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Reaxxion: Men Are Considered Sexist No Matter How They Treat A Woman

desmay

April 28, 2015
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Title Reaxxion: Men Are Considered Sexist No Matter How They Treat A Woman
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desmay

Upvotes 450
Comments 97
Date April 28, 2015 1:09 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
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Comments

[–][deleted] 79 points80 points81 points 11 years ago (50 children) | Copy Link

I have been alive for 3+ decades, and year after year, more things become wrong towards women as long as the action came from a man.

Everything we do is creepy, I have never seen such prejudice from women in regards to a mans intentions, I have never seen so much blame places on a gender for the short coming of other people.

Now in 2015, it's almost to the tipping point where a man can't even ask a woman on a date anymore. The most polite words and gestures can come from a man and he is looked at like he is on a mission to collect panties. Yet women more than I have ever noticed in my life, are complaining about "no good men" left and garbage like that. Why? The reason there are no good men is because there is a growing number of women and feminists who don't want ANY man to be good.

Marriage tends to be a bigger desire and factor in women's lives than men's, and they are getting very very close to painting themselves in a corner. And at the core of it, is shit like in this article. Nothing a man does can be positive anymore, we all have evil intentions, everything we do is somehow meant to undermined women. It's sad to say the least.

[–]stoawayaccount 41 points42 points43 points 11 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link

The worst part is, they're ruining it all for the few of us who don't believe it. Who want to support men. They're turning men into women fearing things, who don't want to marry and have a family. Which sucks because a few of us want that in life. I for one look forward to one day having my husband come home to a home cooked meal and a clean house every night. I like being told I look good, getting cat called gives me a little ego boost on days where I'm feeling down. And I slept with a guy while black out drunk, at a party. He was nice enough to try and make sure I was okay the morning after. While I didn't want anything to do with him, and regretted the choice (it wasn't safe, I wasn't on birth control, and I was not in a good place to be sleeping around) I never once blamed him. I probably was drunk flirting. I probably liked the attention. It was my room, I most likely invited him in. Just because I regretted it, didn't make it rape. The girl like mattress girl give all girls a bad name. /rant

[–]garglemesh42 26 points27 points28 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I'll tell you this: I'm afraid of women. I had a crazy narcissist woman threaten to make false accusations and file a restraining order against me because I dared to go on a date with someone else 2 months after she said she just wanted to be friends. She still tries to message me every few months after we supposedly stopped talking for good.

On our third date she told me "Did you know that if we have sex and I've had even a little bit of alcohol, that could be considered rape?" ...God, I wish I'd paid more attention to that giant red flag.

Believe me, I wish I could bring myself to date again, but women have too much power to royally fuck me over with little to no consequence to themselves for me to seriously consider it.

It doesn't even matter if you, individually, wouldn't abuse that power. The fact that it is there and there's no repercussions for you (other than getting alimony, possibly child support, and a bunch of my stuff) means that you can't be trusted anyway. You could so easily change your mind and ruin a man's life, the risk isn't worth the rewards.

I say that knowing full well that I'm not going to have anybody to grow old or have children with and that I'm going to be just as lonely for the rest of my life as I have been for most of the past 15 years. I'd rather do that than spend my life in jail.

I suppose what I'm saying is, I understand your point - they're ruining it for the few good women. That's important to you, but it still isn't the real tragedy. The real tragedy is what's happening to men and boys: Never getting to see their kids, parental alienation, alimony and child support payments high enough that men can't live off what's left. Discrimination against boys in school Boys being drugged because of "ADD" when they're really just normal kids. Men going to jail for false rape accusations when there's no evidence to back them up. Circumcision (MGM, more properly). The list goes on and on. If you've been here a while, you know what I'm talking about.

For what it's worth, I'm genuinely sorry that it is impacting your future plans negatively. It is mine, too.

If you want to do something about it, get involved. Look at the action opportunities posted here and do something to help when you can. Donate to the few charities that are really trying to help men, but whatever you do, don't just complain about it on the internet. Don't get me wrong, it is a good start, and we're winning over more people every day with nothing more than the facts - but it isn't enough.

Not that I'm blameless here, either. I need to do those things too. :)

[–]stoawayaccount 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I've taken action, or tried to. Ive donated to testicular cancer research and am trying to do my part. I strongly oppose ADHD drugs, for all children, because it's an easy way to fix something that doesn't need to be fixed. Sadly the extent of my helping the cause ends there. I can raise my voice and raise awareness. Stand up when I see the chance, but at this point in my life there's not much else I can do. I wasn't trying to be selfish, and draw the cause away from men, just pointing out how feminists negatively effect women as well. And that it was one of the reason I support the cause.

[–]garglemesh42 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks. I didn't think you were really trying to be selfish. I mean, you're here. You've said you're doing what you can to take action.

I'm certainly not saying you're unwelcome - everyone that comes in with an open mind is welcome here, and that obviously includes you.

You're right, feminists are hurting women, too. I guess I've spent to much time reading mainstream media articles lately, like the ones that say "You know who the real victims of false rape accusations are? Women that have really been raped." Oh, you mean the person that was falsely accused and had their life ruined wasn't the real victim? Of course, making it harder for real rape victims is a pretty shitty thing to do, too! ... Just not quite as shitty as the original malicious attempt to make a person unemployable and miserable for the rest of their lives.

Still, I have one slight quibble over terminology with you:

You say you "support the cause". That's all well and good, but all of us here, we are the cause. At least, we're a part of it. That includes you. Don't believe that your role is restricted to "supporter". To me, that reeks of feminist "ally" bullshit. You know, the word they use for men that support feminist causes, because men can't be full-fledged feminists because of the original sin: having a penis. What a bunch of unnecessarily-divisive bullshit. We're all working toward more or less the same things here. Why would your genitals matter?

Thanks for trying to help :)

[–]stoawayaccount 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks, I'll keep trying to do my part

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I had a crazy narcissist woman threaten to make false accusations and file a restraining order against me because I dared to go on a date with someone else 2 months after she said she just wanted to be friends.

I know all about that. The threats of retaliation and you're almost helpless because they know that people will believe a girl who cries. I wonder if it was the same girl...

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Pretty much, this is basically the Gentleman Argument. A good size chunk of women ruin the nice guy for other women, those who probably deserve a good man, or what have you.

I look at my female friends and even my cousins and such. Ages 18 - about 35. They all want the same thing, they all want a "good man". But in my opinion, they do 2 thing horribly wrong. They see anything a man does as bad, he can't do right no matter what he does. But yet they want to be "swept off their feet, meet a real man" etc etc.

It's an absolute no win situation. A man can not be nice to a woman anymore unless she allows it, and not, they don't allow it. When I first started dating, about 15 years ago, I could hold a door open for a girl, help her carry stuff to her car. It was welcomed, enjoyed and not looked at like creepy. I had confidence to ask for a date (like dinner and putt putt or something) and get an honest reply, usually a simple yeah, why not.

Now, a man can't even offer to carry stuff, so how can he ask for a nice date, to "impress" her. Now he is creepy if he offers help or serves up a compliment, yet the same women want a nice guy to sweep them off their feet. And when I look at the single women I know, i see the same things. They want certain things, but if a man actually does them, it's wrong, creep and borderline evil. And this isn't even addressing how awful many women are towards men when men simply try to just make a friend or get to know someone. Creep shaming, lies, false numbers, stringing men along etc. And yet many wonder why men get so pissy at women.

When you can't win (men) no matter what you do, what is to motivate you to do better when all the signs point towards no matter what you do, you still can't win?

[–]stoawayaccount 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

They're misinformed. They're brain washed. It isn't fair for the rest of us. Hopefully not all men will turn toward the red pill before I get too old.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

*Blue Pill

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Blue+Pill

Taking the easy way out, choosing to ignore the harsh reality and live in blissful ignorance.

"You take the blue pill -- the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe." Morpheus, The Matrix

[–]stoawayaccount 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

I meant /r/theredpill or turning MGTOW Edit:and to or.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ahh. Thanks for clarification.

[–]stoawayaccount 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorry haha my bad

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

theredpill is anything but mgtow

[–]theskepticalidealist 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

/r/RedPill isn't MGTOW

[–]autourbanbot 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here's the Urban Dictionary definition of Blue Pill :


Taking the easy way out, choosing to ignore the harsh reality and live in blissful ignorance.


"You take the blue pill -- the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe." Morpheus, The Matrix


about | flag for glitch | Summon: urbanbot, what is something?

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[–]stoawayaccount 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

It almost makes me not want to have children. Which is sad because my life goal since I was 7 was to be a mom and have great kids. And a good husband. And be happy in our little house with the kids going to soccer (or any sport really), me working part time as a nurse, cooking, cleaning, etc. The whole shibang. Now I worry about bringing boys into the world and having them put up with all this hate. I worry about not finding a man who is not brain washed by femnazis and can stand up for himself. Who will tell me to shut it when I'm wrong, and not have to fear me taking his kids away and ruining his life. I don't want feminists to turn all women into monsters.

[–]Blutarg 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Don't give up on your goals.

[–]stoawayaccount 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha thanks. My goals aren't that important in the great scheme of things though.

[–]Maschalismos 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Believe it or not, there are guys like that too. I'm one. I grew up in the eighties dreaming about what it would be like to be a husband and a dad, to have living, breathing reasons to try my hardest and improve myself.

Thats my biggest beef with feminism -for taking away some of the biggest reasons (for me) to live.

[–]stoawayaccount 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're a rare find now a days. What with MGTOW and then guys who are completely whipped by feminism.

[+][deleted] -9 points-8 points-7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But what you think and feel now do not matter. As soon as you have the loaded gun in your hand and you know you wont be held accountable for using it, you will. You are just advertising yourself here and believing your own lies.

[–]stoawayaccount 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How am I advertising? Maybe you would but not everyone would, just because they wouldn't be held accountable.

[–]8088XT8BIT 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

Agree with what you've said. Just a question ... If you was a man and very aware of what might happen to you - if you were to get married, would you still take the risk? What is in it for men?

1.) Nasty Divorce

2.) Lose the home

3.) Pay Alimony

4.) Pay Child Support (Even if kids are not your offspring)

https://dontmarry.wordpress.com/

https://j4mb.wordpress.com/

https://menshouldntmarry.wordpress.com/

[–]stoawayaccount 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, no. If I was a man I'd be very wary of it. It would have to be with someone I had known for years. And trusted as a person. Someone who had shown me their true selves and really wasn't someone who would betray me.

[–]8088XT8BIT 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Thank You for your reply .. I honestly think that dna paternity testing babies at birth, or during pregnancy would actually strengthen a marriage. (If the wife wasn't deceitful) I can't understand why so many women are against it? A lot of women don't seem to care that paternity means "fatherhood" and having his children with his wife means everything to him. I also understand that some women are ok with paternity testing. Why should men have to pay alimony to ex-wives? Shouldn't they be supporting themselves? This gives ex-wives a free ride.

Great Women On Marriage ... Alas, when people complain of men not marrying (even they who are able), they forget how little women offer in exchange for all they get by marriage. Girls are so seldom taught to be of any use whatever to a man that I am only astonished at the numbers of men who do marry! Many girls do not even try to be agreeable to look at, much less to live with. They forget how numerous they are, and the small absolute need men have of wives; but, nevertheless, men do still marry, and would oftener marry could they find mates – women who are either helpful to them, or amusing, or pleasing to their eye. –The Art of Beauty by Mary Eliza Haweis, published in 1878.

The art of beauty

https://archive.org/details/artofbeauty00hawe

[–]stoawayaccount 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I was raised that women should want to be good wives and mothers, but then again I wasn't born in the states, or raised to believe in Feminism. And that women are oppressed by men.

[–]8088XT8BIT 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ahhh .. ok. Well, the world needs more women like you. :)

[–]stoawayaccount 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The world has a lot of us. The United states does not.

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[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You might think I'm exaggerating, but it is getting to that point

Nope, as a short guy who plays video games, is very social with a childhood sickness that caused me to go bald at about 15, I don't' think you are exaggerating, at all. I go to a bar by my apt pretty regularly, I get called a creep for choosing to go to the same bar. Just a few days ago I was out and said just hello to a girl who is in there rather often too (...irony) and her instant reaction was to call me a creep and blow me off because I am "here too much", even though she can't know this unless she is there often too. I am literally a creep to here for having THE SAME INTERESTS AS HER and saying hello. As for my intentions.. I was just trying to say hello because we are both there often and it's always nice to have someone to talk to. But if she took 15 seconds to get to know anything about me, she would know i'm there with my amazing girlfriend pretty much every time I am there and have no interest in what is in her pants in the slightest of ways

[–]Blutarg 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Are we long-lost twins?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know.. are you handsome as hell?

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

You know, creep walks may be an idea whose time has come. It's time to take back that word just like is being done for slut with slut walks.

[–]Blutarg 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Only instead of acting outrageously like slut walkers do, we just walk around acting normally holding signs that say "creep".

[–]Ultramegasaurus 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"Forgive me for being unattractive"

[–]Blutarg 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Asking for it"

[–]chrispdx 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Everything we do is creepy

There's one save from that: be attractive. Women will give you every pass in the world if you are attractive to them. The creeps are just the guys that aren't wanted.

[–]ry751410 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn. You're right. And that's just really sad.

[–]Clockw0rk 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Amen, brother.

[–]thedoze 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yea just remember if a female instigates a sexual encounter and she regrets it the next day, you are a rapist!?!?!?! because well if you can stare rape, you can emotionally rape too?

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[–]Blutarg 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What are you, queer or something? ;)

[–]SwordfshII 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There are few good men, because there are few good women

[–]Frobenioid 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There are lots of good men, it's just that the female definition of 'good man' is a man who will pamper her, provide for her and worship her.

Fuck that.

[–]TheRealMouseRat 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think people who are having feminism as their career do this polarizing of the genders intentionally. The more polarized the discussion gets, the more hatred there will be, which will keep them with a job for a long time.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That is really close to social terrorism with a fatter bottom line

[–]TheRealMouseRat 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yup

[–]TerriChris 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You have not seen the nonsense that is man bad, women heroic victim mentality until you stand before a Family Court judge when your wife is disagreeable.

[–]stoawayaccount 97 points98 points99 points 11 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

The best part is, if you consider yourself an MRA or even a equalist you suddenly become worse than a man. You are not only sexist against your own gender, but you're also a traitor. I had someone, last night, tell me I was being oppressed because I chose to disagree and say feminists are fighting for female empowerment not equal rights and posting a link to show my point. Apparently I'm so oppressed I can't support my own gender. It's all the white man's fault. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/relationships/10845534/Why-is-it-only-women-who-see-sexism-everywhere.html

[–]Wargame4life 38 points39 points40 points 11 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

its your fault for not clearing your own opinion with the feminist overlords first.

Don't you remember that women are incapable of thinking for themselves only feminists are capable so you need them to tell you what to think.

[–]stoawayaccount 26 points27 points28 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

My bad. How could I for a second think they supported equality and free thinking. Hail Hydra.

[–]Wargame4life 25 points26 points27 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

remember women should remain silent unless they are in complete agreement with feminists.

men should just remain silent even if they do agree with feminists since its offends feminists to think a man could ever understand their "oppression" because they are men.

also women with sexy and attractive toned and healthy physiques have to cover up and wear a burka else they will offend the feminist tumblr whales because its shaming to them

hope that helps

[–]stoawayaccount 17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Great, so the fact that I've been working my ass off to get a bikini bod for the past 4 months means nothing? I can't show it off because I'm oppressing them? Because I put in at least 10 hours of work a week to better myself? These are great tips! Thanks! Maybe the name calling and threats of "I can't be friends with someone who doesn't support all women," and "I am a mother of boys, I can still be feminist and teach them not to rape. No one is oppressing them more than you be a use you're teaching them it's okay to behave that way by supporting men." I kid you not. Both things have been said to me.

[–]thedoze 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

didnt realize you "had" to be a feminist to teach your sons not to rape. learn something new every day. so that implies that if you arent a feminist you are teaching your sons to rape. nice i love that shit logic they have.

[–]stoawayaccount 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, but since when has their logic made sense?

[–]thedoze 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

60 years ago?

[–]stoawayaccount 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fair point. I should have pointed out that the 'their' I'm talking about are 3rd wave fems.

[–]Blutarg 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You can show it off to us!

[–]stoawayaccount 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha I plan on it. Those feminists can go on protesting #bikinibods. I'm going to put my energy into getting it and keeping it. They can keep telling themselves fat is pretty. I'll be over her actually putting the effort into looking good.

[+][deleted] -8 points-7 points-6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahaha, such strawman, so bitter

[–]oneDRTYrusn 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

its your fault for not clearing your own opinion with the feminist overlords first.

Anita Sarkeesian couldn't be reached, she was out promoting zealous ideology to anybody with a few minutes of airtime.

[–]Sasha_ 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You know, that's a really good article you've linked too.

[–]stoawayaccount 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks! :) I can't claim credit. A friend showed me it. I just bookmarked and saved it for later. And found a time to share it.

[–]duglock -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Cultural Marxism in a nutshell. What gets me is the people in this sub that say they are fighting for the MRA cause and turn around and vote far left each chance they get. Reminds me of the slaves that volunteered to fight for the South during the civil war.

[–]TerriChris -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What if told you both parties and most all organizations in western culture have feminists in their ranks and leadership.

[–]Drewbydrew 17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Then never again do I want to hear the often repeated "Chivalry is dead!", because apparently chivalry is just sexism.

Reminds me of the time I was called a misogynistic pig because I offered to carry a large, heavy box for a woman that was no more than 5'2".

[–]garglemesh42 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I've been screamed at for opening the door for myself, then holding it open for the person behind me. Not trying to get there first and hold it open so they could go first, mind - just noticing "hey, someone is behind me, I'll hold the door open", like I do for everyone. Apparently doing that for men is just fine, but doing it for women means I think they can't open the door on their own!

[–]Kronik_NinjaLo 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I just walk through the door first, then stop/slow down to hold it open behind me. That will probably be sexist at some point too.

[–]garglemesh42 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, that's exactly what I did that got me yelled at.

[–]Kronik_NinjaLo 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh jeez. I thought you meant you let people go in front of you. I guess if that's a problem, I'll end up not doing it for anyone.

It's a world of upset people. No matter what you do, someone out there will be offended...

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Chivalry is dead and women killed it.

Edit, I do want to point out that not all women have contributed to the demise of chivalry. Some women, like my lovely SO, actually appreciate it. (See Nancy, I'm not as jaded as you think.)

[–]TheRealMouseRat 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"…benevolent sexism is attractive ideologically for women because they may find it difficult to resist the allure of sexism in such a form."

If you find it "difficult to resist the allure" of something, chances are that something might not be discrimination of you.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Then I guess I won't treat women at all.

[–]TacoNinjaSkills 15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. Drivel like this article is one of the many reasons MGTOW is growing. If I am damned if I do and damned if I don't when interacting with women, then I just won't at all.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Being treated poorly? Sexism.

Being treated well? Sexism.

So, why would I ever give them any attention at all? Why would I get back into a pool of acid with sharks swimming in it? What possible benefit could I get that would merit interacting with them?

If I try to hook up or ask out women I'm stereotyped as just some neanderthal trying to get laid. If I choose not to bother with that massive headache, I'm chastised for being a loser/virgin/neckbeard. I'm demonized if I approach them (since it's apparently impossible for them to lift a finger) and demonized if I stop approaching them. Kobayashi Maru? I'll stay home then, thank you very much.

[–]yelirbear 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also keep in mind there is very little perceived difference between a lack of benevolent sexism and hostile sexism.

[–]WordsNotToLiveBy 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why do we not hear about these people calling out the media for "benevolent sexism?" They don't think it's pandering making the guy always the doofus in commercials? How about in TV shows the guy always does something dumb; while she is always level headed, calm, and there to put him in his place. That's not benevolent sexism?

[–]mcavvacm 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"If you don’t know about “benevolent sexism” then you have probably been guilty of it on a regular basis without even knowing it."

You expect me to read beyond this? Nope. What the bloody hell is benevolent sexism? That's not a thing. Stop making up connotations internet!

[–]the_leander 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

2007, that's the last year I had a relationship with a woman. For a time I was tempted to get back into the game, but I found that the rules had changed and nothing I could do would get me into a relationship that didn't end in me giving a pistol a blowjob.

I've never been more content than the day I said "never again" some years ago.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

2012 for me. Last GF was horribly abusive, isolating, lying, and damn near psychotic (taking SSRIs for "anxiety"). She tried her damnedest to keep me from any friends or family since having any other relationship was a direct threat to ours. No matter what I said or did, she'd find a way to FEEEEEEEL bad/hurt/sad/upset/etc. No matter my reaction or non-reaction, that wasn't right either. She was simply impossible to please.

After being in that for 2 years, I swore them all off. From 20 years of dating and nothing but pain to show for it, the reward is just not worth all that risk.

[–]stoawayaccount 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Not all women are like that, there are still decent women in the world. There's just very few.

[–]the_leander 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Oh I know, the problem is being 5'6", not exactly a handsome guy the pool you're left with means they're up there with unicorns and hen's teeth in terms of rarity. Plenty of undetected BPDs though.

It simply wasn't worth the hassle in the end.

But if you can find someone that makes you happy, you go for it! The world needs more happiness.

[–]stoawayaccount 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Look for someone who's short. As a girl who is 5' men's height was never an issue for me. Everyone was tall. My ex thought he was sjort, but in my eyes he was a giant. If a girl cares about how tall you are, but is a proud size 8 or bigger, run.

[–]the_leander 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I appreciate the thought, really (no, I'm not being sarcastic when I say this, I do truly appreciate what you're trying to do).

I'm 34, my libido these days can best be described as "semi retired", I've taken enough abuse through poor relationships over the years that frankly the idea of going into another one fills me with a kind of dread that's difficult to describe.

I have my books, my internet, I'm currently re-skilling to become a chef which I'm absolutely loving. I have few wants and bother no one.

Ultimately a relationship offers me nothing that I need and precious little of what I want with risk factors attached at every point that make it a waste of time, especially with my luck.

I'm content with what I have and looking forward to what comes next in terms of the cooking. But thanks!

[–]stoawayaccount 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's good. Happiness is key. That's what everyone is shooting for in life right? If you found something that make you happy stick with it and never give it up. I'm glad people can still find a way to be in this fucked up world we live in.

[–]caius_iulius_caesar 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some of the shortest girls are the most preoccupied with getting tall guys in my experience.

[–]snarkymcthrowaway 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Very few. Too few for the guys who go MGTOW to be bothered anymore. The math simply makes it an unacceptable risk.

[–]8088XT8BIT 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly .. Women instigate 72% of the divorces now. 50+ percent of marriages end in divorce. They get the house and everything. They get alimony and child support. Men still have to pay even thought they find out that they are not the biological father of the kid / kids. Men get a kick in the ass out the door with nothing. All they get is Court orders to Pay / Reward the ex-wife.

[–]stoawayaccount 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Which is a shame, because I'm sure those guys were probably some of the best ones.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not all women are like that

It's shortened to NAWALT.

[–]AustNerevar 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Replace women with people and I'll agree. There are few decent people in the world.

[–]ramot1 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

God, I am so tired of this type of thinking that I don't even try to date anymore. Women, you are sure nice to look at, but a lot of work for no reward 9/10 times.

[–]chrispdx 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Pussy Pass" revoked.

[–]ArcadeGoon 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

More evidence to support not listening to women.

If they act like children, then treat them as such.

[–]redskinsnation123 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

…opening a car door for a woman may reflect simple politeness that would be extended to anyone; however, it could also reflect benevolent sexist attitudes if the man does it because of his assumption that men are more competent than women and that women should be pampered or protected by men, and his action may, in his subjective opinion, be positive and not at all sexist in the traditional sense

I guess I'm not holding the door open anymore

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