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why do men fetishize asexuality?

puririnpa
January 31, 2023
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i can understand not liking a literal onlyfans whore or someone with 300 bodycount but the absolute fixation on ''virginity'' is a bit concerning(saying this as a virgin female, albeit i don't think i want to enter an actual relationship ever so whatever)

is it simply the insecurity that a sexual woman will not ''prefer'' them? it's ironic how they will complain about dead bedrooms or have weird porn induced fetishes then go for a ''virgin'' female with low sex drive.

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Title why do men fetishize asexuality?
Author puririnpa
Upvotes 4
Comments 58
Date January 31, 2023 10:54 AM UTC (1 month ago)
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[–]EviessVeralan 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Being a virgin doesn't necessarily make you asexual.

[–]TaxNegative161 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

True, but I really, really think some dudes here should read about it and do some soul searching. I see a lot of people here repulsed by the act of sex. That is not common in people who want to have it.

[–]Fit-Faithlessness149 8 points9 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Probably for the same reason that women fetishize height. It fulfills a psychological need that has been bred into us over generations.

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

fetishizing height is a recent phenomenon induced (or rather, overexeggrated) by media. fetishizing asexuality probably is too.

[–]InadequateSkeleton 6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

the largest males monopolizing on reproduction can be seen all over the animal kingdom. height is the most universally consistant preference across human cultures

tall dark and handsome is not a new idea

in seals, as the female swims towards the large alpha males to get a load dumped in them, the smaller beta males will desperately ejaculate in her direction hoping to get lucky

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

there are animals where the female is bigger, besides animal sex is usually just rape, not relevant to the dating culture humans have.

tall as in relatively taller compred to herself, not 6'6 or whatever cope height incels say(in fact even now, average height guy with an attractive face will probably outslay an ugly tall guy) simlarly, roiding and huge muscles is a recent phenomenon too.

[–]InadequateSkeleton 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

there are exceptions but thats the standard and in humans and close relatives the males are bigger. and again rape happens but its not the standard, the female seal is not veing raped when she seeks out the large alpha males

i never mentioned muscles nor do i believe in them

and height is 100% about how males compare to other males, 5’ women still lust for 6’+ guys

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

why were 5'10 guys not bitching about not being 6'6 in 80's?

even these days i believe a guy with a good fce but average height does better than the inverse tbh.

[–]InadequateSkeleton 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

slower flow of information. women couldnt just go online and find an endless supply of chads so it was less competition. also less slutty culture and more reliant on marriage

i do think you can get away with lik 5’11, maybe shorter in some countries, but you need quite a face to beat an average 6’3 dude as an average height dude.

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

some 5'10 prettyboy: https://www.reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/comments/108fash/proof\_of\_prettyboypill\_and\_faceheight/

[–]InadequateSkeleton 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

your point? i looked through his comments he says he did not put his height on his profile because he is unfortunate enough to be average height. and like i said yes a great face can help if your height is not very short

[–]Last-Post2085 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

fetishizing height is a recent phenomenon induced

Well, women are more likely to follow social trends and what is popular. If dating a tall man is the 'in' thing atm that's what a lot of them will do.

[–]MoggedagainBlackPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This bluepiller unironically thinks the reason women prefer tall men is not biological but social. Muh social trends amirite?

[–]InkieForBeingCurry 9 points10 points  (31 children) | Copy Link

If a man is a virgin what is wrong with him wanting a virgin over someone who was pleasuring Chad while he was rotting away?

[–]puririnpa[S] -3 points-2 points  (30 children) | Copy Link

a virgin female at late age is likely asexual or low sex drive. but males today think having a low sex drive is hot, it's weird.

furthermore, westerners invented sexual liberation then bitch about it.

[–]InkieForBeingCurry 6 points7 points  (27 children) | Copy Link

Female does not have to be late age, any legal age is fine

[–]puririnpa[S] -1 points0 points  (26 children) | Copy Link

ok but why is that female not having sexual urges sexy

[–]InkieForBeingCurry 4 points5 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

Because she has the same level of sexual experience and does not have residual semen of other men on her

[–]puririnpa[S] -2 points-1 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

it's not only virgin guys that have this fixation, you realize this right?

''residual semen'' is unscientific.

[–]InkieForBeingCurry 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes but I don’t care about the preferences of non virgin men.

Residual semen isn’t unscientific. Once someone has contact with semen (or anything) there will always be residual amounts. If someone has worn gold jewellery before you will be able to find gold on their body in trace amounts

[–]puririnpa[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

if you don't care then don't comment, these debates aren't for you to self-insert.

[–]InkieForBeingCurry 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Well my comment was in regards to virgin men wanting virgin females. You brought up non virgin men. I would say they also wouldn’t want to deal with residual semen from other men but I’m not sure if they would be worried about the female having experiences because they were also having experiences.

Also other mammals also do not like non-virgins. Cat penises have a shape so they can dig out residual semen from the cat vagina

[–]puririnpa[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

cats don't seek out ''female cats with low n count'' they usually just mate with whatever they spot on, in fact, kittens can actually have multiple fathers DNA, which is something not possible in humans.

also a lot of animal mating is just rape, if you're going to apply animal logic to humans.

[–]InadequateSkeleton 2 points3 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

the pseudoscientific explenations guys will give are stupid, its just a biological thing, males are evolved to be extremely paranoid about being cuckolded and women are evolved to be likely to cuckold beta males. the thought of a woman getting railed by chads just induces a visceral gut feeling that kills romance and trust

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (16 children) | Copy Link

yet ther are a loot of men who fetishize being cucked yet females who fetishize being cucked is very rare

[–]InadequateSkeleton 1 point2 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

proving my point, its eroticized because men have such intense feelings about it. why do you think so many women have rape fetishes?

i’ve fantasized about it out of cope, but no one would prefer to be the sexually inadequate cuck

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (14 children) | Copy Link

lmao dude admitted he got turned on to cuck fantasies

i'm sorry

some men have rape fetishes too, but female rape fetish is honestly just them imaginging a hot guy dominating them.

[–]MachiNarciBlatant Redpill Troll 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Because being a man who breaks their sexual boundaries and is attractive enough to bed an asexual/virgin woman provides heavy validation.

[–]KirthWGersen 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

As a guy who has had sex with several virgins I don't agree: in every case it was just being in the right place at the right time (friend of a sibling; friend of a friend; friend of a friend's boyfriend; drunk in the right bar). If it hadn't been me, it would have been someone else, better or worse than me, soon enough.

Sex is much better with women who are experienced enough to feel comfortable with their own sexuality.

[–]InadequateSkeleton 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But thats not the appealing part, the fantasy is a woman who wants me and will be mine. We have strong urges but are still virgins, we would be happy to devote all our desire to one woman who is the same way and will reciprocate

It may not be realistic but its still what we crave

[–]hutavan 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe it's appealing if a woman has high sex drive, but self-restrains herself for "the one". Just a guess.

[–]LIGMAMALEINC 3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Thinking virginal woman are all asexual low libido prudes and high n count women are all high libido sex goddesses is a common misconception and bluepill cope.

[–]SexPanther_Bot 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

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Let's go see if we can make this little kitty purrrrr

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

you know what i mean, a woman having a high sex drive offends men, while they contradictioraliy complain about dead bedrooms or women being choosy.

i'm close to asexual myself

[–]LIGMAMALEINC 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

high sex drive offends men

You're conflating promiscuity with high sex drive/libido. No guy ever goes 'my girlfriend wants to have sex 3 times a day, help!'.

dead bedrooms or women being choosy.

Dead bedrooms are their own separate issue, and women being choosy is peripheral to libido. High sex drive women are still Chad only (hyperbolically speaking).

[–]ManWazoA poly Chad 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dead bedrooms are their own separate issue

Lol, you can't separate dead bedrooms from women not interested in sex. Unless you think men are the reason dead bedrooms happen?

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

normie still can get sex, chad only is a bluepill cope but a woman that
is low drive either needs very specific qualities to be aroused or
probably chooses on things that aren't sexually attractive(such as
betabux)

[–]JLb0498 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Who ever told you that men prefer asexual women? Man prefer virgins, and virginity ≠ asexuality. You don't have to be asexual to be a virgin.

[–]puririnpa[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

as a female virgin myself, i'm very low sex drive, sexual inexperience also suggests a lower sexual drive or being more choosy.

[–]JLb0498 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just because you're that way doesn't mean every female virgin is like that. The tiny fraction of females that are virgins in 2023 are probably mostly either religious are are just waiting for the right guy so their first time is special.

Also to be more clear, the dream girl is a virgin who's hypersexual, but only for me. Someone who has an insatiable sex drive but doesn't want to be with anyone other than me. And this desire is caused by biology, but also by the male ego to some degree. The idea of your girlfriend having been with another man and possibly comparing you and him is repulsive and can make a guy pretty insecure.

And lastly, there's something special and attractive about the idea of being the only guy a girl's ever been with, and only a virgin can offer that feeling to a man.

[–]infinitofluxo 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is not about "not having sex", it is about wanting long-term relationships, which makes your body count low. If you want to marry someone, there is no way that a past of dozens/hundreds of sexual partners could mean anything positive, it just means that person is not very fond of LTRs or have a sexual demand that a single partner can't suffice.

The person could claim that nobody wanted to have a relationship with them and they ended up on a streak of having casual sex after a few dates with people that vanished after, which might mean they either pick the wrong people or are really unwanted as a partner by most people sexually attracted to them. Basically "I had a lot of sexual partners but did not like it, I was just trying to make someone fall in love with me" but it is still doesn't mean anything positive, as I said.

A person that is still a virgin and looking for a partner after a certain age is just weird, and a man that demands that his new 35yo wife must be a virgin is mentally deranged, he basically is demanding that the woman must have been rejected her whole life or has psychological problems that lead her to avoid trying to get in relationships.

[–]Opening_Pattern_301GloriousPill 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What are you talking about.....no seriously what the fuck are you actually talking about? For you virgin=asexual? And to be okay with someone means that you re fetishizing them? Whats next? do men who dont want transwomen are fetishizing biological women now? What a ridiculous charade.

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

as a virgin myself, you are likely to be asexual or choosy if you are a virgin at unusually late ages, i can understand virgin gguys having that preference, but non-virgin guys having that seems like fetishizing asexuality.

troons are not women, so it's different.

[–]Opening_Pattern_301GloriousPill 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

First let me clarify something, the virgin and sexual past talks only comes up when it comes to relationships, when it comes to casual encounters the majority of men including the ones who have that preference wont care about one or the another, the absolute majority even reject the virgins in favor of the promiscuous woman simply because she wont get attached and they wont feel guilty about it.

Now when it comes to relationships the reasons why many men prefer virgins or women who havent been on and about are completely emotional reasons, nothing sexual about it, men do not find virginity a sexual turn on or a turn off, they find colorful pasts an emotional turn off the same way you find certain guys unattractive and couldnt picture yourself dating them even if they are good on paper.

A think your confusion is solved now.

[–]HowdyY4LL 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

From 16-20 as a man, all of my partners had 20+ bodies. I myself have 20+ bodies. I now have a house and a car and a good job. I come with no bills or kids and the house and car are paid off. I prefer my women unfucked now since I no longer need women I want them unfucked or at LEAST 5 or less bodies for marriage.

[–]Peacesquad -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We don’t?

[–]SilentFroggy 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

They don’t. They want a virgin that will enjoy it with them only. But the reality is that’s not going to happen because most men aren’t sexually attractive enough.

[–]_Duriel_1000_ 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

virgin != low sex drive... are you insane??

[–]Ambassadior 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Think about it logically,

Who are you more likely to sustain a ltr with, the woman who has been through many men, or the one who's been with none.

People get attached, women who have been with many guys are a flight risk. Men have this preference for better chances at long term bonding.

[–]MicrosoftOSX 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I believe it is evolution’s doing. Men who prefer virgins will have a much higher probability of passing down his genes. Its like babies evolved to be attached to their care takers. The ones dont form attachment most likely wouldn’t survive. It is wrong and evil to say a preference in virgin to be a fetish, demonizing the preference. Women prefer capable men, and this is exactly the same case.

[–]Ok-District-1244 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think most men never gave a shit until someone wronged them. I personally don’t care how many people a lady has been with. But I know that the higher it is the more likely she will be to cheat on me. It’s not some guttural reaction we have it’s a learned behavior in reaction to a pattern many many of us have encountered.

[–]red__hulkcerified male advisor 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Short answer: Some young men are virgin and have a hard time getting dates so the would prefer a partner with similar experience. Having to deal with a woman that has a bodycount north of 3 or 5 while youre a virgin at similar age is probably pretty intimidating.

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Non virgin men have this fixation too

[–]red__hulkcerified male advisor 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

How do you know?

[–]puririnpa[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Seen it

[–]red__hulkcerified male advisor 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you have a magic wand that can tell you which men are virgins?

[–]Last-Post2085 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

A virgin would be nice, as they are inexperienced and you can teach them. One who has had 10+ men may be expecting a specific level of competency.

[–]WhiteGuar 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Rascals claim the virginity of dozens of women who are then left to rot and nobody beats an eye. Virgin male dreams of marrying a virgin girl like him that he may even ever meet and we get threads like this.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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