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[–]GamingYourMom239 points240 points241 points 7 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link
What kind of ultimatum is that? I'll take divorce and leave the country for a thousand, Alec.
[–]Bestoftherest22278 points79 points80 points 7 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
Lets be honest brothers, in this situation the female and male have been married long enough for the female to leverage the states power.
This is why I have trouble calling all men mentioned in these types of articles as "cucks." If I was married for 10 years and the female has 100% legal right to my, social security, 401k, company retirement, personal investments, home, cars, and other shit I may just not give to fucks if my wife is on tinder whoring it up.
Its a fucked up situation but when faced with the power of legal state enforced rape I may just have to deal with it. To me a true cuck is a man who does it without any form of coercion.
I suspect this is why we're seeing so many Cuckold articles, most of the women have been married long enough to have the governments big dick rape the male if he doesn't let other men fuck his wife.
No fault divorce is a woman's best friend, its the perfect legal monkey branch and cuckolding tool in a married woman's arsenal.
[–]MuchIndependence23 points24 points25 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
These are basically your two only options:
[–]_Anarchon_21 points22 points23 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I think most of what you said is inspired and enlightened.
However, 'no fault divorce' isn't the problem per se. The government giving her all your stuff she didn't earn is, regardless of if the divorce is no-fault or otherwise.
[–]spiesvsmercs10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Right.
Men are willing to compromise their happiness to try to make women happy: let them be homemakers etc...
The State has forced us to say, "Fuck your happiness." It's the only sane choice.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is a big mistake to compromise your aspirations and life goals for a woman's happiness. She will be less attracted to you for it.
[–]_Last_Man_Standing_17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]deathtocontrollers2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
WINNING!
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That’s what my Exwife did. I said no but she cheated anyway.
[–]OMSnow4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hope you got out of it strong brother. That is fucked up.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
The moment you signed the marriage contract you became her slave and she knows it. They all do, which is why they all push for marriage. That is the whole point of marriage as far as a woman is concerned: to 'catch' the man in the same manner in which you would 'catch' a slave.
After the marriage contract is signed, she doesn't really have to care about what the man wants, though she may tactically pretend to for a while since it is smarter to place the yoke on the man's back slowly and gently. She only has to stay with the guy for long enough for his assets to grow, so that she can maximize her gains in divorce. If the guy accepts the position of total simp, then she will of course cheat on him, since she now has a personal slave and she can keep living her life while he works for her. If he fights to retain some measure of dignity, autonomy or independence, then she will still cheat on him while biding her time and planning carefully for the divorce.
Look at it from the perspective of women. Blue pill men are total suckers and there is a sucker being born every minute. Moreover, all corporations, the goverment, the society at large as well as mass culture are on her side. So are the educational system and the mainstream media and so is the law. Every woman knows this and if any of them didn't figure it out from a young age (for example, by watching the trivial and blatant way in which her mother manipulates her father) then she will be taught how the world works by the 'sisterhood' both through personal interactions and in internet forums. If you put yourself in the shoes of a woman, then you can see how pathetic and ridiculous most men really are, thinking that they are in charge when in fact they are idiots who can be controlled trivially by manipulating their sex drives, idealized mother image and egos.
On the other hand, there are always the Chads (who are trouble and loosers but they are good looking and a good, exciting f**ck) and the Alphas (who are unattainable for most women and who are the real challenge for them, since they are attractive as f**ck but they cannot be easily manipulated). But the Alphas are very, very few nowadays and most of them are going MGTOW (though they sometimes selectively engage with higher quality women for sex). This is what men are up against in this degenerate society.
One thing that men could benefit from is to look more deeply into the experiences of Chads and Alphas, since those men are the most aware of the depravity of female nature. The red pill is a bit skewed toward the dissapointment of former Betas who are waking up, but who still retain some level of idealization of female nature.
[–]VisibleTheory3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah hopefully some other dude will swoon her heart/pussy and she leaves you peacefully on her own accord.
[–]throwaway261800812 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The state can give them social security, 401k and company retirement????????
[–]Bestoftherest2225 points6 points7 points 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
The state gives them 50% of what you own, up to and including all retirement packages a man has.
[–]Methodless3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And a piece of your future income too
[–]teslaistheshit1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Massive truth here. I can attest as my ex changed dramatically when she qualified for alimony. It's a suckers game or long con. The state knows it and females talk. No fucking way I'm letting my sons go through life without these hard truths.
[–]sh0t0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
facts
RIP bros in California
[–]figyg6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I found a guy who was open about his wife doing this to him on /r/depression earlier. I berated him (as he deserved), but my comments were deleted. I don't particularly want to be banned from there, so I let it be.
Dude was nihilistic as fuck, with posts in /r/politics and /r/atheism. It's scary to believe that guys like this walk among us. Thank God lefties don't have guns 🙏
[–]TheNewAge21473 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's extremely sad that you had to delete a comment that was meant to bring light to this dark false world. People are pussies when it comes to this regard. They are always afraid of hearing the provocative words fearing that it would matter their own dream world. But reality doesn't care. The man will continue to be fucked and cucked and reduced to but a spec of left over scum of his former self unless he faces the truth and fights for it. Most people will tell him to act cool or "let her do her own thing and she will eventually be back to him". This is absolute pure bullshit. He needs to deal with the shit and be a man and either walk away and start a new life or kick her out of his life. Those people who disagreed with you are blind plebs who thinks the world will automatically solve itself. They think are the same type of people who thinks they will automatically meet their soul mate if they wait long enough.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
They think are the same type of people who thinks they will automatically meet their soul mate if they wait long enough.
This soulmate idea does sound a lot like "magical thinking". I never cease to be amazed that "soulmate talk" still makes the rounds in societies that claim to be rational and that there exist men who actually take it seriously. The infantilism of it all.
[–]OMSnow1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Though they need it they can’t take being berated. It brings reality to close.
[–]filberts0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Keep thinking "lefties" don't have guns you moron.
[–]figyg0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol you're so dumb 😂😂
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr140 points141 points142 points 7 years ago (39 children) | Copy Link
That's a woman's endgame. Find a cuck for the bills and treat your body like an open sewer
[–]Sir_manalot57 points58 points59 points 7 years ago (36 children) | Copy Link
Women are hypergamous and men are polygamous.
Men tend to get confuse ld at the sight of the pussy and forget this fact.
A man can sleep around as much as wants and still love his wife, a women just looks to find an upgrade.
[–]oirectine0044 points45 points46 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sure, but most men will honor their vows and control their primal urges.
Women will not only break their vows at the drop of a hat, they'll write an article projecting about how men need to learn to control their base desires
[–]deathtocontrollers1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
men are polygamous.
Not all men.
[–]TheNewAge21472 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Polygamous isn't a behavior, it's an instinct. Men are polygamous, but doesn't mean they have to act on it, just like how humans are violent but don't always act on it.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Monogamy was clearly invented by men (namely, by "Alpha" men, i.e. those men who understand female nature and who are not easily manipulated by women). They did that because it was the only way to avoid Hobbesian anarchy and to build civilization. The red pill forums are intoxicated with confusion between Alphas and Chads, who in fact are very different animals. While both can easily get women, Chads are the dumb ones while Alphas are the smarter ones, in that the latter managed to control their sex drives. I have met many Alphas who support monogamy even though they have p***y throwing itself at them all the time. In fact, that is one of the reasons while they find little value in females. They know how women work but they are aware that they have little to offer and that, if left to their own devices, they will utterly destroy society and break down civilization.
[–]Sir_manalot0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
Nah, we are.
Just Because we don't engage or practice it (for good reasons), doesn't mean our biology doesn't demand it.
Unlike women we are not incentivized to follow our nature blindly (with white knights protecting them), so we evolved to be able to be more then our instincts want
[–]deathtocontrollers0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (18 children) | Copy Link
Perhaps at one point in time but I think men evolved to be monogamous so that civilizations would survive and thrive. There are only so many women to go around. And a civilization with 1 man having 1 woman will dominate other civilizations because in such a civilization, there are no disenfranchised men. I think the reason a lot of men want to fuck as many women as possible today is them growing up in a culture that glorifies such a lifestyle or them realizing the fact that marriage is dead and civilization has collapsed. Therefore you can't be monogamous anyway... Because modern Western sluts will come and go. If a woman is not really your woman, why invest in only her, right?
[–]Sir_manalot1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The way casual sex works and the 80/20 rule says otherwise.
We avoid indulging in it because it is a bad idea in the modern environment and monogamous societies work to repress male sexuality.
We still want it deep down. But men are designed to be be able to fight our instincts, because unlike women, nobody will come to save us if we fall.
So those who didn't adapt, died off.
[–]deathtocontrollers0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I don't see how. The 20 percent of men getting most of the action are polygamous for different reasons. I don't think it's because it's their nature. It's men adapting to the fucked up world we live in or the result of being brainwashed into thinking more women = more of a man you are or because their lifestyles don't allow them to be monogamous.
[–]Sir_manalot0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What reasons?
Men do not have to sleep around like they do.
A top 20% man can easily have a good monogamous relationship even, yet they rarely do.
And even when they do, married men (especially rich ones)I often use protiution and mistresses to compensate for when the marriage becomes boringcoe the sex dries up.
You mean the 20% attracting most of the desire of women (since not all of them sleep around as much as some might think).
Those of them who do act on their polygamous instincts do so simply because they can, since they live in an environment of relative sexual abundance unlike most men. But almost all men have those instincts, as you can easily see from the fact that threesomes are a top sexual fantasy of men (they are also one of the top fantasies of women).
[–]TheNewAge21470 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
That is false. History proves otherwise. Throughout history, there has been depictions and writings about how married men would fornicate with other women and vice versa. This is why the Bible wrote so much about cheating; because it has always happened. If you think about it, marriage is an unnatural and unnecessary thing. There is no rule in this universe that says we have to be loyal to one partner. It is this mentality that creates so many heartbreak and pain when people get cheated on, yet there is absolutely no reason to feel sad. But they still do because they have been brought up to believe in the whole soulmate bullshit and thinking that being cheated on means you are weak. Have you ever heard of this one sub culture in China that has women sleeping around with multiple men? They've lived in a society that doesn't place any importance on marriage, and thus never had to go through the whole painstaking process of a false romantic life. Romance is real no doubt. People will still be attracted to one another and feel the urge to stay close to each other for a period. But when this energy dies down, it should be treated with practicality and move on to new partners. This is just nature's way of telling us to spread our gene's with new partners. Also, one of the main reasons why people are so concerned with marriage is because of a socially ingrained concept of social status. People think having a wife would give them some sort of social point, and when the said wife leaves him, he would then become nothing because he lacks a partner now. This whole thing is balogne bogus if you look at it from a realistic perspective.
[–]deathtocontrollers3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
I have to disagree with you. Marriage and monogamy is essential for a civilization that wants to survive and thrive. That is the reason, there are ancient texts against cheating. These texts were written as a guide for people so that their civilization survives and thrives. The Bible, the Quran, these books helped forge civilizations that survived and thrive and CRUSHED all their opposition. It's what made the Europeans and the Muslims so powerful in the past. Same for the Romans, the Athenians etc. Yeah, a lot of men weren't monogamous throughout history but that doesn't necessarily mean, it's men nature to be polygamous. There are many reasons why a man would choose not to be monogamous that have nothing to do with his nature. And perhaps, not all men evolved to be monogamous. Evolution has led humanity into many different paths. For example, you could be monogamous by nature but if you are a sailor or a pirate or whatever, then that is not happening. It wouldn't be possible for you. And FYI, no I'm not a Tradcuck pushing modern marriage. Fuck modern marriage 100%. When I say marriage, I mean marriage with the wife as the man's property. I'm talking about what marriage used to be before it became gynocentric. What you consider to be natural and ideal is that human beings behave like Bonobos and that is just not practical nor is it natural because it leads to many of the problems, we are dealing with today. Problems that arise after a civilization collapses. Problems not just for men, but for women as well. And in r/mgtow, there are men constantly posting content that show us these problems, from post wall single mother hags who can't find a decent man to white knights to women behaving like trash. If you look at the modern Western world objectively, past all of our technology, entertainment etc, it's one of the biggest piles of shit in human history. It's just one dysfunctional, toxic mess. Basically, most of the bullshit people have to go through nowadays would go away if we lived like our ancient civilized ancestors.
[–]TheNewAge21471 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Seems like you have posted this while I was still writing my previous comment. Anyway, please read my response sir-manalot since it addresses your first few points as well.
And while I wholeheartedly agree with your last points about how human are just simple shits(learned the hard way from watchpeopledie), I believe this isn't just a modern problem. People have always been shitbags because we evolved from a highly competitive species that when put in such peaceful conditions, we ought to be bored to the point where we NEED to do something bad. Even when dating, females tend to be highly attracted to so called "bad boys" because it resembles the type of genes that humans desire. These "bad boy" genes are but a reflection of the highly competitive species we are. The fact is though, that all males ARE bad boys, but society has cucked us into acting civilized and nice. But if you're morbidly curious like me, you will realize that there is no such thing as be civilized. There IS civilization. There IS civility. But there is no such thing as being civilized. We are still primal. When put in third world nations with very little law, people will realize that every one, men or women, "nice guys" or "bad guys", are capable of being cruel and disgusting. Civilization will only do so much to control these urges.
There IS civilization. There IS civility. But there is no such thing as being civilized. We are still primal.
I agree. You might enjoy what Freud had to say about this, though you may have read it already:
https://www.stephenhicks.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/FreudS-CIVILIZATION-AND-ITS-DISCONTENTS-text-final.pdf
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
wife as the man's property
Most ancient cultures (including Rome) held this view, since they recognized that in marriage a man invests his work and treasure in a woman and her kids, so they were treated almost like his property. This also explains why they had the concept of dowry. Even today we often call the wife (when not working) and kids "dependants", which indicates that the man supports them through his work.
[–]deathtocontrollers0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes. It's only fair really considering the man is the only one competent enough to support his family and nation... Men today are being scammed. Having to support a family and the nation for nothing in return.
[–]Sir_manalot1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
The issue with this pov is that it ends up being unsustainable in the long run.
As apolyamoraous or serial monogamous society will quickly result in a large chunk of men being excludes from society...many of whom are invaluable or more useful than the men currently vwinning the dating game.
Not to mention the fact that such systems cause men to spend there time, resources and energy fighting to get and keep mates instead of using it to build up the nation....and ripping down fellow men until the brotherhood and nation's unity is close to non-existent. Unwin, in his book "sex and culture," noted this (expansive energy being the result of more monogamous and sexually repressive systems).
That is why monogamous and sexually repressed societies always become so powerful. Because instead of trying to get a mate, they have to focus elsewhere out of boredom (because they already have the mate they want and get all the sex they want).
So these societies go off to conquer other nations, build big status, invent great things, etc.
[–]TheNewAge21472 points3 points4 points 7 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
True I have not considered this aspect of mating culture to be such influential in the entire course of human history. This is one interesting read and I hope to come across it soon. It seems like it can open up the world to much more clarity. You are also correct that societies that lack a monogamous culture are much more lax and less ambitious. Similar cultures can be observed in modern times as well. The sub culture I mentioned in my comment about how men and women freely date each other without pressure are also much more lax than the rest of China, and is thus less ambitious in their goals. This is basically a sacrifice we have made. We gave up pure happiness for a goal of building the best civilizations in the world. Though this is a respectable pursuit, I question the reasonable purpose of it. We are but a spec of nothing that is also part of a slightly bigger spec of nothing in this universe. What we build, whether we exist, or what we achieve, is purely within the boundaries of our own concerns. There are probably species in the far out reach of our universe that is probably doing something so great, or just taking a dump, and it just doesn't matter anymore than us doing something equally great or taking a dump. The way I see it, the establishment of great civilizations are but a product of our desire to self-preservation. We strive to survive and in doing so, we must do everything we can to secure a mate. Securing a mate would then allow us to of course keep our genes in the animal kingdom. The onset of civilizations helped in that regard by giving us more capabilities to survive in harsher conditions and to populate the Earth even more at a higher rate. But if people were to just freely mate, they would just about achieve the same goal of populating earth, albeit the creation of great civilizations. This is a situation of a dilemma. Whether or not we are THAT important in the universe to make sure we become the greatest of ALL civilizations is based purely on every man's own philosophy. And to reiterate my previous point, the goal of creating civilization is respectable indeed, but the universe doesn't really care about us. We can all mysteriously be wiped out tomorrow and the world still goes on. I know this may sound a bit nihilistic, but I like to think of myself as chaotic. Chaos, true chaos, is knowing that whatever you do, there will be a reaction, that whether it be bad or good, is something that doesn't really matter that much. Like the milky way system coming into balance to produce such a planet that shelters such an array of life and nature and to give birth to the intelligent human species that have such mundane boring lives who behaves no more different than other species. We fight for food, fight for mating, fight for status, and in the end we die. The real treasure lies in our mind, the ability to enjoy ourselves because if we don't, the universe will just move on in a flash(of a billions years) without a care.
[–]Sir_manalot2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I see, how about looking at it from another angle then?
Why should civilization care about us if we are uninterested in upkeeping it?
Because your are correct, we are all insignificant. And for that reason, the moment society figures this out is the moment that we will be killed off if it is for the cultures benefit (or preceived as such).
That is why people will probably never be able to freely mate and why civilization will continue to exist and grow in power (disxounting the rise and falls it experiences).
...unless we build a utopian society where civilization doesn't need us anymore, then we will probably be allowed to do whatever then die off as a species in a hilarious mouse utopian fashion (to become so great that we no longer have a reason to exist, so we just stop breeding and slowly die off).
That is an interesting point of view but I think this is an assumption that humans are a product of civilization. This is true to some degree, modern humans are indeed products of their own creation, but we have to remember who the masters are.
Take a company for example. The company was created by business men but at any moment if the people are not able to keep up it will push them out and reward other people who help expand the company. But the company is not self-regulating, it is regulated by other humans. If at any moment people choose to disband the company, they can, but at the cost of losing profit of course.
Likewise, human civilizations are not self-regulating, but rather are propelled by the forces our own desires. If at any point the human race decides to disband the current arrangement of civilizations, nothing is stopping them. There are no force or written law in the universe that says we need to build and maintain a civilization. The only rules we have are to eat, breath, drink and populate.
But I do agree with you about how those who can't keep up will be left behind. This is true and as much as I see the world as pointless, I do not condone complacency or laziness. What I was trying to say was that, whatever we do, whether it's something important or mundane, doesn't matter to the universe nor to other people in the long run. So if you are ambitious, then make that your dream to achieve your greatest dreams. But if you are not ambitious, don't depress yourself over not having the same dreams as others, because in the end we don't matter that much anyways. A trillionaire is no different than bum. What is different is the experiences they get to have. If the bum is happy, then why force him to be a trillionaire?
unless we build a utopian society where civilization doesn't need us anymore
This almost sounds like the AI/singularity utopia, so we may in fact be headed in that direction.
Evolutionary biology and psychology are deep but have their limits. We could transition to a system where evolution is either self-directed (though a combination of genetics and AI) or entirely artificial. In that situation, we would have to think about mankind (or whatever we'd like to call what replaces it) in different terms, maybe having to do with expansion of sentience, possibly on a cosmic scale.
Great points. Here is the link to Unwin's book, for those following this discussion but who may have not read it. It should be essential reading for MGTOW:
https://archive.org/details/b20442580/page/262
It's not evolution in the Darwinian sense, but culture (in the anthropological sense). Monogamy is a cultural invention of men that makes civilization possible; you can see this from how most major religions enforce monogamy (even Islam allows only limited polygamy) and suppress polyandry entirely.
Neither men nor women are naturally monogamous. Instinctively, both men and women want multiple partners; the only difference is that men choose mostly based on age (young is better) while women choose on looks and power/dominance/status.
[–]TheNewAge21472 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Not entirely correct. Many women who are married to rich confident dudes still sleep around with far less well-off dudes. This is because it hers instincts to spread genes as possible. I'd say women are both polygamous and hypergamous. This is why you always see rich wives dissatisfied even if they were married to the richest dudes in the country. They are just programmed to intake as many male semen and produce a wide variety of offsprings as much as possible. Hypergamous is a social instincts, but polygamous is of primal origin.
[–]Sir_manalot2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
What women find as the "best" and what is really the best are two different things.
Women often marry/mate with a man because he has resources, status, power, etc to take it for herself, not because she thinks he is a good mate.
So many women go marry a confident, handsome, rich guy...but then leave for a man that is worse in everyway because she truly believes that that this man is better then her current man.
As many women love men with traits that society finds unattractive (including physical traits) and even evil, so they only go after them in moments of weakness or when they have the resources/status that they do not have to care what society wants anymore.
[–]TheNewAge21472 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This is why it's true that women are governed by emotions. I have women who are married to much well-off dudes hit on me when I was nothing but a spec of dust. I still am. But I find it hilarious how women will always be on the lookout everywhere they go while their oblivious boyfriends or husbands drag their wearing chained feet around unaware of the fact that their wives acting obedient is not the same as being loyal.
[–]Sir_manalot1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It is also why the brotherhood is so damn important.
In order for women to be loyal, not be bitchy, attractive, good housewives, etc men have to purposefully limit a women's options to the point that she is forced to stay loyal to a man.
Which is why men creates the one women per man rule and why men followed it.
Because women become more nawalt the less options she has.
Exactly. I thought the same thing as well. If every man agree to not give any women that are already in a relationship, women would have no one else to turn to but their own man.
But just like communism, people aren't always going to do what they idealize.
Women even learn to lie that they are not in a relationship just to get a n unsuspecting good man to sleep with her.
Another thing, this little theory in my mind might be a bit extreme, but I believe that the reason why women become disloyal and bitchy is because they always have orbiters to fall back on. Not bashing on orbiters at the moment because we've all been there at some point as unsuspecting young males, but if MGTOW grows, the population of orbiters would most likely decrease. Women would not be playing so much games when they realize they have only a small number of options to fall back on.
[–]Sir_manalot2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are 100% correct on that theory.
The issue is that if mgtow were to grow, nobody will want to go back to the lie after discovering the truth.
Relationships worked because men are purposefully blinded about what they really are about and what they really want in life.
The only benefit a man gets in a relationship is sex and possibly kids...and most men only wants kids because the body says so.
Everything else is about the women and I mean everything.
It is like asking slaves to go back to being slaves after slave owners decide to offer some decent bread in exchange for there freedom.
Only the most foolish and worthless would go back.
So the slave owners would be forced to either start killing off the free men or force the free men to go back.
Which is why civilizations always collapse after a women's empowerment movement. Because men will not go back unless a gun is put to there head...and even then, most will just say "pull the trigger already."
Societies best hope is for men to go tradcon, not mgtow. Which is why tradcons often seem like they agreed with us, but on closer inspection hate us and want us to go back to being slaves to help make women, and themselves, rich at our expense.
But I find it hilarious how women will always be on the lookout everywhere they go while their oblivious boyfriends or husbands drag their wearing chained feet around unaware of the fact that their wives acting obedient is not the same as being loyal.
How true. And still our gynocentric societies attempt to intoxicate everyone with the pathetic lie that it is men who think only about sex, while women would somehow be "pure". Even a child can see that women spend a lot more time caring about being sexually attractive, in an endless quest to appeal to male sexual desire -- and that that their eyes wonder incessantly after desirable men.
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[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yikes
[–]MattFoley794 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow... you told him!
[–]deathtocontrollers1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Who hurt you?
[–]massy52514 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Find a cuck for the bills and treat your body like an open sewer
Eloquent synopsis of modern marriage.
[–]ibz64610 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
😂😂😂🤘🏾
[–]JaxJags904112 points113 points114 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
“So either I can fuck other people, or I take half your money.”
Wtf
[–]Liburnian39 points40 points41 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Reminds me of those nature documentaries with flowers eating flies, the trick keeps working for millions of years so flowers don't need to change strategy. Sadly flies don't get any wiser either. For a hint of sweet syrup they risk their very life going further and furter into the belly of their own demise...
[–]ervinhass5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is deep.. like them thots cunts
The whole thing reminds me of the preying mantis. The male gets eaten.
In the human world, the male gets enslaved.
Nature is beautiful.
And his soul gets eaten. They literally do prey on men's souls, not only on their productivity. Man's creativity, inventiveness, intellect, humour and curiosity fills the female 'emotional void'.
https://www.theabsolute.net/misogyny/sim.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K12-p0m-gxk
[–]Drozz4211 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Fine, you die in a "car accident" then.
[–]internet_badass_here7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"Hey honey, let's go hiking in a very secluded area with no cell phone reception and lots of gorgeous natural bluffs. These views are to die for...."
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah. You go on a cruise. International waters, man.
[–]internet_badass_here3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tfw the person supposed to be your partner in life is actually your mortal enemy.
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[–]JaxJags9040 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There are situations where alimony makes sense. It it seems it’s just thrown at all divorces no matter what. If the guy is middle/lower middle class, there should be no alimony. If the guy was wealthy, it should never be 50%, just enough for her to live
[–]toughassmotherfucker94 points95 points96 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
the woman in this article went to spain and cheated multiple times, got pregnant and had an abortion, came home and got pregnant again and had another abortion, starts cheating on husband again because he didn't want to blindfold her during sex.
how wonderful woman are truly
[–][deleted] 27 points28 points29 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
But it's our duty to defend them in battlefields. 😕
[–]MikeRocksBoat18 points19 points20 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No. It. Isn't.
I agree. I was being sarcastic.
[–]massy52516 points17 points18 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Still though dumb mother fucker for putting himself in the situation. There is no way red flags were not whipping his dick like a bad skier on a slalom before this happened.
Women are suprisingly good at hiding those red flags and most men tend to be surprisingly bad at detecting them, even men who are otherwise perceptive. Women have evolved to manipulate men --- that has always been their main survival strategy. There is no solution for men in current society except to avoid marriage like the plague.
[–]tortillastomper37 points38 points39 points 7 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
Clean out the bank accounts, hide the money, lawyer up, quit the job and run like hell.
[–]tortillastomper0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah but I'm sure you could do it without him. Women do that shit all the time.
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[+][deleted] -20 points-19 points-18 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Quit trying to police the tone soy latte drinking hipster. No one cares about your bitching so cool it. I'm just speaking the truth.
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Nope. Thats not true. You're just a pushover.
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Nope. Some people might enjoy revenge while others don't. Leave well enough alone. If it's not for you so be it.
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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Nope. You're the one that needs to shut up. That's what's wrong with our western societies. We've gone soft and evildoers get away with far too much simply because people care too much what some unjust law says about it. There's a time for vigilante justice whether you want to acknowledge it or not so. What others feel they need to do or not do is their business and I'm not going to tell them it's right or wrong because what might be wrong for you and I might be right for them.
[–]Faerie894 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It’s GYOW aka be indifferent and not GAF. When you hate it means the person still has power over you because you still care. The higher the hate the more you care.
When you walk away you look ahead not down and never behind.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not true. All emotion is fleeting and you simply feel what you feel at the moment so indifference or not it has nothing to do with going your own way.
[–]tortillastomper6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Bit too extreme there, bud. Plus knowing you fucked her over would be much more satisfying, I think.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Whatever floats your boat is best whether too extreme or not.
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[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not cool. We don't need control freaks around here trying to police the tone.
[–]JerryNewton719 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
The picture remind me how Eve ruined Adam's life in Paradise. A woman that fucks up a guy's life, mmm... I think I heard it before.
[–]thalobby13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I'm surprised by how red pilled the bible is
[–]basedmillennial956 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Modern 'Christianity' loves to water down God's words and glosses over ALOT of patriarchal scriptures
[–]thalobby4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's a shame
That's not even Christianity any more, since it directly contradicts the main tenets of the bible as well as all Christian textual and cultural tradition. It is merely a gynocratic sham, which falsely claims the name of 'Christianity' for itself.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Every civilization in the history of mankind was deeply red pilled, except in its terminal decay phase. Feminism has existed before in every civilization that entered terminal decay and it directly correlates with civilizational dissolution.
The red pill is what builds civilization, feminism is what destroys it.
[–]thalobby1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wish this was common knowledge and more people knew about this
[–]platoonpluto8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Adam ruined it for himself by being blue pilled.
Pretty sure that was the intent of the pic.
[–]lukesoad14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Bitch threw this in his face after she knows she can take half. I'm sure she was the perfect wife for the first 5 years before allamony was a possibility.
[–]TheGillos10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lol. I'd tank my own finances. Vegas, hookers, blow, gambling. Max every credit card, 3 or 4 mortgages. Huge party for my friends. Enjoy half of a bankruptcy.
I don't need more than the basics to be happy.
[–]jeffreywolfe4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for this brilliant exit strategy lmao
[–]ovrload14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Most women on tinder are damaged goods. Proceed with caution
Most ?!? There is no reason whatsoever for any woman to be on tinder except to get f***d and d****d.
[–]heliosprimus9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
*waves * bye bye birth rate! Bye bye!
[–]Bennyjig11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you want to be sick to your stomach, read the first two paragraphs of this article. It’s insane, she gets knocked up and doesn’t know if it’s the boyfriends or some random dude from Spain... and the boyfriend stays with her JEEZZZ
Just female nature, for those who didn't know. Ask the Chads, they will tell you of even worse.
[–]Super_Stable_Genius9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"I want you to pay for my financial security while I ride the ole carousel."
[–]witheringslights9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Put it in writing, ho. My lawyers will be in touch soon.
Also, get out of the house, now.
[–]alienSpaceMuffin9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This world really needs a cataclysm...
[–]seekfart7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Who needs a second mythical event to happpen when the Kramers bring it to themselves?
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She's a famous erotica novelist
https://www.amazon.com/Rachel-Kramer-Bussel/e/B001JRV6WO/
She's been doing this stuff for a long time.
The articles she writes are mostly just sensationalist posts--so that she can get media attention for her books.
But I do believe she and her husband have played around for years. She has said that he screws other chicks too.
So.. i dunno
What bothers me about these articles is not that they're doing it.
What bothers me is, if you were to flip the roles, then there would be hell to pay.
e.g. imagine an article in Elle Magazine written by a guy. And the article title was:
"I'M MARRIED BUT I STILL USE TINDR: I told HER it's divorce or open marriage." by Bob Peterson
See, this sort of article could not appear in Elle Magazine. Their phones would ring night and day--full of screaming women saying they are going to cancel their subscription.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Dude is stupid. There is no way I would take that crap. This world is truly sad. Women are evil.
Women are evil.
Good insight. An ancient one, too. You can learn more here if you are curious:
https://www.theabsolute.net/minefield/
http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Divorce, and I get it all!
[–]9999eachhit5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Decided i would actually track down the article: https://www.elle.com/life-love/sex-relationships/a36681/im-married-but-i-still-use-tinder-to-hook-up/
geez... she is a horrible human being...
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
what was the jusitification for ending no fault divorce?
[–]MrMagtow2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pussy power, and that there are no strong male political groups. If there were, this would never have become law.
[–]thewobblywelder0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cheese n rice
[–]MrMagtow-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm not trying to shame your point of view, but you are judging her from male standards - this is important for you to recognize you are using the wrong set of standards when judging women verses judging men. If you judge another man with those standards, thumbs up. You might want to study more AWALT - so you won't be surprised (and you'll be "prepared" so it cannot happen to you). Personal growth is important.
[–]9999eachhit0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I DO judge men like that. If youre married (god forbid) then you (regardless of sex) made a commitment to that person. This is inexcusable for ANYONE. I judge EVERYONE on the same standards. If this story had the sexes reversed, i would still deem the man a horrible human being. Preaching to the choir here, friend. Equality.
[–]JameisBong4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Holy fuck, idk if i could stomach being with a woman like that. Even in my blue pill days, if something didn't add up i ended the relationship.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ah I see men are still getting married. SAD!
Yes, because we MGTOW are a bunch of sore looser incels who don't know how to get p**y. Yawn.
[–]deathtocontrollers4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd divorce her and leave the country, ensuring she gets nothing before I go.
[–]fasterfind5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Learn to fucking masturbate. Sex ain't everything. That's a woman that needs to be cut off. Document that shit, and then get a divorce with her at fault. Boom. Bitch be gone.
[–]banned_by_cucks4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol, I looked up her Twitter... Literally one of the first tweets I see:
"As a Jewish feminist, I want to say a public thank you to @ACWomensMarch for this response to my email asking if they’re affiliated with the national march. See you on Saturday,"
https://mobile.twitter.com/raquelita?lang=en
You can't make this shit up.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A third option is to push her off a cliff ??
[–]oirectine002 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The day will come when women claim it is only fair to get half of the money and assets of every man they fucked in Tinder
[–]throwaway_ftb4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
say it with me now. never. get. married.
[–]thearmchairwarrior3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Put them in the poor house, sell everything and destroy everything else you can't sell. Leave country and have the last laugh.
[–]pistolplinko2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women: you cant controle me! Do what i say or i will violate your rights and your wallet. Not to mentions emotionaly damge you.
[–]Beerbeer0072 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The Ultimate Hoegaarden
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Are at-fault divorces still a thing? Cause this article would be cause lol.
He should say sure, I just want to see the conversations. Then take screenshots and post them on her social media so her friends and family see her for what she is.
[–]boethiusfornow2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Divorce.
Meh. File for divorce on grounds of abandonment. Have the papers served to a paid actress by the sheriff.
[–]turkeyandmayo2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What a repugnant whore
[–]LateStructure1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
https://youtu.be/fyiRHzgekIU?t=103
[–]nocivo1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would fuck aa many girls I would like then shove it in her face. Then, after she realize the mistake I would ask divorce.
This is why I never married - it would be me in prison for a horrific murder - the kind that made The Black Daliah Murder look like Sesame Street
My ex who I was supposed to marry tried to force me into an “open relationship”.
I feel sorry for the idiot who married her - she will do the same to her but because he is poor white trash and she has an expensive home and makes good money he will put up with it
[–]no_gal_friend1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
thanks to feminism, women are married to the state. The state through force can extract alimony, child support and taxes from men to the women. In return, the state gets its votes from women.
We men are just a third wheel to the partnership between the women and the state.
Go Your Own Way.
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Don’t get married.
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They generate our MGTOW memes for us.
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The epitome of cruelty and audacity.
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