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When There’s Nothing to Be Attracted To

September 21, 2022

In my search on forums ranging from no-pill to some unfortunate ncel torture society fantasies, similar statements always comes up:

  1. I’m not social, I don’t have a good job, my life has made my personality shitty, and I’m not handsome and I’m actually ugly: I think it’s unfair that people aren’t attracted to me.

  2. I have money and a good job, but I’m short/balding and women aren’t attracted to me.

  3. I’m nice to women, but I’m average all around and I’ll never find a partner.

I’m going to briefly discuss the last two then get to my question.

Yeah, it’s hard to date as someone who is not conventionally attractive in the society they have been raised in: however, I don’t think it’s as impossible as some men here make it seem. There are women that would happily date them: go to the forever alone women forum, those women really just want a partner; but I think the issue comes from not wanting to “settle” and internalizing it as inadequacy.

As for my actual question: if you are a person that self describe as being ugly, anti-social, financially unstable, with a terrible personality, but is still angry at the fact you must use a lot of effort to even attempt to get female attention, what are you expecting the person to be attracted to? Would you be attracted to an ugly woman with a shitty personality and bad hygiene? Would you marry her, or even give her long term affection?

I am trying to understand where the anger comes from and who it’s really aimed at.

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Title When There’s Nothing to Be Attracted To
Author anonymous-platypus1
Upvotes 0
Comments 21
Date September 21, 2022 3:04 PM UTC (4 months ago)
Subreddit /r/AllPillDebate
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[–]anonymous-platypus1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s 100% a lie. I can like muscles on one guy but not on another. I can love to talk about books and movies, but maybe the way a certain guy talks about it is too pretentious for me and would turn me off. I can like mustaches on someone but not on someone else. On top of that there is no amount of good looks that would excuse someone being shitty toward me or others. Disabled females definitely had trouble dating…

[–]anonymous-platypus1[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The way you describe it means everything is subjective because every relationship and every reaction you have with a different person is going to be different. So there is someone out there for everyone! But if you met someone that you felt only had negative qualities, and you weren’t attracted to them, would it be justified for them to be enraged at you for not being attracted?

[–]IHateNormis 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Male attraction is subjective hence almost every female can easily find a guy. Female attraction is objective, you have to conform as much as possible to the ideal. It’s why disabled guys, disfigured guys and others have so much trouble but disabled females have no issue. Due to this there isn’t someone for everyone, it’s because of female nature.

It is well within someone’s right to be angry if they are rejected. I have no right to dictate how someone should feel

[–]anonymous-platypus1[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Would you be attracted to someone that had a bad personality, low self-esteem, wasn’t attractive and didn’t have their finances in order? Answer honestly.

[–]IHateNormis 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Personality is subjective and good or bad depends on the person. I would prefer a female with low self esteem because I have low self esteem, attractiveness is also subjective and not having their finances in order doesn’t bother me because my salary is quite high

[–]IHateNormis 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It seems like you are insinuating that one needs to fill in criteria like a job application to attract a female. Like being social, job, “personality”, handsome and other things. If that is the case females are ironically “dehumanising” men as a set of criteria instead of people with unique personalities and perspectives.

In regards to your comment about “foreveralone women” like other females on the internet they are not actually alone. They are bombarded with private messages from guys but that is not good enough for them. The now banned femcel subreddit even had a rule where guys couldn’t proposition. It is a complete joke and meme. Unattractive guys do not have the option for these females and cannot settle.

Ugly females get attention from males because men are a lot more open and less shallow. Men look for ways to find a female attractive, it looks like females do the complete opposite. Undesirable men have a right to feel angry because most people would be pissed off about double standards.

It seems like you are trying to say that ugly men have no right to express their emotions and accept their place. That is in itself another reason to get angry, you are demeaning their experience and saying their problems are not real. There are many others like you particularly those who are feminists or on the left. The problems of men do not seem to matter.

[–]anonymous-platypus1[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Didn’t you say you were a forever alone woman

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link


[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I used to scroll that sub before.All were just saying they don't find man and nothing else.Maybe it is changed now.I am not interested.

All those talks about improvement,they will only do it to man( kind of like Chad) who they get attracted to.

[–]anonymous-platypus1[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link


[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

When it comes to dating man their level, they wouldn't immediately do it.They will just wait to see how it goes.

Women would choose to be single rather than settling for lower

[–]anonymous-platypus1[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You should go read that sub. It’s literally almost identical to the incel subs, but the females aren’t anywhere near as violent toward the men rejecting them. They are talking about ways they could improve or just be good partners, not being upset at all men who reject them. Go read it.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you talking about foreveralone sub?

[–]Kappador66 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it's more the hopeless, many don't see a way forward.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Foreveralone women are useless as I am one.Their situation is just hitting the wall or made bad decision.No one would date them even incels. Are men seriously looking for marriage because I am seeing a lot of talk about it? Men are superior.They can improve in sometime even though it takes a lot of hard work or else you are doomed.

[–]anonymous-platypus1[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Lol girl you are wild. What benefit does a man with no money, looks or charm provide? Men are not superior, some Will do anything for a crumb of pussy just like some women will do anything for a crumb of clout. The fact that incels and forever alone women can exist simultaneously is unreasonable; which one is it? If both are that unattractive shouldn’t they be able to be together?

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If he has no money or looks,then focus on improvement.Doesnt man want to fuck many women as possible?It is only hard if he want marriage with good woman.

Incel and foreveralone women don't date each other because women are hypergamous and aren't willing to settle for lower.

[–]anonymous-platypus1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Those men are not going to date those foreveralone women, they would have sex with them, but that’s it. There’s no love or affection, and for most women, no orgasms , so the sex isn’t even fulfilling.

[–]anonymous-platypus1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I keep having to say this over and over: a man being willing to have sex with you is not the same as a man actually dating you.

[–]zoloftabuser 1 point2 points 2 (0 children) | Copy Link

I think a big point in this specific topic is how men are far more willing to date down, whether it’s in personality and/or looks. You’re right, there are women who would go for all 3 men (obviously not equally distributed), but plenty of men who are ‘superior’ to these women will happily pair up with said women.

Overall, I do think that the ‘it’s over’ mentality isn’t a good one. It’s truly ‘over’ for a small amount of people. But, one must also ask: is the juice worth the squeeze? If you as a man do become successful but only attract women you aren’t into, what’s the point?

[–]shreyastalpade 3 points4 points 2 (0 children) | Copy Link

What women say and what women actually do is different in most cases.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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