Had an interesting conversation today

SJHammer · 2018-08-27T16:15:36+00:00

"afraid of commitment"...always a go-to manipulative response

thingseverybodylove · 2018-08-27T16:57:53+00:00

This is real, not a joke. It not supposed to be funny. Actually, it scares the crap out of me to think that men prepare for a marriage while women prepare for a divorce.

ThePlague · 2018-08-27T14:50:53+00:00

What is particularly "adult" or "mature" about being in a commitment? It's basically a reiteration of the "best friends" thing of childhood, with all the emotional attachment, unrealistic expectations, and ultimate failure.

This is just another example of women trying to define what it means to be a man. Pffft.

el_pintado_81 · 2018-08-27T17:13:38+00:00

I paid off my first truck at 25. Commitments are not a problem, women are!

cycloneous · 2018-08-27T14:56:58+00:00

Older woman: you men these days are so afraid to grow up and be in a commitment

Translation: why aren't a part of the plantation still?! You should be enslaved already with the threat divorce rape from your wife since you are a man and need to be "molded."

ransay3277 · 2018-08-27T17:49:43+00:00

Tell her you have planned your divorce so far in advance you didn't see the need to marry.

--Edog-- · 2018-08-27T18:08:40+00:00

Women of all ages get pissed off any time a man is not serving and supporting a woman. Not in a relationship!? Not married!? Bad boy! Fuck that noise. Men are not put on this earth to be serve anyone. Nobody shames women for choosing to not get married.

newstart3385 · 2018-08-27T15:51:24+00:00

She was clearly trying to be funny. Right? Real story?

cleats4u · 2018-08-27T17:11:08+00:00

I wear a wedding band so I don't have these conversations with cunts.

0kool74 · 2018-08-27T17:24:46+00:00

Older woman: you men these days are so afraid to grow up and be in a commitment

Bet you she's never heard of Thomas James Ball!

Older woman: I was planning for my divorce already.

Yea.....and that's supposed to just make me wanna run out there and commit to the first cock carousel riding slut that comes along.....NOT!

cacamalaca · 2018-08-27T18:17:13+00:00

By 25, I was a self-made man who earned enough money to save for an an early retirement. I traveled and lived across North America and Europe and completed a bucket list worth of activities. None of this would have been possible if I were grounded in a relationship to one location and person. Meanwhile, by 25, you got a ring on your finger in what must have been a shit relationship.

I love this question

flee_market · 2018-08-27T20:17:07+00:00

do you know what I was doing when I was your age?

Yeah, riding the cock carousel.

rooster-one4 · 2018-08-27T17:05:47+00:00

Commitment has to do with achievement at some point. Achieving a marriage isn't what men do...it isn't their end-all. Therefore, a man really can't make a commitment to marriage, because there isn't anything to achieve.

beware_the_syllogism · 2018-08-27T16:59:58+00:00

They don't get it.

smegmaz · 2018-08-27T16:15:46+00:00

LOL I'd have spit out whatever I was drinking

cobaltcolander · 2018-08-27T17:33:31+00:00

I assume you forfeited the opportunity to throw that right back in her ugly face. Which is too bad.

CrackingYs · 2018-08-27T18:45:54+00:00

You hardly ever hear about women that want to stay married. For women, getting married and getting divorced ARE the goals because that's when she gains additional assets.

llDUNN · 2018-08-27T19:11:32+00:00

"Shame on you for not committing! You know what I was doing when you were young? Not committing." Lmao her answer to her own question is almost like a complete non-sequitur. You're afraid to commit, yet when I was your age I was planning my divorce. Uhhhh, you've really motivated me. Her whole thing was to just backhandedly berate you for being single. It's completely upside down, her logic. Shame on you for not committing! You

Mad_King · 2018-08-27T21:09:37+00:00

I know whats going on. I am 29 years old and i have talked my 2 high school female friends. They are both pretty much decent people but they still said "you are free to whatever you like, we obligated to marry someone in order to have a decent place in society". This is third world country ladies(for the figure of speech) and gentlemans. They both majoring on psychology, really clever girls. People can not stand still pressure from other people. That is why lots of people do things that they dont want to do or go crazy or go stupid shits or use excessive drugs. Standing still and hard against the hard pressure from others is hard. My own mother said to me to marry for 123123123 times already. I said why, she said you should and she wants grandchildren. Thats it. Noone cares noone, everyone cares their own well being and if this depends on others well beings, they make pressure to others. Human is such a sellfish creature, it is so sad to see this. I bet world would be excellent place without all this selfissness and all these ego and equal share of resources to everyone. But in the end, human design to war, design to challenge to others, design to fight back (i guess) that is why we jumped on the top of the predator tree on such a short time and extinct others.

neightdog · 2018-08-27T18:38:39+00:00

men commit to things every. fucking. day.

they give their lives and their money and their time to the people they care about

and they get shamed for not committing

camp_base · 2018-08-27T18:04:46+00:00

grow up already and start paying someone you don’t like to sleep with other men ! you meany. making some woman wait for your money. <i guess>

VenetianCares · 2018-08-27T19:45:49+00:00

besides the genetic/evolutionary aspects of hypergamy, etc.

the real modern large issue with men and women is simple. feminism has made women think they have value. truth is every woman should be trying to lock down any type of good and loyal and hard working man by age 19-22, because besides a few years of good sex and maybe some work around the house (if you're lucky), the man provides value 500000% more than the woman does in the long term until old age.

if women were more in control of the estrogen need for cum and simply realized at age 19 what they do at age 35, we could have some fulfilling relationships. feminism has spread the lie that its ok to wait until you are 30 to even consider marriage, live it up. make money, fuck 80 Chad's, whatever.

well, we are the response to that. i have no interest in any woman past the age of 21. and i'm 36. you expect me to give you my ENTIRE life and security and protect you and work for you. yeah, you better give me all your best years and that means hot sex every day and some fucking caring personality and no fucking nagging. the entitlement on these cunts now a days.

Swan_in_a_Cage · 2018-08-27T16:26:09+00:00

Women commit to men, not the other way around.

Otherwise, we go our own way.

DarthSchadenfreude · 2018-08-27T17:27:28+00:00

Most people get married; its better to not be a lemming.

ahab_dies · 2018-08-28T01:12:28+00:00

Boomers want to lecture us on relationships when they're the biggest failures at long term commitment in the history of our civilization.

Theyre the ones responsible for the way things are today. They're the ones who turned successful marriage vs divorce into a 50/50 odds game.

So many of them are now in their 50s and 60s, have had an absolutely chaotic love life, and somehow think their age makes them wise. Bullshit, they never learned a goddamn thing in all their years of fucking it up.

Such arrogance.

Taguroizumo · 2018-08-27T18:52:26+00:00

With these conversations, you see the importance of not getting married until the world spins in your favor. Marriage for the average hetrosexual male ends up in divorce or death, so he gets fcked both ways, so why do it?! Before i got banned from the femcels subreddit some idiots over there were trying to prove to me that marriage was good for men, had to laugh. I laughed and then got banned. Oh well

wildfireboat · 2018-08-27T19:40:43+00:00

Life Tip: Age does not beget wisdom

Tipofthemorni · 2018-08-27T19:47:39+00:00

When people ask me why I don't want to get married I tell them because I don't want a divorce.

801735 · 2018-08-27T14:42:31+00:00

did that reaaaallly happen?

AllureFX · 2018-08-27T20:02:22+00:00

Its amazing how oblivious they are to their retarded mindset and worldview. Its like theyve been mindfucked so hard by societal norms that any logical reasoning on the contrary just goes out their ear

skeletonshorror · 2018-08-27T20:52:07+00:00

When they say “are you afraid of commitment?” I say “no, I’m afraid of the size of your opening”💀

BastaHR · 2018-08-27T16:25:08+00:00

This conversation has a quality of a joke. :D

NietzscheExplosion · 2018-08-27T16:35:21+00:00

I think I might have just reflexively punched her in the face.

Global_MGTOW · 2018-08-27T18:32:01+00:00

Old roastie was most likely single herself, the lack of introspection these people have...

nhendren23 · 2018-08-27T19:26:10+00:00

My response: "The level of projecting in you statements, ma'dam, is truly astounding. You accuse me of being afraid of commitment when you were planning your divorce at 25. Disloyal women like you are the exact reason why I will not commit. G'day"

MutedProof · 2018-08-27T19:59:20+00:00

Hmm, maybe men wouldn't fear commitment if women these days weren't whores

MGTOWManofMystery · 2018-08-27T18:30:53+00:00

Not "kind of" - definitely proves your point!

2018-08-27T18:31:16+00:00

WhistlingAlong · 2018-08-27T19:06:07+00:00

What a dumb fucking useless piece of shit whore using up our oxygen.

2018-08-27T19:22:25+00:00

She probably didn’t even realize that at that age she was about to get divorced. It was just her hive mind brain trying to shame you for going against the norm until she was asked and took a trip down memory lane to her first divorce

reddit_detective_ · 2018-08-27T21:00:15+00:00

Always, ALWAYS know that women all think like this, even the feminists, their goal is marriage, and to them that means doing nothing and just collecting the paycheck of everything from you.

benevolent-troll · 2018-08-27T21:11:17+00:00

Did you knock the cobwebs off her dusty ass though?

squidracer · 2018-08-27T21:22:07+00:00

Women always want to take relationships to the next step.

The next step after marriage is divorce

uniboner · 2018-08-27T21:34:51+00:00

Don't worry, she didn't catch that delicious irony. Makes it that much better.

RowdyBusch · 2018-08-27T21:39:03+00:00

Older woman: you men these days are so afraid to grow up and be in a commitment, What are you waiting for?

Lol, what a pathetic attempt at pressuring (aka manipulating) you.

Itisforsexy · 2018-08-27T21:43:40+00:00

Shaming tactics wash over me like a gentle breeze. It's almost comforting to have my thoughts confirmed yet again, AWALT. Though a lot of men do this too now, tradcucks and whatnot. Shut up, man up, get your lobster army in order and fall on that sword for society.

TB409 · 2018-08-27T22:08:32+00:00

Afriad of commitment or knowledge about the trap hmmmmm

hollybegin · 2018-08-27T22:11:14+00:00

I was planning for my divorce at 25...

And the old hag thinks this crap is some kind of accomplishment? That says a lot about her. Nice guidance.

thecherry94 · 2018-08-27T22:21:08+00:00

Shames you for being fearful of commitment but she was already planning on divorcing at you age. What a gigantic irony.

This woman is a living meme.

skippydammit · 2018-08-27T23:17:07+00:00

Tell them that you skipped that marriage "step" and went directly to Single with A$$et$...-:)

LJHova · 2018-08-27T23:19:05+00:00

"Afraid to...be in a commitment"

Yup. Terrified to be committed to a lifetime of servitude, financial ruin, and verbal/emotional/psychological abuse. Yes. 100% terrified. I'd be damned insane not to be terrified.

XteveMcQueen · 2018-08-28T00:01:52+00:00

Next time tell her. We’re done being gentlemen of any kind. Let them know their double standards.

Spungo1 · 2018-08-28T01:31:41+00:00

I had a conversation with my doctor today. He asked how I was doing and if I was seeing anyone. I said no and that I wanted to retire earlier. He understood that point but agreed from a different perspective. He said that too many of his patients seem co-dependent, and relationships could be a major source of their problems. Doctors give out a lot of prescriptions for anxiety and depression, so he has seen all kinds of shit. Men who get yelled at, women who get physically abused, etc. The feeling that one needs a relationship tends to cause problems.

throwaway_ftb · 2018-08-28T01:40:47+00:00

oh lord

anti_masyarakat · 2018-08-28T02:49:33+00:00

i do want to get married, but girl are too busy chasing chad and tyrone, get gang bang, finger fuck from stranger, when their lasagna is flabby and smell like cheese, they finally want to get married, im okay to be their chuck husband, but they still doesn't want me because i'm broke as fuck.

Well, i'm actually rich as fuck, but i like to wear like homeless person. And, this girl who has fetish to fuck with homeless are actually married, when asking why they do this, they said they like to feels dirty.

MieSelph · 2018-08-28T03:46:54+00:00

Hmmm... This lady sounds familiar...

xevolverx · 2018-08-28T04:39:08+00:00

Ya im getting tired of these. Now im getting told more and more i need to get my act together and make more.... usually by a woman whp earns 1/3 what i do and is being supported by someone else. When i support each girl i was with and paid for my patents house. But right im irresponsible after my ex raped my savings.

kmagaro · 2018-08-28T04:51:45+00:00

She's a horrible example of her generation if she considers planning her divorce by 25 an achievement. If she really is old then she must've grown up in a very liberal area because where I live Baby Boomers only got divorced for extreme reasons. She probably had a shit husband though like many were in the old days. Don't let that discourage you from looking for the right girl. There's plenty of great women out there.

fezha · 2018-08-28T09:47:20+00:00

I'm so glad I'm the military. The moment I get questions like this, I just say stuff like "Military lifestyle doesn't fit with family" or "It's hard to find women willing to deal with stress of military life, but I think it's unfair to push that on someone."

When you sound like you're doing women a favor, they stop bothering you.

RedHattedPhilomath · 2018-08-29T15:44:01+00:00

Yeah. It really sucks for men who want someone to love or want children. :(

I’ve always wanted to adopt a kid. A son or daughter. Give them a home and teach them and raise them and love them. But I’m a 16 year old boy, and society’s only gonna get worse before this parade of corruption and lack of moral integrity dissipates. So I don’t imagine I’ll even live long enough to adopt and raise some kids properly and healthily.

I might still say fuck it and try my best though. Dunno. :)

biggestballz · 2018-09-22T22:06:03+00:00

Your response should of been"none of your business"

Reality33 · 2018-10-02T00:52:13+00:00

Well since most women are the real cause of most divorces these days since they just can't stay faithful to only one man anymore which is the real reason why so many of us good innocent men are going MGTOW the very safe way now instead of dealing with these losers.

Title	Had an interesting conversation today
Author	thingseverybodylove
Upvotes	838
Comments	112
Date	August 27, 2018 2:41 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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