AWALT

Dan_Vanedzin · 2018-11-08T03:20:28+00:00

Women don't love you. Women love what you are doing. Trust me.

That's why the scrawny, nerdy boy in high school get bullied, even teased by girls, but when that same boy becomes stable, financially and mentally, guess who want to reconnect, saying that they are at the time "immature", etc. etc.....

Fuck that shit. Go your own way.

Docbear64 · 2018-11-08T02:01:48+00:00

They used to tell me that before I lost weight, that shit made me resentful as hell. I'm not good enough today but will be when these whores are all used up? That's fucking bullshit.

GlobalAsshat · 2018-11-08T01:24:23+00:00

Good post. Deserves to be "hot" so lets upvote. It's always good to get information right from the horse's mouth. This is yet another example of "alpha fucks, beta bucks" in action, and this one basically admits we men should be grateful to get them after they've spent their 20's having sex with over 100 men. No thanks, guys. You know the drill.

The more you guys wake up other (unaware) blue pills, the less these women will get validation and the quicker we can get that nice collapse of western civilization we all want as men basically "quit" participating in the system, thus bankrupting it and the social programs these women rely on. ;)

CastandRefused · 2018-11-08T02:32:44+00:00

We live in a women worshipping society that doesn't care about the average man. And when these thots start looking to "settle down" good decent guys like us won't be around for them.

DangZagnut · 2018-11-08T01:25:59+00:00

Who cares what they think? If their mouths are open and audible noises are emerging, it's bullshit.

Ignore any words they manage to form, focus on their actions, that shows what the lies are.

I don't care what women did in their past, that's their business. I do know that I won't give them any money or quarter, and that's my business. No one is entitled to anything, and they sure as fuck aren't entitled to anything of mine.

Why_should_I_mayne · 2018-11-08T02:52:15+00:00

These women get so triggered if you say "no hymen no diamond". Due to my Biblical beliefs, I would never even consider entering a relationship with a woman who isn't a virgin.

rationed_male · 2018-11-08T02:26:03+00:00

"Oxygen thieves" excellent expression.

Well done on choosing to gyow... disregard these entitled solipsistic females; and focus on acquiring wealth and knowledge

DocZTheRockstar · 2018-11-08T03:20:53+00:00

Women have NO BUSINESS judging men. They are already insecure, so how can they judge you? They have no real sense of righteousness nor honor. These are male traits.

A man can shape and forge himself. It is an honor to be a man itself. Forget these women as they will never change. YOU DESERVE BETTER. You as a man who has went through so much pain and trials deserves BETTER than a selfish woman. Most women are jealous and mad of the men who have woken up and who keep making themselves better, because now we know how to handle them and the games don't work. We are strong. Women will NEVER understand the battles and trials of manhood. I recently got in a wreck that could have ended my life and at the same time, I was very interested in a women. She didn't give a crap about me. She just wanted attention and validation then she moved.

Don't count on them to be by your side when the tough gets going. They only show up when you have something to offer. Especially the ones who are attractive.

cleats4u · 2018-11-08T03:33:35+00:00

The 80/20 rule. 80% of the women chase 20% of the men. Which means 80% of us are not "good enough" for them. As we drop out worse men become the top 20% and the pool of men shrinks even more. Soon somebody that looks like Austin Powers really will be saying to them...do I make you horny baby! And even that fucking guy will be Red pilled. Lol.

VenetianCares · 2018-11-08T03:40:39+00:00

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Redshirt02 · 2018-11-08T02:53:26+00:00

23 with a master's and a job, I would've killed to be where you're at now when I was that young.

One advise, don't let the rejection by women get to you. I know I took it personally when I was in my 20s. Then I crossed into 30s... they're right when they say 'if you play your cards right, your 30s are like your 20s, but with money.' If you haven't seen Terrence Popp's slingback effect episode on youtube, I recommend watching it. It's absolutely right. The "hi's" and "remember me?" messages, "how are you these days?"...

It was then I realized I vastly over-inflated the worth of the pussy.

chaseexcellence · 2018-11-08T04:03:56+00:00

You noticed the manipulation tatic of the 30 yr old woman. Good job. Most guys do not notice those things. I realized this when I was younger. Become rich and enjoy your money. You can always join a sugar baby website and be a chad to those girls. Those girls will never love you, but you can use them for fun. Or you can just go your own way. Good job buddy.

GiitaFan9 · 2018-11-08T03:02:52+00:00

That woman was right in a way, it’s gonna be a good thing that later down the road those women will be piling up at your footsteps. It’ll be fun for you to turn all of them away since they’ll be fat single mothers looking to “settle down” once and for all with some poor simp.

GYOW

thetempleofapollo · 2018-11-08T04:09:48+00:00

I didn’t work hard to settle for leftovers

Curious_Oogway · 2018-11-08T02:11:36+00:00

Why have you been waiting till 100 rejections? What if the 101th comforts your emotional needs and massages the right strings? Won’t you feel like finding your unicorn?.....As long as you seek female validation, you are not liberated.

C_Czar50 · 2018-11-08T04:45:06+00:00

Stay in the gym, my coach told me once “if you look good, she looks long”

Not that you should be trying to get their attention, because believe me, you won’t have to. At that point it’s nice to hit’em with the ol’ rail-and-bail for some old fashioned karmic justice.

Fuck all these hoes

Highborn_Hellest · 2018-11-08T06:29:46+00:00

My whole life I've wanted to let myself be vulnerable

That's why they didn't give 2 shits about you

gimme_wood · 2018-11-08T05:04:44+00:00

I was like you and was told the EXACT SAME THING at about 20 years old. Insulting ain't it? I worked hard, developed my skillset, traveled around the world, have money in the bank, and slept with multiple HB8-9 escorts. The thots who ignored me are any combination of fat, cellulite-ridden, broke, alcoholic, lonely, single moms, and/or boring AF. #winning

RoboMandrake · 2018-11-08T06:07:48+00:00

Awhile ago I came to the realization that, on balance, women have been a major disappointment. I still have the same inner happy me I've had all along. I had thought women would have had the potential to be similar in capabilities to a man, though in a complimentary feminine way. Turns out they are wired in a fundamentally different manner to ourselves. Exploitation of male sex drive to siphon off resources is standard operating procedure. Playing the part of the perfect partner is a ploy to lure the 'target' to the trap. The great sex along with the rest of the bait is dispensed with once the trap has been closed. At what point this actually occurs seems to vary greatly. Could be almost immediately after the wedding, could be after a first child, could even be just a few weeks or months depending on the 'game-face' of the predator.

Men want sex, women want cash and prizes. That can work out when the man pledges his protection and support while the woman pledges her supporting role, which 'should' include a great deal of kindness and appreciation for all the man brings to the table - and that would include a clear and heartfelt view of sex being pretty much all about the man. Aside from that and financial matters, most everything else can pretty much be about her. That's fine. Its actually phenomenal how much triviality and nonsense can be overlooked by a man when he is having his sexual fill along with it. But...these days, we don't get anything like this.

So yes, women have turned out to be quite a disappointment. I had been led by all manners of media to believe them to be capable of so much better. But on a brighter note, the female outrageousness has now become so brazen that its presence is less invisible than before, making it more likely to be avoidable. Thus MGTOW.

In my case, its taken nearly a year to arrive at a significantly cooled acceptance of the red pill over this. Its good. I've become less diplomatic and more forceful in saying what I really think to them far more often.

It is female nature to negotiate life in this manner. Males are inclined to produce and protect. Theoretically, a woman could be a fabulously wonderful support for a man. But, unfortunately, they evolved to be the fraudulent prostitutes, cold and calculating, that we have in the present world. Nice idea, but they really are not worthy of all that men have to give.

Dahcpmis · 2018-11-08T05:39:17+00:00

Social media is a disease. Good riddens

Pioustarcraft · 2018-11-08T06:38:01+00:00

When they are young, they are interrested only in the beauty, popularity,... basicly, they dream aboyt Mr. Perfect with an attitude. They are not looking for a stable and risk-free relationship.
At school, they will be looking for a guy that will skip school with them to do something... but later in life, they don't want someone who will skip work and maybe get fired because they aim at financial stability for the years to come. They look for someone that has a good job and that will not run away with a younger and more beautifull girl leaving them in a difficult situation. This is why, if you have a "safe" image when you are young, you're not interresting...
There was a stats from OK Cupid yearly blog basicly saying that before mid-30s, early 40s, the men were the ones sending the first message to the women to meet them wut after the 35s-40s, it reversed and the women were the ones chassing after the men by sending the first messages.
They hot the wall, they might have divorced Chad and are now looking of inssurance for their 40s to 80s and this is where a guy that seems faithful, with a good job, that might not be the most beautiful on earth will be interresting for them...

Lavendercrimson12 · 2018-11-08T04:15:32+00:00

I'm curious as to the range of men a women could have slept with and you guys would see it as acceptable.

Of course this is considering your personal take on things, as I realize many of us have no desire to be in a relationship.

The girl I was with most recently had been with the same number of people as I had, and I felt she was truthful as I've known her and her behavior, socially speaking, for years.

That number is average for our age, according to several studies.

I felt fine with it. I've had women be surprise that I've had x number of partners, as I am not a player or ladies man by any means. Prior to going my own way, I still had the belief in putting minimal effort into getting girls, and requiring strong indicators of interest before making my own desires known to her.

So, is it 5? 10? 20? An equal or lesser number than you yourself have?

While it is known that plenty of women would lie about this if asked, I would personally request an STD test if she said more than 10, but I suppose that's pretty arbitrary. If she said 25 or 30 I would consider that a deal breaker for even casual hookup, excepting extreme circumstances like perfect 10, wants to do what I like doing, submissive, had her own money, STD testing, etc.

Roastie_haiku_bot · 2018-11-08T04:27:50+00:00

That 'fall for a beautiful lady' shit only works in movies, boyo. LDAR.

jerry408 · 2018-11-08T04:42:27+00:00

Put it this way. When your young 16-30 and aren’t attractive. You usually are smart. When your average or even ugly you don’t get to be with the chicks you want. Just how it goes in America. You will get chicks when your old and the bitches have fucked everyone out there. Just how it goes lmao

MrStokeMan · 2018-11-08T04:51:59+00:00

100% agree with you. I'm also done with "the chase". That's why we gravitated to going our own way. I think most of us are mgtow for self-benefit. It has little to do with women at this point. Simple fact is, the majority of modern women, are worthless to a man with around respect and dignity

Hot5oup · 2018-11-08T05:52:55+00:00

While I emphasize with what you’re experiencing, this isn’t the essence of mgtow. It’s more of an incel rant. Incels and mgtow are fundamentally different and shouldn’t be lumped together

PubliusVirgilius · 2018-11-08T13:10:25+00:00

In order to hook up and be "succesful" in this game, you need to have the looks of Chad. And Chads are assholes, vecause women are ready to allow them to behave this way. People asume your personality and character from your looks, and if you dont act the way, they expect you, they get angry.

Of course our society tries to brainwash men amd says everything is about personality, confidence, bla bla bla. No, it isnt.

But its a blessing in disguise ro not have the looks of Chad. Because Chad also gets deceived and destroyed by women in the end.

Dont forget also, that the 20s are the hardest time for a men. Men dont reach their prime in their 20s. All the women that rejected you will have celulites and be fat in 10, 15 years.

riskywiskey · 2018-11-08T05:20:16+00:00

I'm in a similar position. Just your head down and get money, lift weights and become a boss. You'll get the last laugg

Cest7 · 2018-11-08T07:25:59+00:00

https://media.makeameme.org/created/disregard-wenches-acquire.jpg

5hubham · 2018-11-08T07:31:50+00:00

My friends bullied me for not showing much interest in the girls in my highschool. They said I had no goals in life and that I was douche for not accepting a proposal.

To be honest my mom warned me about girls and women before high school. She didn't wanted me to get hurt. In a way she was trying to protect me. Which led me to not having much experience with ladies. I used to regret not being like the other guys but now after graduation I think I am happy.

Seeing the other guys getting dumped as they leave for college really made me question does love exist. I am still young and there is still a desire but after finding this community. I guess I will redirect that desire into something productive.

thecherry94 · 2018-11-08T07:32:01+00:00

Same age, similar situation. The best revenge is living well, brother. Live better than them all.

eduardkoopman · 2018-11-08T07:53:35+00:00

Wow, so many paralels for me. It's like reading about my own life. With the only difference is that you were 8 years quicker/ahead of me in understanding.

she essentially told me that I'm not the kind of guy that young girls like.

Same happened to me.
I considered it a big insult. It's a big insult
Because what I liked the most/best/preferably in the past; were young women.
It really triggered me, to prove differently. To show myself, I could have it if i wanted it. to show myself, I'm not afailure, and I can achieve, get and have what i want.
But then I noticed after some time, it (dating with (young) women) is not really satisfying and thus not worth the effort, time, energy, money, etc.. And now i focus on early retirement (as an option), enjoying life, and doing things I find meaningfull and purposefull.

It's like saying. To a man whom really wants to have a ferrari. You will/can never have a Ferrari (aka: because you ar not .... (good).... enough; loser).

smfuel87 · 2018-11-08T10:02:09+00:00

Yeah, girls never want to be judged for being whores. That would be too inconvenient for their delicate sensibilities. You took the red pill kid. Now get a vasectomy, hone your attitude, stack that cash up and, as a man who is paying close to 20 years of child support that amounts to 45% of my after tax income to an ex wife and her unemployed husband for my two children, i will advise you with every fiber of my being, never ever EVER EVER ever, ever...ever get married. She won't think of you with the exception of where her check is and the government will absolutely evicerate you with their family court goons.

Mr_Lonesome · 2018-11-08T12:58:55+00:00

You, sir, are the new face of MGTOW (the nouveau MGTOW) at least in the post-divorce age. You aren't the Chads or Chadlites that witnessed female nature directly. You are the rest of us Joes, the bottom 80%, who faced rejections, flakes, disses and had to learn female nature from sidelines and shrugged off this lopsided, diseased, cucked, resource trade-off game for something else. We thank you for standing up for us.

oldrunnerguy · 2018-11-08T16:55:06+00:00

One thing that resonates in your post is something that Rollo Tomassi, author of "The Rational Male" consistently relates. Hypergamy doesn't care. Even 30 years ago when I was hitting the dating scene, the same was true. Women didn't want to settle for you until they started heading towards 30. Once they pumped a kid out with some asshole, had stretch marks, started to gain weight and couldn't support themselves, then it was your "manly duty" to accept them with all their defects and support their sorry asses. Unfortunately, I was stupid enough to drink that Kool-Aid and marry someone like that, thinking that maybe it was the only way I could have someone in my life.

As soon as I got married to her, the sex went away and the bitching started. And it never improves because they constantly "compare" you to their previous lover and you can't meet their standards. When women act angry at you all the time, it is because you were not their first choice. I put with 20+ years of that bullshit (having come from a close knit family with traditional values). Don't be that chump. Just focus on yourself and what you want. For men to thrive and succeed, MGTOW makes so much more sense these days. Good luck brother!!

Lonewolf348 · 2018-11-08T13:28:26+00:00

I'm 17. Can confirm awalt is true af due to my girl "friends" always asking me for shit and then they expect me not to ask for anything back. Luckily this sub has helped me notice this resource acquiring behavior and I've "trained" 2 of them to always give something back, one actually gives more than she takes. :-)

bouldurer · 2018-11-08T05:51:35+00:00

Did you finish your masters early? If so, congrats.

Shimakaze4 · 2018-11-08T05:51:42+00:00

I've seen this happen to a couple of my friends. One guy who is a nice bloke I think didn't do too well with the ladies, even though he's not bad looking, hes just 5'6 and pretty bald. He married a girl he met on some dating site that already has a kid and who I'm sure rode the CC until she found him. Sad thing is he's pretty well off, has a decent paying job and owns several properties. Another was forced to give up his home business and get a regular job because of his missus, who also has a kid at like 20 (is now the wrong side of 30) and now has twins with her. Guys, don't be Captain Save-A-Hoe.

Domunique · 2018-11-08T06:57:20+00:00

good man.

jihndosh · 2018-11-08T07:22:24+00:00

finish master at 23 waaat?

saltycaramel- · 2018-11-08T07:49:36+00:00

What's sad is my mother and sister told me the same thing growing up when I was having a hard time with girls.

bfte2 · 2018-11-08T07:54:00+00:00

The 30yo hag was shaming you because she was a single mother trying to settle, and once again, got C-BLOCKED by MGTOW.

I_am_Groot69 · 2018-11-08T10:00:03+00:00

Master is 1 year for you?

I_ysk · 2018-11-08T11:31:52+00:00

She also said that I "shouldn't be so judgmental" about girls who have been with 100s of guys in their lifetime, and that I should just settle for them because clearly I can't get the younger, "less experienced" girls.

Sounds like a personal agenda to me...

I will never be the cuck to these useless whores.

...that gladly didn't work out the way she wanted :D

captainsaveahoe69 · 2018-11-08T12:43:25+00:00

You were born in to the disposable class, we all were, even Chad.

eddiexmercury · 2018-11-08T13:13:23+00:00

You sound totally stable and not dangerous at all.

skymningwolf · 2018-11-08T13:13:55+00:00

Women sometimes just feel like they can bully anyone around, especially with the way society is nowadays. May I ask what you studied? Congrats on finishing your degree and getting a job.

2018-11-08T13:20:42+00:00

Right bro! Screw them.

Now you get to work and get filthy rich.

GoDuke2018 · 2018-11-08T13:38:26+00:00

I just don't see any benefit at all in today's sjw feminists poundmetoo society to ever "marry" or "date". Even looking at or complimenting them today is "rape" if you are not Chad or Tyrone Thundercock...

douchabag_dan · 2018-11-08T13:59:08+00:00

The average 18 year old hooker in Southeast Asia is 10 times hotter than the homecoming queen in your high school. Costs 40$ for a night.

2018-11-08T14:19:25+00:00

liberte! vive la resistance!

Tacarmato · 2018-11-08T14:21:37+00:00

They will eventually hit the wall and realize.

Naz-One · 2018-11-08T14:40:53+00:00

It's good to see that more and more men are waking up at a younger age.

robowriter · 2018-11-08T15:05:56+00:00

It's not you don't take it personally. Your doing the right thing and you came to the right place. Become excellent at what you do, make funtime money and the world is yours.

Strangely enough, with mgtow I never feel alone. Ever. What a relief.

2018-11-08T15:16:04+00:00

Ahh so you've experienced the Chad dynamic first hand, with confirmation from the other side. For blue pilled men, this sucks.

Afab67 · 2018-11-08T18:25:07+00:00

" I'm the guy who girls will look to when I'm older, so they can "settle down" with me. " I heard precisely the same thing and it turns my heart to ice every time I hear it. Spare yourself. Women dug the hole, they filled it with water, let them roll in it.

renegatta · 2018-11-08T19:05:31+00:00

Guys! Give them nothing.

tramese · 2018-11-08T20:25:39+00:00

I've had standards for women up to this point, and I finally learned that none of them will ever meet mine.

aka MGTOW. welcome bro

NotMyWomen · 2018-11-08T21:59:34+00:00

Oxygen thieves

Lel.

Ez’d.

MuleFool42 · 2018-11-08T22:07:16+00:00

When you're financially stable then you'll also be attractive to young women, not just women your own age. So you can work that to your advantage by having some short term, uncommitted, satisfaction, if you want.

Women leverage their sexuality to have lots of men and to manipulate men from 16-29 or so, but now that you're successful, the tables will start to turn. So don't feel bad about taking advantage of your situation if younger women start hitting you up. Just don't move in with them or marry them. Mostly, they'll have an ulterior motive, but they don't need to know that you're not thinking of them as marriage material. Let them think that. And if they realize that and shame you for it, then they don't understand that they were basically doing the same thing when they were young when they could have whatever variety that they wanted. It's the same thing, so don't be ashamed for using them the way that they used other men when they were young.

AdmirableBlackberry · 2018-11-08T23:13:14+00:00

So this is where the incels hide nowadays ?

J_the_Assassin · 2018-11-09T06:55:00+00:00

Sounds like the old woman was trying to trap you into settling down for her

MadPreacher1AD · 2018-11-08T13:19:28+00:00

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NabeenYnwa · 2018-11-08T14:53:22+00:00

Awalt means?

Tieflingering · 2018-11-08T06:21:13+00:00

Serious question: you say you’re mentally and financially stable, but you also only want a beautiful girl to fall in love with. Why are you only chasing the young hot girls? Why not try for a more homely girl who offers what you want?

Do you think men can only be happy with a young, beautiful woman? Do you think you can only be happy with a young, beautiful woman? If so, what do you think will happen once she ages and gets wrinkles? Will you still love her?

I’m genuinely trying to understand you. Thanks.

Title	AWALT
Author	happilynotmarried
Upvotes	678
Comments	147
Date	November 8, 2018 1:15 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/9v5hyd/awalt/
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