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[–]littleredpartydress_FDS Newbie31 points32 points33 points 6 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
I genuinely feel like we are in the transition where the “virgin” is being shamed more than the whore. I wish we could evolve past and accept all women despite whatever their boundaries on sex are
[–]pinklemon788 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
From the perspective of a 21 year old dating men 21-25 years old, it’s more like a catch 22. Sex= whore, but no sex= boring prude.
[–]littleredpartydress_FDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
we really can’t win, men switch up their minds on them all the time they go from she’s a prude who’s no fun to she’s respects herself. Or she’s a nasty whore who Sleeps with everyone to she’s fun wild and adventurous. Like can women just get peace in yknow making decisions about our own sexuality either way 😔
[–][deleted] 231 points232 points233 points 6 years ago (70 children) | Copy Link
Not really true. They shame women who have sexual boundaries more now. It's 2020 where pornified norms rule.
[–]illjustblowmyselfThrowaway Account224 points225 points226 points 6 years ago (47 children) | Copy Link
Read a comment the other day where a guy said no anal is a dealbreaker for a relationship. So you’re willing to break it off with a girl you have feelings for if she doesn’t want to do something most women don’t enjoy and that can be dangerous?
Wonder how many pickmes give into anal just to appease their men. It’s just sad
[–][deleted] 82 points83 points84 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, times have changed. Now men women to be sex objects and if we are not then we are treated like trash. Even média (full of "sex positive" crap) is on their side in this.
It's funny how all these libfem tweets about "slut shaming" NEVER mention how sexual boundaries are also shamed.
That's why I always remind that men degrade sexual boundaries much more, because the "they shame me because Im a slut :(" is not a fair description of how men view and treat women when it comes to sex.
[–]HornetKickFDS Newbie89 points90 points91 points 6 years ago (42 children) | Copy Link
Anal is not pleasurable for women; there are no pleasure receptors there. Men enjoy it more so than women, but I wonder if you tell a straight man to get with a gay man because they enjoy it more, what he would say.
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[–]HornetKickFDS Newbie38 points39 points40 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
APPLAUSE, APPLAUSE!
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Apprentice15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep.
[–]ParticularMonth0FDS Newbie20 points21 points22 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Women submitting to men is what has caused most of the messes in the world. Just sayin.’
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agree. Enabling pornsick males rather than leaving is the worst thing that kinkmeishas did. Now we got a bunch of fuckboys who are constantly protected by kinkmeishas and both hurt women as a class.
[–]luna_prismaticFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. For them, our pain is the kink.
[–]TheGhostProofBlanketFDS Newbie39 points40 points41 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I only let a guy do anal if I can peg him first. I'm not gonna like it anymore than him just cause I'm a woman. But if he'll give it a shot I'll give it a shot.
[–]passionatevirtuosoFDS Newbie16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Sorry but not true re: pleasure,but this doesn't take away from FDS/your main point.
( I have seen multiple comments from women who enjoy it. Let's not stop women from fully enjoying their own bodies and orgasms, and let's not shame women who orgasm differently.)
That said, whether women enjoy it or not does not take away AT ALL from the fact that anal as a sex act, for most men due to porn, has super toxic and gross ideas attached to it.
It is not "standard" and for the majority of men, anal sex is sold as a degrading/dominating thing and it is a major toxic reason they enjoy it.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Well these women hurt women as a class by giving pornsick males what they want, whether they enjoy it or not. And so end up putting a huge majority of women in uncomfortable situations where refusing anal has become impossible.
[–]passionatevirtuosoFDS Newbie11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No. It's not other women's job to teach grown ass men how to be decent. It is not any woman's.
We are not doing emotional labor for men any more and expecting other women to do so shifts the responsibility away from men.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But teaching them that expecting anal from women is the Norm and OK is OK ? Barf, you only teach them you what you like I see.
[–]passionatevirtuosoFDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So it is a woman's fault if a NV or LV guy believes anal is standard because she individually likes anal?
Aren't we discarding NV or LV men anyway?
Why do we care what NV or LV men think?
[–]tropicalsunshine88Pickmeisha™️11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link
Sorry but I’ve seen this comment before and it needs to stop. Women enjoy anal and I am one of them and I never had a pornsick boyfriend and I’m not a pick me I just enjoy anal and I highly doubt I’m the only one. Just because something isn’t enjoyable for you doesn’t mean other women don’t enjoy it.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well in the end enabling men into asking anal did us no good. Because they can only see orifices now. Just sayin.
[–]passionatevirtuosoFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Another woman-blaming comment
[–]passionatevirtuosoFDS Newbie0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
Thanks, was just posting a comment to this effect
[–]tropicalsunshine88Pickmeisha™️3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Ahahaha now we got some stupid tags next to our names for occasionally enjoying a sexual act this sub is fucking pathetic
[–]passionatevirtuosoFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Eh, they're just tags. FDS had labelled me as male at a certain point... I can't take this stuff seriously.
Your comment needed to be posted and amplified, because we're not alone. See the upvotes ... Thanks, sis :)
[–]tropicalsunshine88Pickmeisha™️5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol I’m actually laughing at this it’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen, apparently I’m leaving pornsick pigs behind for other women to clean up 😂
[–]tropicalsunshine88Pickmeisha™️4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True that lol I’ll never understand getting upset because someone liked something different to you I’ll never get it.
[–]tropicalsunshine88Pickmeisha™️8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
No worries, it’s a bit annoying I mean I love this sub and it’s helped me a lot but we shouldn’t be grouping women in together or accusing them of being “ pick mes “ because they enjoy certain things sexually
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
Probably because women are treated like trash by pornsick boyfriend and you denying that your bf were pornsick and implying they were good men is even more delusional. There are lots of sub reddit that push anal as an obligation and "cool thing" you should go there.
[–]passionatevirtuosoFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She didn't say any of those things.
[–]tropicalsunshine88Pickmeisha™️3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Who’s pushing anal? Show me on my comment history where I’ve ever pushed it? And I was the one who suggested it because women like DIFFERENT things if you don’t enjoy it that’s absolutely fine but getting all defensive because some women do is just weird
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
As expected you did not talk about sexual coercion, porn norms, objectification or anything interesting, just "it's normal because I like it". But keep enabling pornsick males if that's your thing. Now other women will have to clean the pigs you leave behind as usual.
[–]tropicalsunshine88Pickmeisha™️3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Lol show me where I said it’s normal because I like it? Wow some of you are just angry and it’s really really fucking weird?Where do you see me pushing it on other women? Where do you see me saying I’m better than other women because I like it? Where do you see me suggesting it to other women? Shut the whole way the fuck up
[–]tropicalsunshine88Pickmeisha™️3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Also as expected? What part of you knows me or anything about me? I spoke about the subject at hand die mad about it
[–]passionatevirtuosoFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Again, she didn't say that stuff, either.
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[–]pacachanFDS Newbie92 points93 points94 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Throwback to when I was a virgin and got shamed on a date for "being weird about sex". He tried making me feel like I wasn't normal or ultra-prudish for not wanting to sleep with a guy I barely knew a few dates in. And that was in like, 2014. This shit isn't new.
[–][deleted] 59 points60 points61 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Same, one of my ex tried to gaslight me for not sleeping around. He would "everyone sleeps around wtf is wrong with you ???".
[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
EXACTLY !
[–]AyemHerselfRuthless Strategist83 points84 points85 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
It's a mix of both. They shame women for being prudes, and do whatever they can to ensure the woman who has lots of consensual sex stays in her place as a fucktoy.
[–][deleted] 33 points34 points35 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Kinda agree, except that women who act like porn stars are more respected and considered more valid, whereas other women dont exist anymore (even if they too have a sexuality).
Dudes are more likely to throw a fist if their partner is not pornified enough than the opposite.
And all this sex positive sub culture empowered one type of sexuality only.
There is an Im balance clearly.
[–]AyemHerselfRuthless Strategist68 points69 points70 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
There is a flip side to that culture. The pornified woman can never revert to being a respected woman in a relationship. It may not manifest right away, but look at all the posts on Reddit about a woman who had a wild past and just wants to be loved in her current relationship, and she'll do whatever makes her man happy in bed, and yet he'll still turn to porn or cheat because the fantasy is so much better. It's the Madonna/whore complex in action.
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
IDK, but it seems that these women still date dudes who want stuff like anal (ie these hundreds of posts titled "my bf (35)wants me (f27) to have anal because I had anal before but dont want anymore") they want to change but still pick fuckboys to date. It is like a cognitive dissonance, and shows that even dudes who claim to want to à loving relationships still want porn acts and throw a fist if there is a sexual boundary.
[–]AyemHerselfRuthless Strategist44 points45 points46 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
" they want to change but still pick fuckboys to date."
Well it's not like every guy advertises their fuckboy nature up front. How many stories do you see here about women who think they landed a decent, respectable man and then he turns around and demands to use her sexually? Or cheats?
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My point was that they cry on reddit but still stay with the dude despite him pressuring her to be his little porn star. At some point it is a choice on their part when they still tolerate such behavior, which is probably due to the fact that when they slept around they never questioned fuckboys and thus never see anything wrong with them anyways. They enable such men (who often force women to perform sexual acts they dont want under the excuse that "other women did it") then are surprised these men only see orifices. It's not about men being manipulative , it's them being just dishonest and hypocrites.
[–]passionatevirtuosoFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dear God, that is really bad.
Am so sorry and I am glad I moved out of the US. (I am assuming this is America... But do correct me.)
[–]meecy166FDS Apprentice38 points39 points40 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I agree even other women shame prudes, I don’t know if it is where I live but all the single girls I know have men on rotation and are constantly sleeping with different guys. My friend has a guy she plans to marry waiting for her back home while she sleeps with different guys and he knows she told him and he accepts it, even though he is super religious. Sex positivity and sleeping around is very in with gen z
[–][deleted] 25 points26 points27 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep, this aint 2002 anymore. So libfem need to stop acting like "slut shaming" is the only way both women and men shame and degrade women
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Apprentice8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Truth.
[–]lavyebelFDS Newbie23 points24 points25 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nah, the thing is that men shame women that refuse to have sex with them. If she's "prude" then they may think she's traditional or something, but a woman that has/had a lot of partners and tell them no is the most offensive think they can experience for their fragile masculinity.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tell that to fuckboys who enjoy that.
[–]TheSatanicVeganFDS Newbie12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I say it is both.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Agreed, we can never win with them.
[–]nopuedeser818FDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Truth! We can't win, and when they're this hypocritical and selfish, it's best just to retreat and leave them to their porn or whatever. The heck with 'em!
[–]VaporwaveVampirePickmeisha™️1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They shame both
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No they encourage women to sleep around because it benefits them and thus shame boundaries.
[–]Blacklea20FDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s undeniable. I wonder what the various justifications would be if we were to hear them.
[–]meecy166FDS Apprentice54 points55 points56 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Men protect and other men, I guess they can only empathize with each other
[–]Gaki-fan-too12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It depends. They mostly protect men who are the same as them. Any other man is "bad" in their eyes.
It's an old tactic to keep women away from the "others".
It's all projection.
[–]curlygirl507FDS Apprentice55 points56 points57 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Oh yeah, 100%. I'm sure a lot of them congratulate each other for rape.
[–]nopuedeser818FDS Newbie44 points45 points46 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
They refuse to see most coerced or forced sex acts as rape. "She lied." "If she went to his house she should have known she was going to be having sex." "Why didn't she go to the police immediately?" (when we know how badly that can go), "He's a good-looking/rich guy, he could get any woman he wanted, therefore it couldn't be rape" and so forth. If she's got bruises and scrapes then they might believe she was raped, but anything less? It didn't happen.
[–]Gaki-fan-too35 points36 points37 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Rape to men is a man of a different ethnicity who is a stranger to the woman who jumped out of the bushes and beat her up.
In any other scenario, they'll defend the rapist.
[–]nopuedeser818FDS Newbie26 points27 points28 points 6 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Sadly, that is often the case. (Edit: Among scrotes, anyway. High-quality men understand that a lack of bruises and scratches doesn't necessarily mean a rape didn't occur.)
I would say that if she has bruises and cuts and reports the rape immediately, and especially if the man is a stranger to her, then many men will believe it is rape. If the rapist is of different ethnicity, as you say, that seals the deal. They'll have no trouble believing her.
They may also still believe it is rape if it is a man she knew (but she has bruises and cuts).
But without the bruises and cuts, they are far, far less likely to believe her. Or, they'll "believe" her but still blame her. "You should have known" and "why didn't you do this...?"
Some scrotes claim that 90% of rape claims are lies. Yet the evidence is overwhelmingly saying the opposite. Making a false rape claim is a very serious (and unforgivable!) thing to do, so I'm not making light of it when it happens. But there's no way that 90% of the women who claim rape are lying. It's more like, a very high percentage of women don't make any claims at all, and their rapists got off scot-free.
[–]Gaki-fan-too18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Some scrotes claim that 90% of rape claims are lies.
I heard of that too. Their proof came from one police stations investigation on rape claims and it turned out the majority were false.
So now most rapes are false because of one police stations report.
They try so hard to discredit women. That's one of the ways they keep rape culture alive.
[–]nopuedeser818FDS Newbie18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have come to the conclusion that most of the manosphere is very angry that women are allowed to say no to them.
[–]Gaki-fan-too19 points20 points21 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lies were not told.
Men only care about things that affect them. They're insecure and know a woman who's slept with different men will compare their size to his.
Rape will probably never register on their radar, especially when they say B's things like: "only 0.000000001% of men are rapists".
I’m happy that we have moved passed slut shaming. When I was young I was heavily slut shamed and I was not very sexually active at all. It hurt. I was happy when the lib fems started spreading their message and it gained mainstream attention. However I think the movement and feminism as a whole has just been bastardized. Allowing myself to be disrespected and exploited is not feminism. Encouraging women to participate in sex work is not feminism. A woman should be allowed to make her own sexual choices in the same way a man can but women should not be coerced into disregarding boundaries and being exploited in any way. Sex work is not for everyone. Everyone is not emotionally equipped to be a sex worker. If you choose that path most likely you will be a sex worker for life. Women just have to truly understand the choices we’re making as well as the ramifications. If a woman has taken all of this into consideration I see no issue with her choice.
[–]pinklemon782 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Slut shaming is definitely still alive and well. I see men call women used good sluts all of the time for the most unrelated reasons. A man I rejected told me that I’m a whore based off of the fact that I have Instagram photos of myself in a swimsuit yesterday.
[–]farmer-boy-930 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've only ever seen incels, women of any type and religious men shame women for having lots of sex. Normal men don't go around bashing the women they get laid with.
[–]comatize20380 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s all from a point of selfishness. we want whats best for us no matter how morality incorrect or backwards it is.
[–]ScarletFate779FDS Newbie[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Thank you u/leia_bryant it’s my first
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Your welcome
[–]ScarletFate779FDS Newbie[S] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’ve actually had personal experience with this regarding my two sisters and how differently my father treated me so thank you.
[–]Leia_Bryant1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've had personal experience seeing women slut shamed far more than men were shame for bad behavior. I'm ex-christian specifically ex-NIFB.
[–]cheeseandnachos0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why dont we start shaming them instead??
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