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[β]Wharfcat251 points252 points253 points 7 years ago (51 children) | Copy Link
900/month for 13 years =140K is what I paid.
[β]Idiot_Savant_Tinker113 points114 points115 points 7 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
Just last month, I finished the $253 per month for 17 years. ~$51,000.
I bought this to celebrate. It's much cheaper, and wasn't raised to hate me. I call it "Child Support".
[β]BobDaRula69 points70 points71 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I was fully expecting a pocket pussy
[β]Idiot_Savant_Tinker51 points52 points53 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Glad to disappoint.
[β]combatmonk28 points29 points30 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Finished this month. Similar costs plus court and intense pain and suffering. The child is ruined.
[β]Idiot_Savant_Tinker16 points17 points18 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I didn't even count court costs.
[β]combatmonk12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I tried every possible scenario and in the end, no matter how much I won in court I could not defeat the poison of her soul seeping into him. Nor could I get the influence to allow him to see its dangers for himself.
Even in the last phone call, six months after turning eighteen I called to offer college money and continued healthcare, they continued their abuse. She started insulting my family and he even refused to take the call.
My father warned me, and I fought to show the boy he had value. But he had no desire to break the sickly embrace of the dark smother. Itβs warm moldy environs infected his soul. Alas he cannot even fight it off as I did. He lacks the strength.
May God have mercy upon them.
[β]Fortius142 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hopefully he comes around. Usually when the boy lives life and see's how this world is, he'll come back. You don't have to search and beg him to come into your house but keep the light on.
[β]combatmonk2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Itβs what God would want. The Prodigal Son, the very heroβs journey. Itβs what I did. And to my fathers credit he taught me the ancient ways. Well by way of Uncle Sam, in many ways Drill Sergeant was his surrogate.
[β]TheRiseAndFall1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
One of my best friends was in such a situation. His mother poisoned him against his father. When we would occasionally hang out at his dad's house I could see how hard he tried to get through to his son and it felt genuine. I spoke to my friend about it on many occasions and after three years he finally came around.
Now he and his dad have a good relationship again. But it took until he was in college for it to happen.
[β]captainxela19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Fuck yeah that shit wont cheat on you or have a headache when you want a ride.
[β]Idiot_Savant_Tinker22 points23 points24 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
And it sounds nice.
And it costs less money.
And if it starts to smoke, I can do something about it.
And it makes me happy.
And it will be as beautiful in ten years as it is now.
[β]Pogonotomy5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You can ride her hard and put her away wet, but give her good tires to avoid roadside regret.
[β]captainxela2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hell nah dont put her away wet, gotta get the road salt off if you wanna keep the paint nice.
[β][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
or have a headache headache when you want a ride
lmao
[β]it-hertz-when-IP10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think about those guys that pay support all those years only to find out later that the child wasnβt his. Why doesnβt she have to pay back the $? Because my ex canβt make as much money as me, I have to come up with the difference (we split 50/50). I wonder if that was factored into the βgender pay gap?β π
[β]tchower2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Even Momβs are loyal to money over their children! These gold diggers are trash woman to begin with, how could a man actually trust one of them to take care of their children properly with their materialistic mindset?
[β]lonewolfsigmamgtow1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wish you had a NORTON COMMANDO or an Arch motorcycle (one of the modified ones).
[β]theydoexist811 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nice hog man!
[β]Idiot_Savant_Tinker1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks! It's been just about the most pleasant motorcycle I've ever had. It's smooth, quiet, and forgiving in corners. And it's as reliable as an anvil.
[β]Fortius140 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good deal!
[β][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Thatβs crazy! My dad was supposed to pay $280 for his two kids a month.
[β]Wharfcat14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Add 1200/year for health insurance, probably 1200/year for WAM (walking around money) ect. ect. You get the idea. 70K would be a bargain.
[β][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Iβm going to guess you have a lot more money than my family. I donβt know though because my dad bullshitted his taxes the year mom asked for child support. Still, yours was 6.5x as much a kid per kid.
[β]andreyred15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
For how many kids?
[β]Wharfcat10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
1
[β]NickPRivers10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
$2000/mo for 2 kids for 9 years= $216k, and $1000/mo for 1 kid for 4 years=$48k. Grand total =264k (this was forced on me and my income was $96,000). Plus all healthcare=tens of thousands $, all activity and sports $ (figure skating and AAU baseball.. She paid nothing because she cares less about them than herself) = ~50k. She saved $0 of all that CS for college. On top of all that, right when we separated, she bankrupted us. She got chapter 7 (no payments) and I was forced into chapter 13 ($800 payments for 5 years = $48k). Plus whatever else she refused to pay for that they needed. All said about $A half million. I am not anywhere near worst case there is, but it changed my life, closed doors and opportunities and was not healthy for my kids. They're 24 & 20 now, they love me and finally are beginning to understand.
[β]andreyred7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
thats insane. What was your income?
[β]Wharfcat44 points45 points46 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
100K My company did me a solid and didn't include OT or bonus or would have been more. I think 1200/mo was max but not sure.
The punchline is 3 months after CS ended her house went into foreclosure. She couldn't manage money for shit.
[β]PitBullFan17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the best part of the story.
[β]Onlymgtow8813 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Of course lol
[β][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Always nice to see a silver lining. You have the rest of your life left and she has nothing.
[β]TaiYongMedical15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is based on the fact that the family court is a terrorist organization.
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[β]Wharfcat4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ya my stepfather had to pay for his son all the way through college. I don't have too much heart burn about the CS I paid. If I had a surrogate to get my kid and then hire a nanny to care for him it would've been more expensive. It's cool now, wasn't at the time. Hang in there dude, one day at a time.
I've often debated this in my head and I've come to the conclusion that of I do use a surrogate, at least I would be able to definitely spend as much time in my kid's life. Rolling that dive on the woman to have a kid with is too risky.
[β]unpropaganda5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's like another rent payment for me sheeeeeeeeeeeeit.
[β]InformalCriticism3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Heh, yeah, I was going to comment it's a lot more if you're middle class, even if she works. This fucking modern slavery is fucked.
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[β]Wharfcat10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Texas is 18. I read that the max in Texas was 1200/month, thank god I didn't have to find out. She never took me back to have it raised but I'm sure she could have, I don't think it was out of the kindness of her heart. Probably because I brought so much pain on her during the divorce, she didn't want No mas.
[β]MafiosoMGTOW2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How many kids? Total bad ass bro, great job knocking that out for your kids in this bullshit system.
[β][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
You could have bought an apartment and generate passive income with that amount of money.
[β]Wharfcat5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
After final decree I worked like a mad man to repair the damage. My goal was to retire at 55. I retired at 55 and 2 months.
A guy named Dave Ramsey ( The Total Money Makeover) calls it gazelle intensity. You don't wander out of debt and you don't wander into wealth. Just like a gazelle runs from a lion, intensity.
[β][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Big fan of the TMM, went through it years ago, totally worth it, nothing ground breaking, but more financial education than I ever got in school.
[β]Wharfcat0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I consider TMM baseline knowledge. Bottom line is debt is bad, debt is risk and places a claim on the future.
Congratulations my man!
[β]saharaharahara0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My coworker is just 19 and has a 5 month old kid already. He told me as of right now he pays $250/month on his minimum wage part time job.
[β]Global_MGTOW62 points63 points64 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
$70,000
A year maybe, you're going to pay a hell of a lot more within 18 years.
[β]NohoTwoPointOh27 points28 points29 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Perhaps those are simply attorney's fees...
[β]ultrasuperthrowaway2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah exactly not even close
[β]MattFoley7950 points51 points52 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
70k? πππ
$1400/mth for over 10 years for me at this point.
[β]jewishboy1228 points29 points30 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Holy shit :( you are currently being raped
[β]MattFoley7931 points32 points33 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Yeah... they fuck you up the ass in Ohio.
[β]sylviandark13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
spending that much on child support will leave you LIVING IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER
[β]MattFoley797 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Living on a steady diet of government cheese!
[β]astralduelist2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you didnt marry her, would you still have to pay?
[β]dumbSavant2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup. Cue rappers
[β]mecpaw1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Child support yes, alimony probably.
[β]anduxo2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Sorry for the ignorance in the subject, but are child support payments adjusted for inflation as years go by?
[β]Wharfcat1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes and increases in income too. Rarely does CS decrease for decrease in income. Inferred income I think they call it. They figure you made X in the past and should always make the same or more. There's always the threat of jail to give motivation.
[β]TaiYongMedical38 points39 points40 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
More like 700,000 across 20 years of child support and alimony. Add a second kid to the equation, and you will reach 1 million dollars.
[β]InformalCriticism25 points26 points27 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
It never surprises me when men do the math and just hire a killer or do it themselves.
[β]ParalyticPoison4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Hockey Mask Time!
[β]InformalCriticism15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I just don't understand how judges and politicians never take responsibility for violence DIRECTLY resulting from court decisions.
Edit: It's fucking tort law 101.
[β]ParalyticPoison12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
In this fucked up clown-world "justice" system we have, I would rather be a prisoner than a financial slave to some whore. Thing is, I would never get myself into that situation in the first place, juice is not even close to being worth the squeeze.
[β]InformalCriticism4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wisdom beyond your years.
[β]PitBullFan1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Murder/suicides don't just fall outta the f-ing sky...
[β][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not to mention putting them into college.....
[β]EndlessPatriotism43 points44 points45 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Before you even think about a woman, beat off 3 times and then make a decision.
[β]gabrieljesusmc59 points60 points61 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Usually just takes one, almost always disinterested after that. Itβs crazy how just doing that shuts off almost all desire.
Our brains and how chemicals affect our desires is really interesting
[β]EndlessPatriotism28 points29 points30 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
3 times is just a safety, you will be completely done by then.
[β]AdrenalineJunkySloth28 points29 points30 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Gotta admit, though, she's attractive.
[β]mkultra3335 points36 points37 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
And thus is the state of most men; they are one blowie away from being back on the plantation.. π€‘
[β]Natsume2431 points32 points33 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's not his fault he is attracted to women. We are here because our attraction led us or nearly led us to our ruin.
He is only at fault if he acts recklessly on his attractions, not for having natural feelings.
[β]AdrenalineJunkySloth19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Exactly. I'm fully aware of female nature and I'm very much MGTOW. However, being MGTOW does not mean you stop being attracted to females. You very much still are, you just choose to be extra careful and cautious with your actions, moves, and decisions.
[β]Natsume2410 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. To trick is to maintain control of your urges and not out yourself in a powerless position
[β]wake88615 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Sheβs a porn star (Riley Reid)
[β]isactuallyspiderman19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
she also looks NOTHING like this in real life and 10x so without any makeup lol. this picture is photoshop and touched up as well.
[β]Whirrlz1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Truth
[β]Kinetic_Wolf1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well no, not at all. I have a huge sex drive, so there are reasonable odds that I will fuck women in the future. Can't help that, it'd be like trying to stop myself from ever eating again.
That said, I wouldn't go back to the plantation, worshiping pussy, spending all (or any) of my money on women, etc... no thanks. Sex can be separated from bluepill lifestyles.
[β]MattFoley7918 points19 points20 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Isn't she the porn star who admitted to raping a kid?
[β]bugattikid201210 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Aren't they all?
[β]Natsume245 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So are clear oceans.
I wouldn't jump in one without preparation, though.
[β]lethrowaway4me3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She's a porn star.
[β]captainxela3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Shes pretty much everything MGTOW is against...absolute fucking nutcase...oh and she has an inch of hair in all the places you dont want it
[β]BlackWinterShinigami26 points27 points28 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Not hard, it's called condoms and bleach. Let me explain. When you doing the deed, USE A CONDOM & PRAY IT DONT BREAK!!!! Then when you finish, go in bathroom with condom and pour bleach inside then dump in garbage or flush down toilet. I'd like to see her ass try to get pregnant from that!!!!
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[β]AcquireCurrencyMOB8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Make sure its of the clear kind though.
https://www.panolapepper.com/store/hot-sauces/panola-all-natural-clearly-hot-sauce-5-oz?zenid=k5scmmqqmu47ehljo2guhk3em7
[β]BlackWinterShinigami4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh shit....the plot thickens. Mawuhahahahaha
[β]people_watcher2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I thought that the link said "thot sauces" at first.
[β]BlackWinterShinigami1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OMG that's devious....I LOVE IT!!!! Be like that's my que LMAO
[β][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I remember reading that thread on reddit a while ago. It was nuts.
[β]tilnewstuff0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd like to see her ass try to get pregnant from that!!!!
I don't think pregnancy starts in that area.
[β]nzalog20 points21 points22 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Who is your sundress guy? $7 sounds like a bargain.
[β]castlefrankie18 points19 points20 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
CS cost me $250K. Plus, I'll be the asshole If I don't help with college expenses.
Yes, I plan to be the asshole.
If you can't set aside enough to ensure college expenses are paid when you've received a quarter mil...fuck you.
[β]ImAnIronmanBtw3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Trade school or community college.
[β]Haywood_Jablomie4217 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's what vasectomies are for!
[β]hunter_mate17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How about just wear a condom
[β]Noodledongle0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wear a condom and pull out. I also refuse to use anybody elseβs condoms besides the ones I buy myself. I AINT TAKIN NO CHANCES bitch
[β]LiveTheTruth32110 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Billie Jean is not my lover
[β]sylviandark4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
heh heh
[β]something_thoughtful15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hate her face. Damn rapist.
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[β]BrainBoy0000 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Having sex with a woman will give you the risk of STDs or a false rape accusation,you will think that this sounds paranoid but you won't think that when you're in jail!
[β]WearDoWeGoNow5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
$70,000? What kind of crazy discount are you getting?
[β]AngryDeer3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Roger roger
[β]UrOffensive-Mog2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Stay strong gents
[β]Purnima_bhardwaj0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
πππ
[β]jemimaswitnes2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So far I pay 772 a month and have been for 34 months so $26,248 I have paid my ex wife and that piece of shit literally tryβs to buy my 6 year old daughters love with my money and then I look like a bad guy because I canβt buy my daughter things. But karma is a bitch and when we go back to court Iβm prob gonna get 50/50 because sheβs stupid and lied about expenses from when we setup child and I have proof to show it.
[β]YonkoPat1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm sticking to my 3D waifus so I'll be fine.
[β]mastermomo161 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Reminder that Riley Reid raped a man.
[β]rofalitoli1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
ANY woman on planet Earth will NEVER look it feed as good as your own personal success!
[β]NOWIFE1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Amen brother
[β]LiveTheTruth3211 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The devil will look nice then will make you think youre in heaven when really you're being sent to hell. Don't fall for it. Stay away.
[β][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Preach.
Girl I was banging two years ago suggested we stop using protection/stop pulling out. Also was wearing a sundress at the time. It's like they all have a thot checklist. So predictable it's pathetic...but it also has a high success rate. Glad I'm not that much of a sucker.
[β]MarzMonkey0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You guys who don't want families just get snipped; then you can pump all the useless seed you want without worry.
[β]Pandastratton0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yikes
[β]matthewcoy0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's a trap!
[β]dumbSavant0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Shadbase leaking I see
[β]Whatdoin270 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Won't happen. My sperm doesn't work! πππ
[β]i-cantfind-0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Overwhelmingly true
This made me laugh pretty hard.
[β]Omfgmobilesucks0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ha! I knew being ugly had to have upsides!
[β]Captainshark980 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Condom lol
[β]pjoman960 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
it looks tasty though
[β]NickTesla20180 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hope she's going commando under there.
Eyes on, hands off.
Riley Reid is the perfect example of this too. small boobs, innocent face, the kind of girl you'd look at and just presume, she must be somewhat good, no way she's had 50000 cocks run thru her. but indeed, she has. usually I realize now, the more innocent a girl looks, the nastier she is. 99% its true.
[β]chage43110 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just beat off to this chick, sheβll get you that post nut clarity.
[β]daytookRjobz0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't want a gut?take it in the butt
[β]dreamerandstalker0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It might be worth the effort!
[β]bazillion_stigma0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Can't believe this
[β]A-Jacksh1t-God0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lmao good to know
[β]techfreak-6ix9ine0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And that's a fact
[β]chucho890 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So you guys saying you will pay less money if you havenβt got a divorce ? The point is you have a kid you get a responsibility.
[β]teelolws0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Curious why this is spoiler and NSFW tagged?
[β]AAR_AZTEK_5FIVE0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
AAR.AZTEK reporting in. New account, clean slate.
Gentleman, the woman in this picture is a sexual object. She is using her appeal to lure you and take everything from you. If you must engage in sexual activities with this object, then you must be cautious to develop attachment. Be forewarned. She will destroy the weak minded with ease.
-AAR.AZTEK
dat skirt-covered ass doe
no goddamnit! *punches self in the mouth* I PROMISED JIMMY-- I SAID ID STAY OFF THE PLANTATION
*looks down pants* YOU SETTLE DOWN NOW JIMMY
[β]kaczan30 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude, as soon as the first warm day rolls up, they pack their asses in short shorts. As soon as a cold day appears in October, they jump into over-knee stripper boots. All weather is an excuse to be slutty.
[β]r8001-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm pretty safe if she has cup size like that.
[β]PapaMGTOW-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't see as many THOTS utilizing dresses like they used to! Doubt Every THOT!
[β]_Last_Man_Standing_-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I do love sundresses tho... :/
[β]Dragort-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
PSA sundresses cost more than $7
[β]Onlymgtow88-5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I do have a weakness for those... healthy reminder.
[+]rogue0tter-11 points-10 points-9 points 7 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
Trying to understand something about this sub, do you guys think that all women are bad? Like I recognize that there are definitely some evil evil women out there who do awful things to men emotionally, physically, financially, etc., but do you guys think there are some women who are genuinely good and loving people who provide value to a man?
[β]5andw1ch15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
There probably are some good women, but itβs not worth risking and finding out imo
[β]rogue0tter-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Whatβs the risk of dating? You could just not sleep with them, not pay for their shit, just try to have a good time and be friends and see where it goes? Also does this ideology apply to having any female friends or just sexual/romantic ones
[β]5andw1ch9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Dating comes with a lot of drama. And even if you donβt sleep with them they can still accuse of rape and most likely will win. The ideology for the most part only applies to romantic/sexual, but it can and is also applied to female friendships
[β]rogue0tter-4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Why would they want to accuse you of rape? Thatβs a very long and difficult process for them to undergo to randomly spite a guy they have only been on a few dates with i think. Iβm in university right now and i myself and my friends have all been on a lot of dates and none of them have ever had a woman accuse them of rape, I really donβt understand that fear.
[β][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your problem is your trying to apply logic to the female mind. They do not go together, its akin to trying to run your car engine on distilled water. Men use logic, women operate on emotion. You can Google false rape and read up all you want to on the subject. #metoo timeframe is a dangerous time to even work with a woman.
[β]anduxo5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
You don't need to say that you are in university, we already know. Only kids ask these questions. Not trying to be rude by the way, it's just that you haven't seen how women develop yet.
Basically, most women are a great deal when they are college students. I'm in my 30s and I like to date college girls myself. They are less demanding, they are not thinking about money, kids or anything like that. They are hot. They are perfect for semi LTRs with no pressure to spend money or buy a ring anytime soon.
But women reach a point in life when they change priorities, usually in their late 20s. Suddenly, they realize they are not as hot as they used to be. They start thinking about having kids, and their biological clocks are ticking loudly. They start needing money, they don't want "stupid hookups" anymore. They want a provider and want it fast.
At that point, those who are single will start looking for a beta provider. They may rationalize it as a "good father", "marriage material man", etc. but all of that is code for "man who can (and is willing to) provide resources". Those who are already married will make sure their current husband is a good provider, so don't think you are safe if you marry your high school sweetheart right after graduating college.
So at that point everything changes. The hotness, sweetness and seemingly unconditional love of those college students turns into a desire for resources. Once their priority is resources, you can expect anything. You better keep your job and not try anything stupid like "following your dreams" or changing careers. Don't buy stupid stuff or cars with the money she is entitled to.
You'll see it. It's just nature. Just observe. Pay attention to older couples. See who's the provider and who sits around all day. You may be OK with this, but keep in mind that for women you MUST do this. It's women's nature to want resources. The sooner you know that the better your life will be. You'll also bang the hottest girls when you know this.
Hope this helps. Feel free to ask any questions, and if you find a unicorn please let us know.
[β]5andw1ch0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sorry for not responding, ya boy worked graveyard last night. Iβm gonna assume they said lots of stuff, just look at the informative?
I have plenty of friends who are women, I just dont want any romantic involvement with any of them after so many bad experiences.
[β]noelogoutlaw-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Dating costs valuable time and energy, that could be better spent on other things.
ALSO: Men and women cannot be friends. Unless the man is loaded with estrogen.
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Think of it like this. Out in the wild there might be the most loving, caring, affectionate rattlesnake in the world, who wants to do nothing but practice her mariachi music and give warm hugs. The problem is she looks just like all the other rattlesnakes who want nothing more than to bite. This subs purpose is to educate men about rattlesnakes. Then let them decide on how much risk they are willing to take.
We dont, Well I cant speak for all, I dont hate women. But my experience over 15 years of marriage has brought me to the point where I'm not interested in them as a life partner. I might date, but I'll never look for a woman to be anything more than a diversion.
[β]rogue0tter0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Do you believe that women are more likely to be evil people more than men? Again, Iβm asking only to understand not to judge or belittle. Iβve been in a lot of relationships with women and I truly believe most of them are good people, in an out of a relationship. There is always the potential for getting hurt but getting hurt isnβt always the result of wrong doing, it could just be incompatibility yanno
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Evil has nothing to do with it really. In a way it's not even fully the fault of women. Its hypergamy gone wild, paired with a judicial system that actually encourages them to take advantage of Male partners. If someone told you tomorrow that you could leave work, take half whatever your bosses retirement, a stipend every month so long as you dont have a job, and a check every month for every pet you have.... what would you do? Sounds like a pretty sweet deal no? That's the situation that many of these women find themselves in. And it's just to tempting when they get bored, or hypergamy kicks in, or they aren't attracted to their mate any more.... so they take it. And its usually the men getting royally fucked.
[β]spiesvsmercs2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good answer man. Both men and women can be shit. However, our justice system paired with our sexual dimorphism (women select for wealth etc) means that our system encourages women to be bad while reining in poor male behavior.
[β]FrogMasta272 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your question is irrelevant. This is about risk management.
[β]gprime3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
but do you guys think there are some women who are genuinely good and loving people who provide value to a man?
It's a moot point. The issue is the legal power to cause harm. What percentage of divorced men went into their marriages expecting to get divorced? What percentage of men freed by the Innocence Project expected to face and ultimately be jailed for a false rape accusation following consensual sex? What percentage of men who are later shown by DNA evidence not to be the father expected to be victims of paternity fraud? The answer in each case is, if not literally then functionally, zero. And yet each of those three life-ruining problems are shockingly and tragically common. So, you could either ignore reality and take a gamble on a woman and hope it doesn't blow up in your face, or you could put your own interests first and not bother with them.
[β]Wharfcat3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok Say you have a bowl of M&M's in front of you and I told you 10% were poison and you will die from eating just one. They all look exactly the same. Want one?
do you guys think that all women are bad (No)..........but do you guys think that there are some women who are genuinely good and loving people who provide value to man (Yes)........But is an MGTOW lifestyle more rewarding than a married life? (Absolutely)
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It's just a reminder to wear condoms and not get emotionally attached.
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