Was the red pill so wrong or right?

Jthemovienerd · 2026-03-16T02:42:16+00:00

There are some factual things brought up, that's what hooks you. Taking care of yourself, have goals ect... But once they hook you, that's when it nosedives into being destructive. Hating women, looking down on anyone who doesnt follow their ways.

Lilly08 · 2026-03-16T03:48:46+00:00

Before red pill, it was just called self improvement. That's always been open and available to men. But red pillers use it as the hook to drag men into their cult (and, ironically, discourage them from taking personal responsibility for anything and therefore halting any further self development).

Alseebee · 2026-03-15T22:38:29+00:00

I think it’s 100% wrong because nothing good can come out of an ideology that relies on hate. Just curious what is the point supposed to be about redpill? Like what’s the main goal of it? (Genuine question)

ooa3603 · 2026-03-16T15:21:47+00:00

Originally the redpill was a essentially a self-help group for men who didn't have the social skills and emotional intelligence to read the non-verbal cues and unwritten knowledge of dating that most of society took for granted. Especially when it came to the unrealistic expectations of women many of these men had from not being able to understand that women were neither innately good or innately bad, just flawed humans like all of us. A lot of times these false expectations were both positive and negative but equally destructive because they weren't aligned with reality either way. The self-help amounted to basically improve your appearance and life to improve your confidence so that you can approach women. And for a time that did genuinely help a lot of dudes, so it grew. Especially since a lot of advice didn't delve into the nitty gritty of actually attracting women sexually.

But over time, the flaws in the redpill began to more apparent because there were inaccurate beliefs propping it up. While men were attracting more women, they weren't finding love. And the inability to navigate the complexities of dating with regards to actually building long term relationships with inaccurate beliefs led to bitterness and anger.

The problem is the redpill filters dating under a purely capitalistic paradigm. One where relationship dynamics are purely tit for tat and love and affection is distilled into business behavior. And that's just not how love works. That made the redpill and easy mark to be co-opted by conservative far-right groups. They would take the observations that were true in very specific conditions and twist them into generalities about all men and women and than make extreme and hateful conclusions based on those generalities. But instead of looking inwards to fix the problem by addressing the inaccurate expectations and beliefs, the anger was externalized and directed to women.

So the problem is many fold:

The redpill is not for building long term relationships, it's for hooking up/casual relationships
The redpill will attract a very specific type of woman, one that will be likely just as emotionally stunted as the man who uses it.
The redpill bases many of its assumptions and observations on values and beliefs on men and women that are either incomplete, innacurate or out right false

tsesarevichalexei · 2026-03-16T01:04:30+00:00

Some of the problems they point out are very real, but their solutions are unserious memes for the most part.

Aros125 · 2026-03-16T06:55:24+00:00

The red pill is simply an extreme simplification of those changes that began about 20 years ago. When society began to use the internet as a space to communicate and get to know each other. The arduous task of facing and interpret the problem that has led dating to be almost totally irl at 60% online today in the USA was left to teenagers. The same teenagers who later discovered that the rest of the percentage of encounters occurred in predisposed contexts such as friends and study/work. In short, they discovered that society had become so shielded that people interact because they know each other and do not interact to get to know each other. This reduced perceived risks, especially for women. No one has ever really addressed the problem. In many countries, men no longer approach women except in codified contexts; anything else is now easily perceived as harassment. These kids were told, “Go out and touch the grass,” not realizing that maybe only 10% of the grass is actually outside. If you take away social media, if you don't have a great work environment and few friends in a fairly depressed area of America or Europe, your chances are extremely slim. And in fact the first problem is not dating but loneliness itself. How did we address these problems? We didn't. We let a group of teenagers name their discomfort.

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Personal_Dirt3089 · 2026-03-15T22:47:11+00:00

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Title	Was the red pill so wrong or right?
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Date	March 15, 2026 10:12 PM UTC (4 months ago)
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