women from being cops simply because they literally cannot do the job sufficiently only reinforces the social construct of the problematic institutional harnesses that are suppressing women's basic desires and concordantly...vis-a-vis...I can't, I can't anymore....

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course then it'll be sexist that more women than men get injured in the line of duty...that said, i have to admit I've seen some pretty wildly out of shape cops.

[–]Drinkable_Pig 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I used to do the fitness testing in Ontario for police applicants. The testing standards are not unreasonable here. You have to complete an obstacle course within a certain time limit with a push/pull component. Yes, more women failed than but it was usually due to lack of conditioning or small stature.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah dude. But Canada. How fast are the criminals there

[–]Drinkable_Pig 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Slightly faster than the ones in the states. Hockey legs are strong.

Edit: hockey legs

[–]snipeftw 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm currently doing police testing in Ontario as well, cheers! But skating and running are completely different mechanisms, hockey legs may be strong, but it isn't much benefit to running!

[–]Magnum007 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

the HIIT cardio that skating gives you sure doesn't hurt.

[–]duhmoment 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

“Teaching perhaps a more robust self-defence mechanism where the strength isn’t perhaps so important, but technique could overcome that strength in male and female officers.”

Defense techniques? How is that going to help apprehend a 6'6" 300lb man? I'm sorry but there are lots of jobs for all kinds of people and some jobs that are not for every body type.

[–]chocoboat 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's code for "more people are going to get shot".

[–]Paladin327 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"She only shot that unarmed man because the patriarchy was trying to oppress her!"

[–]DillipFayKick 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

These tests were never controversial when men failed out of them.

[–]PerniciousOne 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just will mean that incompetent female officers will be shooting / tasering / pepper spraying more male suspects because of being unable to properly subdue them. Just means that they will have to have a male officer along with them to babysit and do the "physical" stuff that she is incapable of doing.

It severely lowers the standards, and the views of the other women who were physically able to meet the levels required to be a police officer. Certain jobs require certain skills.

[–]shadowbanned6 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Can someone explain me why we always see male/female pairs of police officers? Or two males. Has anyone ever seen a pair of two female policewomen on a dangerous street?

I wonder why??

Because 2 women would become laughing stock of the criminals. When one man is there, he can do the hard and dangerous jobs. She still can use the radio to call in further help

[–]soulless_ging -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Actually, it's probably because women tend to be better at deescalating violent situations, so both of their jobs become less dangerous.

http://womensenews.org/story/law/150127/more-female-officers-defuse-violent-policing-style

Thanks for the sexist joke, though.

[–]CynicCorvus 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

and when a female officer cant grapple with a suspect and gets her ass handed to her...i wonder what will be said?

[–]DropkickMorgan[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Didn't take long

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/officer-whose-jaw-was-broken-by-thug-at-public-event-sues-psni-for-failing-to-protect-her-31562676.html

[–]CynicCorvus 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

and here i thought i was being over dramatic

[–]garglemesh42 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"A policewoman was seriously injured today in an altercation at the corner 7-11. The robber made off with the contents of the store's cash register. Obviously, this is misogyny of the highest order. This station would like to extend its sympathies to Miss Policewoman for her injuries. Donations to assist in her recovery can be sent to <name of hospital>, addressed to <what's her name>. "

[–]uncommonstupidity 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Female officers just shoot them anyway. So why does it matter if they can run?

[–]soulless_ging -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually, the opposite is true:

http://womensenews.org/story/law/150127/more-female-officers-defuse-violent-policing-style

[–]pnw_diver -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Whats the problem? Crooks wont resist or flee arrest by a female cop ... that would be sexist!

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