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Penis monitoring to be a thing now. Not satire.

BlueAmethyst

April 11, 2015
44 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.theneworleansadvocate.com/news/12065745-148/exclusive-penile-plethysmograph-test-to
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Title Penis monitoring to be a thing now. Not satire.
Author

BlueAmethyst

Upvotes 44
Comments 57
Date April 11, 2015 5:00 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/328ulh/penis_monitoring_to_be_a_thing_now_not_satire/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/penis-monitoring-to-be-a-thing-now-not-satire.983318
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Comments

[–]G-O 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

so, clockwork orange conditioning?

[–]dangerousopinions 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Okay, while this is stupid and a little inhumane, he's not served his full sentence. He's on parole. They can restrict his freedom in any number of ways.

In California exactly the same thing happens except it happens within the confines of a psuedo scientific institution after inmates have served their full prison sentence. I mean, do what you will to sex offenders I guess, but you have to at least comply with the constitution and respect the basic rights of the person in question. If you want to extend sentencing to include institutionalization post-prison, write it into law. Don't force someone who has served their court mandated sentence into an institution against their will, illegally.

[–]Throwawayingaccount 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Okay, while this is stupid and a little inhumane, he's not served his full sentence. He's on parole.

The eighth ammendment reads

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Utilizing methods similar to that of gay conversion camps to attempt to change what someone is aroused to, I believe qualifies as both cruel and unusual.

[–]dangerousopinions 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't disagree, but this is something for higher courts to decide. I would consider it cruel and unusual and excessive, but these issues almost always have to be tested in court. The 8th amendment doesn't prevent death sentences being imposed, this is what the supreme court has decided. In this case, this will also have to be decided by the courts.

[–]Endless_Summer 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, he raped women in different states across the country. Of course he will be rigorously monitored while on parole. Not sure what exactly OP is taking issue with here.

[–]dangerousopinions 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well penile measuring is bunk pseudo science and to be fair, if this were applied to women (assuming that were possible) there would probably be some outrage.

[–]aesopstortoise 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Using pseudoscience to monitor rapists, hmmm ...

http://skepdic.com/penilep.html

[–]Akesgeroth 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Considering our societies still think that a polygraph is a "lie detector", it's not surprising.

[–]jimmybrite 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Society does but the courts in some countries/states think otherwise.

[–]caius_iulius_caesar 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

skepdick.com?

[–]Frittern 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wonder how politically correct any mans dick really is? And the same is true for a women's arousal. I'm sure some uncomfortable physically invasive procedure could be devised to test for inappropriate sexual stimulation among women as well. To spare women this violation and humiliation of such a procedure, the patriarchy sure is doing a crappy job.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There already are ways to measure female arousal. Meredith Chivers used them to show that women are turned on by footage of monkeys mating!

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The monitoring device his going be used 'to gauge his arousal' as images are 'flashed before his eyes'.

Great that people don't know how penises work.

[–]DroogDim 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Who are the real sickos? I'm starting to wonder about the people who want to do "penis monitoring."

[–]caius_iulius_caesar 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Horrorshow to viddy another ACO-lover here!

[–]herewegoaga1n 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Morning wood = Parole violation. Thanks Obama.

[–]JoeBidenBot -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Cough It's Biden Time!

[–]herewegoaga1n 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Hillaryous.

[–]JoeBidenBot 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Haha, you're funny :P.

[–]herewegoaga1n 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm sorry, whenever I see Biden my mind just immediately goes to the head of President Nixon on Futurama.

[–]JoeBidenBot 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

too true

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

If this was happening to people that weren't convicted serial rapists I'd have a bigger issue with it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I'm with you on that... this guys a piece of trash who drugged women and raped them.. AFAIC he should stay in prison.

[–]Maschalismos 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Here's the thing: rape is a very, very broad term these days. Do we know what he actually did?

[–]ThePigmanAgain 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, he apparently drugged a bunch of women and fucked them without permission. Pretty much rape by any decent person's definition. He's a serial rapist, probably incurable, and should never be allowed out of prison regardless of what they attach to his dick.

[–]AndaliteBandit 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, we know that he plead guilty to drugging and raping nine women. What more do you want?

[–]corpseflower 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You have a point, but you are missing the real danger. Even if it is only used for actual rapists now, how long until it is used for 'rapists' who had drunk sex? Or men who might someday 'rape' (i.e. all men everywhere)?

Imagine having to be fitted with a penile monitor in order to be allowed on a college campus? I can see it happening.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From what I understand the very first 'rape' in this case was a woman getting drunk off her ass and going home with a man and then waking up with him.

[–]caius_iulius_caesar 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

According to the article, he is pleading to conspiracy.

[–]CORNDOGCOMMANDO 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

wow what a crappy site, does anyone have a breakdown of what this is about.

i'm on a phone and cant scroll pass the damn advertising ad, damn site as soon as i pass the ad forces me back up to the ad.

Well from what i read they keep using that word freedom yet have a laundry list of what he can't do.

I mean wow can't drink alcohol for the rest of his life? Did i read that right?

[–]Endless_Summer -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, he's a convicted serial rapist. What rights should he have? He should be happy he's not spending the rest of his life in jail. The only person to blame for all his liberties being taken away is Sharper.

[–]bloodshot_eyes 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There is such a thing as cruel and unusual punishment you know. We used to have a very clear cut sense of what is a just punishment for commiting crimes: the denial of liberty, aka prison time. In recent years, however, the political class have siezed upon loopholes to further punish people, under the guise of "parole conditions". Now, punishment can extend well beyond whatever is on the books as the legislated punishment for a given crime.

[–]Castigale 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its turning into a situation where they'll eventually push for outright torture under the guise of "treatment" and people still won't think its enough because "He's a rapist, what can you say?"

The fundamental problem with this is that we're moving beyond "justice" and firmly into the realm of "vengeance". At some point the people doing the punishing against (really whoever) become no better, or even worse, than the person they're punishing.

Rapists suck, but at what point do the folks in the justice department become even worse? History's shown us the human's will go to very scary lengths to punish a "bad person", and in some instances the crime is totally eclipsed by the reaction to the crime. Just because you're in the justice department doesn't mean your laws are 'just'.

Rapists deserve punishment, but some kind of line needs to exists in society, and in service TO society.

[–]Insula92 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Cruel and unusual

[–]ThePigmanAgain -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

As opposed to raping a bunch of women, huh?

[–]Insula92 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No?

[–]AndaliteBandit -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He agreed to this as part of his plea deal. If he prefers, he could spend those years in prison instead.

[–]StrikingEarth -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I'll admit that this is a very strange way of "therapy," but he's just undergoing lie detector tests... On his dick. It's not like he's wearing a penis monitor like an ankle bracelet for house arrest. I'd really like to know what they're going to do if he gets aroused. Does he get thrown in prison for having a hard-on? Can someone clarify what the purpose of monitoring his sexual arousal is?

Anyway he's a rapist, fuck him.

[–]ALTSuzzxingcoh 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's non-proven pseudoscience. Billions of people have penises but somehow, there are still those of them who believe that getting an erection is proof of sexual arousal. It's the same as with lie detectors. Hogwash.

[–]dangerousopinions 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most of the psychology community thinks this is all rubbish too. It's just a small sect of nuts within the profession that participate in this. It happens at epidemic levels in California, except what they're doing it totally illegal.

[–]tothecatmobile 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Its a fairly pointless exercise though, are they going to hold him in violation of his probation because he found something arousing?

[–]StrikingEarth 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

That's what I can't figure out. It seems like they're using it as a benchmark for his "therapy." I can't imagine that he would be put back in prison for a thought crime.

[–]baskandpurr[🍰] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm trying to figure out what they are going to show him. If somebody put a sensor on my dick and showed me porn I assume I would get an erection. Is he supposed to not be attracted to women? Are they going to show him some sort of simulated rape and put him in jail if he responds? Because you could do that test on most women and get a response. Fifty Shades is an international best seller and chart topping motion picture.

[–]StrikingEarth 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That would be true if women were capable of heinous sexual violence.

[–]baskandpurr[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

In the case of Darren Sharper I don't see much sexual violence but you can describe it as heinous if you want. He didn't beat those women, he drugged them, but its clear he did rape them and he should be punished for that. I have no argument that he is guilty of rape, I debate whether this is a sensible response.

This article doesn't give enough information to draw certain conclusions but it sounds like pseudo science and reminds me of the methods used in A Clockwork Orange. Showing sexual images to sex offenders and then punishing them for being stimulated seems like an unusual form of torture. Imagine showing pictures of food to people who steal food and then punishing them for being hungry.

[–]StrikingEarth 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reminds me of some weird, outdated Freud inspired psychoanalytic treatment.

[–]ThePigmanAgain -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Boo fucking hoo. He raped all those women and we are supposed to feel sorry for him? He should stay in jail for the rest of his life. Remember, serial rapists are about as incurable as pedos. When he gets out, he probably will do it again.

[+]Endless_Summer -15 points-14 points-13 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I really don't care how shitty they treat serial rapists of any gender. I'm ok with this.

[+][deleted] 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

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[–]ThePigmanAgain -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, please. Precisely what would the plutocrats have to gain from having everyone's dick monitored!?!?!

[+]Endless_Summer -8 points-7 points-6 points 11 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

Yes, to be used on more rapists.

Edit: are you really trying to imply this is going to be used on all men? I'd like to see what you base that on. Also, your title doesn't reflect anything actually in the article. There is no 'penis monitoring'. Shit post. At best, you're defending a convicted rapist.

Clearly OP is not an intelligent person.

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[–]JohnKimble111 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

An alternative feminist school of thought is that all sex is rape, so those who prefer that theory at least don't regard celibate men as rapists.

[–]Endless_Summer 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No it's worse than that. Those people believe hetero sex is rape. Female on female rape is actually glorified.

[+]Endless_Summer -6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

No, that's a strawman. I hate feminism too, but this is disingenuous. You can't even respond because you have no ground to stand on here. He's a convicted rapist that will be under constant surveillance while on parole. What do you suggest should be different?

[–]rocelot7 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not really, but paranoid non the less. Now excuse me I was reading 1984.

[–]ThePigmanAgain -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here, have an upvote for having some sense. I am very disappointed at the attitude in this thread. It's exactly the kind of thing feminists will point to when screaming "Misogyny!" at the MRM.

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