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[–]richbeezy73 points74 points75 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Would be nice to know the background of this guy (age, marital status, etc).
I guess I am a coward for not making the same mistakes in the future (because unlike this guy, I actually learn from my mistakes).
I am a coward for looking out for my own best interests.
Being “brave” to this guy is throwing away your freedom, resources, time, and most importantly - your sanity.
Nah, I’m good - you take the torch big guy and let us all know how the divorce goes.
[–]teslaistheshit28 points29 points30 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Chris Rock said it best. 50% of marriages end in divorce which means 50% are cowards. Let that dumb ass reap what he sows.
[–]Sir_manalot20 points21 points22 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Anytime someone tries to tell you are a coward, remember that is just the shaming tactic they use to attack the intelligent.
[–]FlyingSexistPig45 points46 points47 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"build their lives to attract that girl"
Men don't attract, men go get. Women attract.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Gay men like him really don't know how to be masculine. They just reflect what women do because they think that's what women like.
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[–]teslaistheshit23 points24 points25 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
At this point I'd say the government has made it damn near impossible to encourage men to marry. Hell they even removed alimony as a tax deduction this year!
[–]Sir_manalot12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tradcons just keep making the deal sweeter eh?
[–]Rollbar1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I regret I have only one upvote to give this comment!!!
[–]Sir_manalot12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Obviously they want you to get married then fucked over by divorce courts.
Even the biggest bible thumping, pro-marriage tradcons refuse to do ANYTHING to fix the family courts, because they do not give a fuck about the children or marriage itself.
And by anything, I mean ANYTHING. Tradcons have had the ability to fix marriage for over THIRTY PLUS years now. But even now, when they have control and could easily fix it, they do not care.
[–]CeleritySteam5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Most of them even admit this.
Some dumbass white woman gets killed by her own stupidity - oh noes we lost MUH WHITE BABIES (ignoring that you really wouldn't want those stupid genes or badly parented kids in the gene pool even if they have the correct skin color).
Guy gets cucked and resumes another man's save game unknowingly - still a white baby, they don't care.
They see a single mother - oh look a white baby and it's not mine, better be a real man for it!
Man is divorce raped, children are stolen and abused by the now single mother - you did your job we don't need you anymore, and oh look more white babies (that won't give a fuck about our cause).
I could keep going but you get the idea. They worship pussy, enable pussy, and break pussy then act surprised and offended when their pussy replaces them with real men unironically.
[–]Sir_manalot6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The most hilarious part is that tradcons pussy worship is why liberalism and feminism has gained so much power (they created it by empowering women so damn much) and why immigration is now a problem (because women are importing men because tradcons have turned men into what women do not want).
What was the bible passage?
Oh yeah, "do not spend they strength onto women, nor the power to slay kings."
Perhaps these bible thumpers should stop thumping the bible and actually read the damn thing first.
[–]CeleritySteam3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly my point. Feminism (aka honest female nature), libtardism (liberals seek freedom, libtards destroy it), and tradcucks are all in a coalition. They appear opposed but these are controlled ops. They are also united and move in full cooperation with certain (((powers that be))).
The supreme irony of all this is that just as walking away from thots is one of the few things that attracts them walking away from civilization is one of the few things that can save it just because the only way of beating a force like this is by starving it of resources. Going Galt works, and as much as Rand is an autistic AWALT she got it right that once the intelligent men quit giving their minds that is when they want you at the negotiation table again. Of course by then they have nothing you want and you let it reset then recreate, ideally while there are still enough men that can.
[–]nomoregouge3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is essential, it's also become intollerable for many. Entitlement, lack of respect and selfishness has lead to this. Really people have come to truly believe the marketing want which has been relentlessly heaped upon them. Society has abandoned men, men are now abandoning society. The problem is that men and masculinity is what keeps family and therefore society functional. We fall.
[–]user_miki23 points24 points25 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So nothing about divorces,nothing about alimony and child support, nothing about family courts, nothing about reproductive rights,nothing about women hypergamy ,so nothing about changing the laws to attract more men.
I'm disappointed.It pains me to see that.
At least he didn't use incel word.
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[–]Sir_manalot8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the truth of the matter.
Men fuck women disregardless of how they act and look what they have become.
Society treates men like shit disregardless of what they do and now we have a bunch of demotivated, lazy men in response.
If society hates toxic men so much, stop empowering and fucking toxic men. Otherwise,the only response is to tell them STFU and walk away.
[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Shaming doesn't work on us. We are men, not women.
[–]Sir_manalot11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
To be honest, shame is usually very, very effective against men.
But it has diminishing returns.
And foe teh past 30 or so years, the only thing they did was shame men. And when men did what they were told to do, it hurt them. And when they said something about it, they were shamed some more.
[–]Captainbuttman4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Shame needs its partner, praise, to be most effective. But praise has died in our society.
[–]I-am-the-lul1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All stick and no carrot.
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[–]Belrick_NZ8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
he's right that nuclear family with men at the helm are essential for western civilization
fuck this civilization and it's alimony feminism child custody mgm male rape acceptance cuckoldry etc. let it burn
[–]gtowerthrowaway13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why is it all on men? Why do men have to build and attract?
Didn't women want equality and all that? Men have built and created for millennia.
Let women up their game for once.
[–]Sir_manalot0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That will never happen.
As they never wanted equality, for they always had more then equality.
[–]Itiswrittenkjv16119 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
SEARCH FOR THE UNICORN! IT'S REAL!!!!!
[–]john_moura6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Found out there are no girls with the same values and mindset as I have.
[–]Keisuke_Takahiro7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
While I agree traditional western culture requires men to participate in the nuclear family to flourish, there are no longer any incentives to do so.
MGTOW isn't weak, but it definitely isn't here to "save" western society.
The age of men will soon be here and the modern man will be redefined.
[–]hundakuten986 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
cOWarDS!!!!
[–]pingpongdong103 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
wHo HuRt YoU?!
[–]TheGreatEvil6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well, that is an insult, not an argument, so we don't have to answer that. That guy can show us what a real man is. You got this. You give that woman every privilege she deserves. I'm sure the sexist laws will just disappear
[–]Sir_manalot1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He is an incel, get cannot show us.
[–]CiceroVoltaire4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh look, another simp telling others what's best for them. If he's older he may have a good one not poisoned by feminism, but should she change her mind, he'll see what's arrayed against him.
I lived on the plantation for about 23 years. Lost half my wealth, pay alimony and child support.
Now I'm all about me, myself and I - like I was during my Chad days in my 20s, but my priorities are different - freedom and wealth, not women and sex.
FTW and modern society. Let it all crash and burn.
Indifferent. Invisible. Selfish. Greedy. Sadist. Avarice.
Non serviam.
Feminism isn't a poison.
Feminism is what women really are and want to be (and always wanted to be).
Powerful men use to create rules and empower men to keep women in check and to keep the incels (use to be called barbarians) compliant.
But now powerful men are more interested in empowering women instead.
[–]ThrowThrowThrone3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The nuclear family is essential for western culture to flourish. It pains me to see many women go feminist (victims) instead of building their lives to attract that man with the same values and mindset.
[–]Sir_manalot5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Who cares?
Women wanted this and have killed so many innocent babies to get what they want.
Can you hear the screams of all the men who committed suicide because of the selfishness of women?
Can you hear the cries of women tossing away everything our ancestors built with their blood and tears.
Women are not victims, they are the perpetrator.
[–]ThrowThrowThrone1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was trying to follow the cadence of the OP. "Playing victim" just didn't fit the cadence.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
MGTOW are cowards? I suppose that I am afraid of being divorce-raped and being emasculated to the bone... but is it an irrational fear to recognize the divorce statistics and cultural attitudes toward masculinity?
At this point, fuck Western Culture - salvage the good parts, and throw away the rest.
Nuclear family, nuclear family, nuclear family... As if it's A) a good thing to structure the family around newly weds and away from an older patriarch/extended family, and B) that nuclear family (that "essential" character) is exclusive to Western Culture.
Fuck these tradcons - I'm not going down on their sinking ship.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why is it our fault?
Always is.
[–]Captainbuttman0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
blame women? ever? NO!!!!
Thats why
[–]Tyranid_Swarmlord3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Be my guest then if you wanna sacrifice yourself for a 'culture'.
Leave MGTOW out of that mess.
[–]Suited_Vulture3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have no responsibility and/or desire to sacrifice myself and my well-being for a society that hates me just because I am male. Go play in traffic, asshole.
[–]ShouldaGoneMGTOW4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ha! This guy absolutely nailed it. This sub is so full of you incel losers, it makes me ashamed to be man. Just today I married my 3rd wife and I feel like such a goddamn hero. Meanwhile, you virgins are hiding from a little commitment, you just dont understand how to treat a woman. Now that I let my wife and her boyfriend take turns on me in bed, I feel so much manlier.
[–]Lord-Aether2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would challenge this guy. Show me a woman I’d actually be attracted to if I knew everything about them?
[–]MuleFool422 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
More shaming tactics. When will society realize that that dog doesn't hunt any more. MGTOWs are indifferent to criticism and feminist shaming tactics, they're out living their own lives.
[–]SpinPlates2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is exactly why you do not speak of redpill/MGTOW.
"I'd love to get married and have a family but I just haven't found the right girl yet" ......
"Maybe I'll meet one on my solo trip through Thailand."
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lol @ "same values and mindset".
Even if you find a woman that appears to share your mindset, everything about her will change the instant she feels secure in the relationship.
Then it's bye bye sex, hello nagging. Whoever you were before suddenly isn't good enough. She'll start reshaping you into something new because she isn't haaaaappy and it therefore must be your fault.
Finding a woman to share values/mindset/lifestyle with is impossible because of this phenomenon. There can be no true peace or cooperation in a relationshit with a woman. Her nature is to complain and incite shit, and try to change you, so "sharing" in any productive fashion ain't gonna happen. She's too busy trying to grind you into emotional paste.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My libertarian ex girlfriend baby mama accused me of being a bootlick8ng statist. In the next sentence will threaten to go back to court for more child support. Then she says trump will send a swat team to my door. She sent the cops to arrest me twice, and that's exactly what they did.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She sounds like pure crazy, it's ridiculous that women can do all this shit to men just based on their lying words.
[–]Fist_of_the_mad_gods1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
<yawn> more shaming language.
[–]38yearsoffreefallin1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Coward? Why not just get in the back of the bus? Why not get back on the plantation? It takes guts and strength to walk away from the only world you've ever known and especially to do so in peace. This guy is a cuck.
[–]Teflon081911 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well guys, he called us cowards. Time to pack it up and go back to a life of servitude.
[–]nunhgrader1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Same values and mindset (erroneous NAWALT-type thinking). Lol! I don't wish bad things on others - instead - I wish this simp luck with that minefield!
[–]arealchillbrownie0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah, dont wish him luck. He chose to walk theu that minefield like a dumbass, so let him reap his rewards. Once he gets divorce raped he'll be singing a very different tune.... if hes smart
I almost hope he manages to stay this clueless for the rest of his life. A little redpill would probably actually kill him at this point.
[–]TonyMGTOW1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
We're cowards u say? It takes great strength to go MGTOW. A lot of men can't even bare the thought of being alone & not getting married. Keep getting burned suckers 👌 we'll be waiting ;)
[–]arealchillbrownie1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Doesnt take strength to go mgtow, it takes enlightenment. It takes strength to STAY mgtow and fight the programming
[–]Mgtow_troaway1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah this is a pre marriage mindset, very few men can sustain this kind of thinking into a marriage or after a divorce.
[–]CeleritySteam1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So I have a new trolling red pill for countering the tradcucks.
Did you know that "nuclear family" tradcucks love sperging out about is actually a recent invention, as in there are still people alive from before it? It's true. Before that you had the extended family and the community and people actually did have bonds with those around them. The nuclear family removed those, leaving people mostly isolated from their support networks (even before the thot began deliberately isolating you further so she has greater control).
Now consider just (((who))) would want people isolated and why the same tradcucks that rage against this group support the divisive measures they have taken. Not just with the nuclear family, but in terms of supporting consumerism (subsidizing a female is subsidizing consumerism because they are 85% of purchases and most of that money is yours), giving (((their))) businesses plenty of money going in (banking/credit, real estate, diamonds), and out (divorce court, real estate again, more banking/credit).
After all if you hate and oppose a group you wouldn't empower them at every turn would you? Really makes you think. And if you backtrace the problem far enough the tradcuck's religion is designed as (((their))) slave religion. Which again really makes you think. And it explains why they attack everyone who doesn't support their masters instead of say... attacking the thots for not doing their one job of making MUH WHITE BABIES. They are, after all the sources of them. At least for now.
Oh and females do not have any values or mindset whatsoever so good job living in a fantasy world there.
[–]Trail_of_Jeers1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Unpopular opinion: I agree. Family is important to society. People of virtue and intelligence should have kids, raise them well, and achieve great things.
but
Feminism ruined that path. You won't get dudes back on the plantation. No right and sane man will be stung again. We aren't women.
[–]TheSud0071 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So hang on? I am supposed to work my ass off so I can hopefully attract some girl that isn't over weight, crazy and has the same values as me. So I can spend a fourth of my income on some metal ring with a jewel on top, spend even more on a big party about her and then continue working my ass off and hoping she isn't going to divorce me and take half the shit I've worked my ass off for the past however many years? Damn why didn't someone tell me this sooner! Goodbye MGTOW ✌🏼 😂😂🤦🏼♂️
[–]tramese1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
when blue pillers give advice. the blind leading the blind.
[–]simplystimpy1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Western Culture "flourished" only because of inventions and discoveries made by a handful of eccentric men throughout history, most of whom were never married.
[–]SPI-MGTOW1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love how morons keep trying shaming language on MGTOWs thinking "This time it's going to work!". Sorry, the plantation is still just tradcucks
[–]wolfoftheworld0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ideologies like this are also what started the rise of the Nazi empire and led to WW2. Point being, live and let live without the majority's influence.
Fuck that noise. I'm not harming anyone by living the life I want to.
[–]cali81120 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Of course it is essential. No arguing that. We are being out bred by other cultures that can’t wait to replace us all. ((They))) have made it damn near impossible to live the life essential to our culture flourishing.
Sadly my best friend falls firmly into this category. Some people just can’t be redpilled.
Once he gets married then faked across the coals in divorce court, maybe he'll wake up. Maybe
[–]FBE_Warframe0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What same mindset?
[–]SFM_20460 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I build my life for myself....whoever typed that shit can go fuck themselves...live life for thyself and put no one above you
[–]Nuverro0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck tradcucks.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
AWALT. No such thing has a marriageable women in current yr
[–]uniptf0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The base reality is that men and women don't share the same values and mindset. Never have, never will. And no matter what you do and provide, they'll never be truly satisfied, loyal, devoted, giving, and supportive, like men will for women before said men come to their senses.
Don't be fools. Go, and stay on, your own way.
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Freedom is terrifying to some men
[–]LiveTheTruth3210 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This "system" he speaks of is built where the men have no rights and women are allowed to do what they please both directly and indirectly harming the man even though he may be the provider. The age of the nuclear family dream has exploded and there is fallout falling from the sky. Give it a few more decades and we will be in a winter we cannot recover from. We are done!
[–]Kid_Dragneel0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The entire idea of “oh. I’ll get this job. She’ll love that” and “better buy these clothes, she’s gonna love them” oh hey “I’ll drive this car cause she’s gonna be crazy about it!” I can’t imagine waking up one day and realizing that everything I do, wear, own, and how I act is something that I myself don’t like, but I have done just to attract someone to me. It’s almost as if they aren’t attracted to YOU but....
Building my life to cut my net worth by 90% at the hands of some feminist whale. Avoiding that trainwreck is cowardice? Prudence is the correct term. And if taking care of myself instead of serving as a cunt's future ATM is cowardice, then fuck the term, I'll wear that badge.
throw your body into the broken machine or else you're a coward!
How about no.
[–]Megitgud0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tradcons are stuck on 19th century while disregarding the risk assessment of current laws. They use shame as projection because they fear peer pressure, like crabs in a bucket (if i'm not free you can't be either).
It takes actual balls to stand up for yourself when the world tells you not to, reject gynocentric society and be hated by all sides.
[–]theoracleofosiris0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
TIL not wanting to play Russian roulette is cowardly
Protip tradcucks: I don't care if Western society flourishes. It's probably got enough steam left to get through my life, and after that, I don't give a shit.
As for attracting a girl with the same values, they don't exist.
[–]Quenten010 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Deez nutz boi
[–]ColdStoryBro0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He seems brave enough to make up for all of us. Let him crucify himself for the good of the nuclear family.
[–]Whirrlz0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have to build my life. Just to attract a girl. The fuck lol. Fuck all that. Working my ass off just to get a woman. Nooooooo. Not worth it.
Actually, to some degree he has a point. That being said, there are not women that share the same values and mindset as I do any more. They have gone extinct.
[–]MagaLikeUMeanIt-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well... Im not a fan of the term coward in this instance, but he's not entirely wrong in his assessment.
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