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Even more dangerous is encountering a pair of narcs, female with a male orbiter... they don't even have to truly be an orbiter.. just exist in some fucked up sort of relationship, and you've got yourself a disaster.
I have personally had to deal with one couple in a professional setting that has caused more headache than I care to admit, yet senior leadership is afraid to do anything about either of them.
The problem is, the guy is married and the girl is not. Yet they are both in a "secret" yet very visible relationship. Both are incredibly fucked up people, with terrible insecurities, borderline psychopathic behavior, are over the top with their narc traits.
When they met, it's like everyone could see the sparks and tension between them. It was like the guy was having regrets for not having met her before getting married and having kids.
From the list above:
-They both stroke each other off about how seemingly important they think they are, and shit talk anyone who doesn't agree.
-The entitlement is beyond reproach. If they aren't being served on a platter, they are causing fights with other employees and setting people up/sabotaging them.
-They constantly like to drop names of senior leaders as if they work with them on a daily basis, often in a setting that is seemingly to shame other employees because they too do not make a habit out of sending personal social media messages to senior officials (inappropriate)
-Achievements and talents get bloated and stroked between them, constantly talking about how they are the only competent people in the organization. Often they are caught messaging one another constantly. When questioned by fellow employees about what's so damned important, they often will blatantly admit they are expressing frustration to one another with how everyone is an idiot.
-The fantasies of success/power/beauty of a perfect mate is seen in their eyes -they're infatuated with one another. They light up the room when they are around.
-They only associate with each other, because they are only good enough for each other. Even the guys wife is apparently not good enough. Literally everyone else on earth is scum by comparison. They are adam and eve incarnate. .
-You cannot have conversations, even in a serious meeting, without them trying to dominate and belittle people and make fun of people. Discipline action has been taken on both of them for publicly making rude remarks towards other employees. Yet they always come to each others defense, and try to claim those comments never happened -even with a room full of witnesses.
-Special favors -don't even get me started. Constantly wanting out of state travel assignments together, wanting special work assignments together, etc.
-Will always take advantage of people. Always. And laugh about it.
-Needs of others? What is that?
-Envious of others? Yea, people who are competent, do their damned job, do it well, and are actual leaders. But they'll never admit that. They will NEVER admit they aren't the 100% best. But it's oh so obvious their insecurities and jealousy are because they are actual failures in every regard. So many times I've had to reassign work, because they simply cannot understand shit, fuck shit up, or just straight fail to even do shit, which has caused my team to get behind on something, so it impacts my people and I have to reassign things and shuffle people around.
-Arrogance? To the moon and back.
-Best of everything? They purchase brand name PPE out of pocket, when decent grade equipment is provided free of charge... because they can't be caught dead wearing the same as everyone else. They purchase the most expensive they can find, and it never gets used or dirty. Same with their personal vehicles, clothing etc.
These two people have caused an administrative nightmare for me and fellow command staff. Senior leadership will not do anything. It has been bumped up the CoC numerous times, with numerous documented instances of abuses to personnel, insubordination, waste and abuse of resources, inappropriate fraternization, blatant disregard for orders, blatant disrespect, unsafe work attitude, etc.
The two of them have been caught having relations on the job -why they are untouchable. One of the senior leaders caught them, but was by himself.
These two being the insane pair that they are, immediately threatened him, that if anything were to be done about that particular instance... or anything else moving forward... the two of them would have an entirely different story of what happened there. And if need be, they could have other stories that take place at another time, in another place.
And believe me when I say this is also not isolated. They have made multiple threats to multiple people over the slightest things.
The best solution senior leadership has come up with, is to just pigeon hole them. Which seems to work at least somewhat okay. It's not fair to other personnel to let them get by doing literally nothing and get paid, but it keeps them away from people 60-70% of the time. There are still instances where they are around, but it's mitigated to the best of their ability.
My fucking recommendation was to just have a set of balls and cut them both loose eighteen fucking steps ago.
Dear god, if you've never been around such a dynamic duo, I hope and pray you never do. I was never directly over either of them, but some of my people were working alongside of them, and I had to step into a lot of shit sandwich situations. For a period of several months, I was keeping a stress headache from just the possibility of what would go wrong. I still do now, but they are mostly just off in the aether, out of sight and out of mind these days. I occasionally see one of them. The guy I'm lucky if I run into once every 3-4 months.
Occasionally my team will have to do something that involves one or the other. They are at least somewhat separated now, at least while on duty. They apparently spend every waking moment talking over messaging apps, when removed by distance, and spend literally every weekend together under some excuses about him travelling for work. That was a thing, actually. They drug the organization into their weekend romance, when his wife started asking questions. I guess he was given something to work with, because it's supposedly still going on.
My standing orders to my people, and also up the chain -is that myself nor my people, will be in a room alone with either of them. Someone higher than myself will be present or we simply will not be there. No room for discussion. Any request or interaction from them via email, phone, text, written, or in person will be verified by their immediate supervisor, and will be replied to with CC to one level higher.
These sick and twisted fucks have already cost a couple of people their jobs, ruined some lives, ruined multiple reputations, and they smile and laugh about it like it's entertainment. I no longer take chances with myself or my people.
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If you happen to identify a narcissist, and they know they've been discovered, they become incredibly vulnerable and will seek to destroy you for seeing through their mask.
They will begin using subterfuge and stealth to damage your reputation before you even know anything is going on. It will be all smiles to your face for months before you've even got a hint that they're up to anything.
Then they'll start manipulating you and the people around you to try and shield themselves from blowback. They'll try to set themselves up so that anything bad that happens from their sabotage will be looked upon as your fault, and can even try to make it seem like they are a supporting role only trying to help you.
And when they've got you alone, when they know they are safe to do so, they'll tear you down completely. That's when they'll let you know that you are completely and totally under their control. They might even literally tell you what they've done and how they have planned your demise, and how there is nothing you can do about it, and how nobody will believe you -because they are very likely right. Their maneuvering has set them up so that most of the time, without concrete evidence, most people won't.
These people are psychological terrorists who can drive perfectly sane and rational people to suicide.
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