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Feminist group claims "false cases of rape" (sic) are "as little as" five in a thousand cases.

actingverystrangely

May 9, 2015
73 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.theline.org.au/myth-buster-violence-against-women#comment-6
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Title Feminist group claims "false cases of rape" (sic) are "as little as" five in a thousand cases.
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actingverystrangely

Upvotes 73
Comments 24
Date May 9, 2015 3:19 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/35d1a7/feminist_group_claims_false_cases_of_rape_sic_are/
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[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I will not destroy it for ten's sake.

Genesis 18:32

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's a shame because the most of the info there is pretty good.

huh? are we reading the same article?

Myth # 8. Women could leave a violent relationship if they really wanted to.

Yep, got that right, a total myth. If you're dating a dude and he turns violent, that's it, you're stuck for life, no going back.

Myth #6. Women need to be more careful if they're out alone or at night.

Any human with half a brain will be more careful in the dark when the lights are out, than in full daylight amongst tons of people. What these retards are discounting is the fact that maybe assaults at night are lower because women have been avoiding walking alone at night.

[–]BlacknOrangeZ 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Myth # 8. Women could leave a violent relationship if they really wanted to.

It's worded poorly (in fact I would go as far as to say it's probably deliberately misleading). If you read the points in the dropdown then they explain it to mean that violent and possessive men are more likely to snap if the women leave. Sounds reasonable. Although you're absolutely right that, especially with their thousands of refuges, pretending women have no option to leave is bullshit.

Myth #6. Women need to be more careful if they're out alone or at night.

I think it's the same thing again. The point is valid but the subheading is very misleading. Reading the expanded information, they were clearly making the point that a lot of violence and sexual assault is committed by someone known to the victim.

So yeah some of the subheadings are sensationalist crap, but it's hard to argue with the info. And remember this is a website about violence against women, and that's ok. We all want that to end too. If it was a website about violence against men I would expect it to be very male-centric instead.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

MYTH #5: Men are violent because they’re poor, working class or un-educated - Few people say that.

No idea why that's all about men, but isn't that more or less accepted? I mean, a lot of people do in fact say that, don't they? We don't blame blacks for doing crimes because they're black, we blame it on how a lot of them are in poverty thus are poor, usually un-educated, etc.

Or am I wrong? I honestly might be, I'm not so sure.

[–]Swiggy 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"By one estimate.."

Weasel tactic especially when they don't even reference who made that estimate or link to it.

Common practice for people who want to manipulate statics. They do this a lot with the wage gap stats too, "One commonly cited number is 76 cents for every dollar..."

[–]actingverystrangely[S] 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

The feminist group "Our Watch" claims in Myth #7 that "By one estimate, the percentage of false cases of rape (including reported and unreported) may be as little as 0.005 percent."

Maybe my maths is wrong, but that equates to one in two hundred rape allegations being false. This is a departure from the normal "2-8%" claim. You can comment at the foot of the page, and I asked them for a source and also to comment if the the recent false allegations in Victoria (in which a girl claimed she was raped by three men) counted as one false allegation or three false allegations?

[–]Hyperlingual 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not really. A percent that happens to be a decimal isn't exactly the same as a percent represented as a decimal. I thought the same doing the math using 1/0.005 at first until I remembered that 100% is equal to 1.0, So 0.005% would be .00005. Meaning they're saying it's 1 in every 20,000.

[–]actingverystrangely[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think they are mathematically challenged. And me ;-)

[–]iainmf 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I make it 0.005% 1 in 20,000.

Violence against women is a massive global problem – and it’s reached a crisis point in Australia.

Bullshit, if Australia is like anywhere else in the west violent crime is going down and the amount of victims of violence is pretty small. There's no crisis.

[–]AcidJiles 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"the amount of victims of violence is pretty small. "

And are mostly men.

[–]Revoran 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Domestic violence is a "crisis" but it hasn't reached a "crisis point". It's not getting worse. However Australia has fallen for feminist (well, not all feminists but some) lies. The white ribbon campaign (mission statement: to end men's violence against women) is massively popular here. Every Australian knows the line "violence against women, Australia says no."

And I would be fine with anti-DV campaigns if they didn't perpetuate the myth that all DV was male-on-female. They ignore male victims and female perps even though government figures show that 1/3 of DV victims are male. We are making a little progress but it's really slow going.

[–]iMADEthis2post 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Funny that about 10% were exonerated by DNA testing, just the ones in prison.

Recently an article made the claim that false allegations where anywhere between 10 and 50% and another study using better testing or something placed it at 40% No citation was given, if anyone here can give me the sources of that I'd be grateful.

I'll tell you now that rape is thrown around so much in Britain that these figures seem to be about right.

I have experienced a false claim of sexual assault or rather a planned attempted at a false allegation, her plan however revolved around her fucking me again and "go to the police with the evidence inside me", like I would ever touch someTHING like that after getting free of IT, she's a stalking piece of shit and has made numerous false allegations in the following years.

I hope her death is slow and painful, she has done things just as disgusting to others, the full story is some Gone Girl level shit which I'd rather not type out again.

[–]Peter_Principle_ 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You might find this article interesting.

http://www.datagoneodd.com/blog/2015/01/25/how-to-lie-and-mislead-with-rape-statistics-part-1/

[–]iMADEthis2post 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cheers I'll look it over tonight.

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They get that by counting every accusation as a definite rape that occurred, doubling or tripling that for all the unreported rapes, then factoring in only those women who were convicted and sent to jail for lying about rape.

Really what they've proven is that we have a problem with convicting false rape accusers.

[–]Revoran 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It should count as 3 false claims, since if one rapist raped 3 women at once it would (and should) count as 3 rapes.

[–]Tmomp 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They must be unhappy to hate and fear half the population like they do.

Luckily the stereotypical ogres they hate and fear exist in their imaginations, projected onto men. I guess they project some stereotypical puritanical damsel onto women, including themselves, blinding them to their hatred.

[–]eDgEIN708 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even if the statistic was accurate, I'll let the Captain field this one.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If it is 1 case, that is 1 case to many. Feminists shouldn't be protecting false accusers in any circumstance. A rape victim can be properly vetted to ensure that he or she is telling the truth.

[–]solaria_mra 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Five in a thousand is way more impressive sounding than one in two hundred.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They used to say 2%. Lesson learned, never get your stats from fanatics.

[–]iNQpsMMlzAR9 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What data-gathering methods are even capable of determining something to that precision? Margin of error usually becomes a concern at much less precise values.

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