Does anyone know how we can put an end to this red pill thing?

2022-03-10T20:58:21+00:00

I think one cause of this gender conflict is class and economic issues and men feel that they are losing ground. They feel like they are being emasculated intentionally by feminism but what’s really happening is extreme wealth inequality and declining opportunities globally, the traditional gender role for a man was to be that breadwinner, leader, provider, but it’s near impossible through no fault of their own, they aren’t beta males in that sense, this is not self inflicted or intrinsic to them, it’s the elites who are inflicting these conditions on them. Then their grievances around labour conditions and suicide and mental health are misdirected at feminism and other progressive movements rather than class conflict, this is done in order to stop them from seeing their real enemy. Ironically they aren’t red pilled at all, and the traditionalism they want hurts them too because it’s fundamentally inegalitarian. It’s near impossible to feed a family on one income unless you’re like some VP on Wall Street or at a consulting firm, and those jobs are closed to all but those who have connections or elite educations, this is not because of feminism or hypergamy. Women in the workplace aren’t there to emasculate men and damage the traditional family, they are there for survival too.

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thom92Pf3105 · 2022-03-10T05:23:37+00:00

When men/women stops making fun of/bullying other men for being virgins, it Will stop.

thetruthishere_ · 2022-03-10T17:01:06+00:00

You cant, you can only put an end to if for yourself.

isbostontheworstcity · 2022-03-10T03:26:23+00:00

We still haven't ended nazis, apparently. So it seems like an unrealistic goal.

No-Writing-9626 · 2022-03-10T03:49:11+00:00

They will just get left behind 🤷🏻‍♀️

ferociouslovetackle · 2022-03-10T03:55:07+00:00

The idea as it's extracted from the matrix will phase out between generations as a fad.

The idea as it's opposition to a blue pill can be flipped if you convince enough redpillers they're living in just another version of the blue pill. This can occur from 1: extreme posts like parody that cause them to reassess their affinities, or 2: the most gullible can question their views after social interaction that favors other ideas. Both methods will need a replacement idea or there'd be relapsing to avoid dissonance.

If the idea goes that it's a natural tendency for some folks to be averse to changes?
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Hellion_shark · 2022-03-10T10:41:01+00:00

There will always be desperate young people for them to pray on...

HGW86 · 2022-03-10T05:00:35+00:00

When I think about combating the red-pill, my mind automatically jumps to an opt-ed that was written in the LA Times a few years ago about Jordan Peterson that I constantly think about. The reason I heard of this opt-ed was I noticed a lot of pro-feminist blogs absolutely throw a fit over how the opt-ed defends Peterson, which unfortunately it totally does.

The link is right here --- > https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-young-peterson-20180601-story.html

The gut reaction to those articles, as well as pretty much every single red-pill scumbag like Peterson, is to immediately jump onto the misogynistic shit that they spew, which while it's a totally understandable reaction, but such reactionism is absolutely useless if not outright counter-productive when it comes to actually combating the influence of dopes like Peterson.

If you look past the misogynistic garbage, the author of this article states pretty bluntly exactly how the red-pill has successfully marketed it's appeal, how many of us who oppose the red-pill unwittingly help spread it's repulsive message and most importantly how we can actually defeat it.

Despite occasional lip service to the idea that feminism can liberate men too from patriarchal confines, most feminist discourse spends far more time bashing men for trivial transgressions.

The fact that the word “masculinity” so often appears next to the word “toxic” says a lot about this cultural moment. So does the proliferation of neologisms for bad behavior with “man” as a prefix: “mansplaining,” “manspreading,” etc. Meanwhile, male troubles are met with “What about the menz?” mockery. Just look at the debate about Peterson. British journalist Helen Lewis has jeered that he is viewed as a serious intellectual “because he’s writing for sad young white men — and their problems are, you know, real problems.”

and.....

For all its successes, contemporary feminism’s main message to men is not one of equal partnership. Rather, it’s: Repent, abase yourself, and be an obedient feminist ally — and we still won’t trust you. It’s no wonder that Peterson has found an eager audience in this climate. If feminists don’t like his message, they should offer [men] a better one.

She's unfortunately absolutely right about this, if we want to put a lot of these red-pill influencers out of business (which is my end game for being on subs like this), we have to directly appeal to it's intended audience in a more empathic manner, which the intended audience is emotionally insecure heterosexual men.

What makes someone like Jordan Peterson so dangerous is the fact he totally is a competent therapist and has given a lot of men a space to address their problems who feel they have no other place to go while dumping a bunch of kooky traditionalist bullshit on them. Men feel like they're being listened to in red-pill forms, and in return, they will accept their nonsense as truth.

The appeal of the red-pill has an emotional draw and it directly appeals to insecurities that a lot of men have. You can call out the misogyny, debunk and fact check their nonsense until you're blue in the face, but it's not gonna go away unless we address those insecurities directly.

If we give our own message to men that directly addresses their insecurities without judgment and directly appeals to their emotions in a healthy way, the red pill loses all appeal and dies. That is how we destroy the red pill.

Big-Bonkin-Head · 2022-03-10T04:06:37+00:00

Probably Sex Robots. Not even tryna troll. The Red Pill is filled with a lot of sexually frustrated men. Once the sex robots drop with many different features, they’ll die down. The Red Pill also supports sex dolls very much already so once that technology becomes revolutionary, they’ll get a sex robot and stay in their own Man Caves

Huge-Theme6774 · 2022-03-10T15:26:02+00:00

It usually ends naturally with maturity. Trp can be great for a period, but most people who go all in, end up craving more emotional integrity, deeper connections, and a sense of purpose other than sex

2022-03-10T10:45:23+00:00

One way is to teach the younger generation the mind hacks these grifters use to get them hooked to any idea, no matter what it is. The more they learn and realize how vulnerable most humans are to the power of suggestion, cult recruitment (no matter how it gets repackaged), the cult leader's (-cough- "coaches" -cough-) empty promises, how they sell you products under false names, etc. They'll wise up.

Nobody likes getting screwed over and these men should be extra mad that their struggles in life are being exploited simply because these con artists keep repackaging the same cult techniques over and over and over. The "newspeak" is more dangerous than many realize and they think it'll only show up in war and politics, but that assumption can cost them everything. If they truly wanted to help these men, they would give them the correct terminology to allow them to do more through research and not change words that keep them bottlenecked into "Red Pill" only coaches.

""Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing." -George Orwell, 1984

Deidara-katsu · 2022-03-11T01:46:28+00:00

Lmaoooooo, why do you want to stop red pill?

Why not stop blue pill?

But being serious, why are you trying to stop RP? Why do you feel the need to change these men? Why not just live your life and avoid it and them?

simpnuggets34 · 2022-03-12T04:28:46+00:00

Make good, well researched, entertaining videos criticizing and debunking these RP people. I've seen videos where people try to criticize them where it's just a boring guy in a bad, dark angle just shitting on the person with no evidence or anything. Doing this won't help the cause, people will think you're just hating. People like documentary type of videos, so doing that will grab their attention. Of course you'll need to abuse the algorithm somehow to get your video shown to many people.

xvszero · 2022-03-10T07:22:44+00:00

You can't. Grifters and haters will always exist.

Title	Does anyone know how we can put an end to this red pill thing?
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Date	March 10, 2022 3:12 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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