My trans cousin is falling down the red pill rabbit hole and it's incredibly scary to watch.

sickbabe · 2024-07-25T21:35:57+00:00

just start calling him Ernst Röhm (not sarcastic, but I realize it might not be the most helpful). seriously though, some historical perspective could inform him that things do not work out for fascism enthusiasts in minority groups.

Exp_1515 · 2024-07-26T00:35:29+00:00

I’m not a psychologist, so this is speculation. Really, lower than speculation. More like thinking out loud

But I wonder if he always wanted to feel what it was like to be one of those men? And so, even if that wasn’t at all his reason for transitioning, he still found that to be a type of… bonus after transitioning? Like some role he finally had the means to express himself through?

If this comes across as insulting, I really do sincerely apologize. I’m just trying to toss out some questions that explore some ideas for what he’s maybe feeling or wanting to express himself as. They could be some questions to explore with a licensed professional

EdgewaterEnchantress · 2024-07-26T04:11:27+00:00

My honest opinion?

Your cousin was probably always an @$$hole and it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if part of the reason they transitioned to begin with was because they always resented their mother, wanted to separate themself from her, and I suspect that if the father is in the picture, then he probably isn’t a very good person or a very positive influence on his family.

Your cousin was “good” and “empathetic” cuz they were expected to be and would be “punished” if they were not. Not actually because they gave a crap about being a decent person.

They probably resented the fact that they had to be “good” and “compassionate” while toxic men got away with being horrible like it was nothing!

It probably created quite a complex they internalized, and regardless of your cousin’s past history with their gender, I am pretty sure they have probably always been somewhat mentally ill.

Being trans obviously is not a mental illness. However, a lot of trans and nonbinary people do tend to struggle with mental illness, more so than the general populace.

Your cousin wanted the power and ability to be a POS, and now they have it.

Whoever you thought your cousin was, that person just isn’t there anymore! As a matter of fact, if they are this sure about their gender, then that person they used to be probably never existed.

Unfortunately, a person can be trans and still be a crappy human being.

Awkward-Wave-5857 · 2024-07-26T09:00:59+00:00

I wonder if any of it is a form of overcompensation.

Solarom · 2024-07-26T09:28:26+00:00

Large amounts of testosterone (or any hormone really) can affect personality and behaviour in dramatic ways.

I'm a woman with PCOS, which was undiagnosed for many years. While it was running rampant (I had to go off the pill, which unbeknownst to me was keeping it in check) my testosterone levels got closer to that of a man, several times higher than what a female body is supposed to handle.

Before I thought to check my hormones, it's like for about a year I was a different person, displaying traits and inclinations that I never have previously, in addition to physical symptoms.

BananaHuszar · 2024-07-26T10:02:54+00:00

Is he on T recently? I heard from other trans men that T makes your thoughts get a little weird and the extra aggression takes you for a ride, because you weren't used to it so far.

NotCis_TM · 2024-07-26T12:58:05+00:00

Trans girl here. It seems like this guy is desperate for social status and acceptance and he is under the mistaken belief that oppressing others will grant him the place he wants on the social hierarchy.

I would first try to gather info from him. Pretend to be interested in the media he is consuming and write down names of the content creators he is watching.

Then look into these people and try to find "debunking" or critique videos that expose the problems in their content.

Finally go for a direct confrontation with the guy in question and tell him in no uncertain terms that he is hurting others and that his behaviour will cost him dearly and alienate him from people who truly love him.

If possible, bring examples of positive masculinity and tell him that if he wants to be a true man instead of a pawn he better ditch redpill ideology in favour of positive masculinities.

One thing I'm unsure of is whether or not to bring medieval chivalry into the conversation. Their rules are far from modern and progressive but they are usually a million times better than redpill ideology. Additionally, no one can deny that those medieval cavalry men were masculine men.

Snuffleupagus03 · 2024-07-25T22:08:37+00:00

He is indoctrinated into a cult. You could look at some resources to help people out of cults, but it is very very difficult and always has been.

Finding some better YouTubers and sending their videos might help. But my understanding that one of the most helpful things you can do is to try to maintain your connection and thread of relationship. In a way that remains safe and healthy for you of course.

oldcousingreg · 2024-07-26T15:38:03+00:00

I don’t know what the answer is, but I’m sorry you’re having to deal with it. He’s going down a rabbit hole that could get very dangerous for him. I hope he recognizes that and gets out before something bad happens.

Personal_Dirt3089 · 2024-07-26T01:15:11+00:00

It sounds like he is mostly a fan of authoritarianism.

Primary_Objective_24 · 2024-07-26T19:23:43+00:00

Well I think there’s a lot of trans men who feel the need to compensate their masculinity (just like a lot of cis men if not most) but I think for some trans men they have the extra pressure of proving themselves. The red pill entices men because it gives a false sense of power and dominance that a lot of men in society feel they do not have anymore and it’s especially enticing for minority men (men who are poor, of color, trans, etc). Your cousin is looking for that kind of power and validation as a man and the red pill fills him with that false sense of manhood despite the fact that most men in those circles will never see him as a man, even if he killed a lion with his bare hands was the richest man on earth and sleeps with 200 women a month, most of them will probably resent him more for it. I would give him the harsh reality on a cold plate. The red pill ideology is against his wishes and I would challenge him to look up how most red pill people see trans men and challenge him on his hypocrisy whenever he aligns himself with people who are against his existence. Better yet, tell him look at Blaire white’s comment section on twitter lol

RedOliphant · 2024-07-27T15:18:33+00:00

My first thought: He's overcompensating and trying to distance himself from everything that probably made him hate himself in the past. When you're a member of an out-group, you'd do anything to be part of the in-group. What I'm guessing is that as soon as he started "passing" he wanted to put an ocean between his new self and his old, suffering, self. It must feel almost like a matter of survival.

ComprehensiveHat8073 · 2024-07-28T01:19:31+00:00

He's probably taking too high of a testosterone dose. I've heard that makes FtM transpeople go a bit a crazy. Talk to him about his medications. Before he transitioned was he a self-hating female? He also might be experiencing trouble in dating. Cis-het women might not find him "passing" enough. Has he ever dated transwomen? What is his view of them? They might not find him passing enough either. Or does he date gay men? Gay men also might not find him passing enough. All of this outrage may be, at least in part, due to rejection. But it sounds like he has some really, really, really deep-seeded issues that go beyond the Red Pill, really. Is he in therapy?

SilverTango · 2024-07-25T22:07:54+00:00

Has this cousin transitioned from woman to man? I wasn’t sure of how you were using the pronouns. If so it sounds like there is a lot of self hatred going on there and a very deep need for therapy.

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Kateseesu · 2024-07-26T17:37:18+00:00

Does he take hormones? I’ve heard some trans men say they experience a lot of new feelings of aggression, I’ve even heard a similar story about someone experiencing misogynistic feelings, but they went away when he discontinued the testosterone.

It doesn’t excuse someone being an asshole. But it can be very difficult to deal with completely new feelings intensified by hormones, but people that experience this need to learn to deal with them in a different way.

DarkDrumpf · 2024-07-26T17:54:13+00:00

This is what we call chudmaxxing, is he/she part of a chudmaxxing group? discord?

Most_Pressure5038 · 2024-07-26T18:15:44+00:00

Good for him.hes waking up from the illusion

Honeyhoneyandco · 2024-07-27T18:59:00+00:00

I know it’s probably not the right thing to do… but literally telling them that they were born a woman should shut them up.

Title	My trans cousin is falling down the red pill rabbit hole and it's incredibly scary to watch.
Author	MangOrion2
Upvotes	43
Comments	39
Date	July 25, 2024 7:36 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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