Question for Blackpillers regarding AF/BB

elektroncloud · 2023-10-23T22:41:21+00:00

You’re either the woman’s first choice (alpha) or a person she settled for (beta). Remember wom*n can cheat and be bred by anyone she wants within hours.

SilentFroggy · 2023-10-24T01:28:41+00:00

You don’t have to be the typical chad. As long as she finds you attractive. Niche unique looking guys exist but isn’t talked as much.

However all the plain looking guys I see with relationships have supported the AF/BB theory. The men did most of the work and the women weren’t high quality either.

DarkAdmirable653 · 2023-10-23T22:39:56+00:00

I'm pretty redpilled with a bit of black; but I'd say that if you don't generate genuine desire in the woman as a man, then she isn't attracted to you at all. It's not like men's attraction where there are degrees to it. Women's attraction is either: attracted or not attracted.

Bubbly_Pension4020 · 2023-10-24T00:30:35+00:00

You have Chad-lite and giga-Chad, so the black pill already has different degrees of chaddom.

I don’t think there’s anything between alpha and beta because sex is either transactional or it’s not. If it’s desire driven and freely given, then congrats, you’re an alpha. If you’re bartering for sex in one form or another like most men you’re beta.

five10manlet · 2023-10-24T03:04:04+00:00

No, there's more nuance than just that binary. But not that much more. Women will still compare you to the best gigachad they've ever had, even if you're Chad. That's just how it goes. The oofy doofy can be attractive enough for them to have a decent sex life but not enough where she would have had casual sex with him, i.e. above average and 5'11, or maybe he has a huge P that gives her massive orgasms which makes her come back for more all the time, but these are exceptions and the same principles regarding physical attractiveness and how women give sex easily to attractive men still apply, even if it's not always 100% of the time in such harsh and absolute terms.

Wide-Illustrator2906 · 2023-10-24T03:14:35+00:00

You might not be the women’s perfect 10/10 match, and she might not be yours, but humans aren’t perfect. However you would both still be genuinely attracted to each other. Is this still possible?

Yes, it's definitely possible but for her to keep her attraction going long term she must see you as a catch.

Was this zone ever possible or would the man automatically be considered top 20% by virtue of garnering genuine attraction?

This is exactly it. You don't have to be a top 20% man but she must see you as one.

SadDogOfShiman0 · 2023-10-24T07:50:53+00:00

Maybe these "just being attracted to each other" exist but they still suck. If you can't be seen as the perfect 10/10 specimen for your partner, what's the point? It just takes one perfect male to just hit her up and many years of relationship go down the drain.

five10manlet · 2023-10-24T03:00:04+00:00

No, there's more nuance than just that binary. But women will still compare you to the best they've ever had.

slazengerx · 2023-10-23T23:17:22+00:00

Increasingly I’ve seen this idea that it’s only AF/BB or incel for men from some blackpillers and I’m not sure if they’re being too extreme or if it’s just a product of modern dating.

To believe this one must also believe that essentially 99.9% of people live betabuxxed lives. That is, their entire life is one big miserable betabuxx experience of settling. If you don't have the very best of everything (the Chad equivalent of everything) in life 100% of the time then you're miserable (or you're coping, bro). If you're not eating $200 meals every night (Chad meal), flying on a private jet (Chad travel), driving a McLaren (Chad car), etc etc... then you're "settling" and, thus, miserable. You either have your first choice of everything or you have a bunch of shit you "settled" for; you either own the world or you should be in tears 24/7. This is the logical extension of the black pill AF/BB mindset.

Edit: As much as I love downvotes, it would be nice if someone would actually rebut my comment with actual words. Unless no one is capable of so doing, of course.

Eyesofmalice · 2023-10-24T10:53:17+00:00

There must be, there’s billions of people on this planet anyway.

ItoshiSae10 · 2023-10-24T13:03:22+00:00

You dont need to be a 10/10 but she has to find you attractive

Title	Question for Blackpillers regarding AF/BB
Author	TheGrandScheme3
Upvotes	10
Comments	50
Date	October 23, 2023 10:26 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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