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[–]slap_dash61 points62 points63 points 9 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link
I love how the women's stem is kind of chronological.
we have the selfies in tweeting in the late teens and 20s
then the eating into the 30s when her life is falling apart and she can't find a man to meet her high expectations..
and then the late 30s to 40s... yes. when she gets to blame the men for all of her problems.
[–]burtcoins[S] 36 points37 points38 points 9 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link
they seek out "STEM" degrees because they know its a free ride. they an literally subsist for decades by declaring "inequality" any time they are forced to do anything, take responsibility for anything, or even show up. I've seen it with my own eyes.
They are turning the sciences and applied sciences into a soap opera.
[–]Wanadan2426 points27 points28 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I call bullshit; at a pretty good science school in the north east and the women in my classes and stem field in general there are very serious about it. You must have been rejected by some chick in your class and are angry lol
[–]Cadmium_Mellow 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's this whole subreddit.
[–]uglybaldmofo2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
keyword : 'school'
[–]slap_dash3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
do you think women should not be allowed in these fields then? what would you find to be a good solution?
[–]Ovendice64 points65 points66 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Not be allowed? Who is not ALLOWING women into STEM?!? The government and the schools PAY, BRIBE women with CASH to go into STEM majors and of course 99% of the women who take the $ and then go into STEM majors only last about 2 weeks when they realize they're not intelligent enough for STEM or it's far too boring and challenging for them and it doesn't involve manipulating people with false accusations, blackmail, sex, lies, deception, gas lighting and acting flaky, women's favorite subjects besides Feminism and women are 'oppressed' which is a 2 year old, infantile, horrifically simplistic and plain WRONG assessment of why women don't achieve anything.
The reason women don't go into STEM IS BECAUSE WOMEN DO NOT WANT TO GO INTO STEM. Not for real anyway, they give it lip service, but are too cowardly or stupid or both to roll up their sleeves and do it. The 'solution?' Let women do whatever the fuck they want! And do you know what 84% of women polled want? They want to go back into the KITCHEN: https://www.forbes.com/sites/meghancasserly/2012/09/12/is-opting-out-the-new-american-dream-for-working-women/#3cf5d26f623a .. So not only is Feminism DEAD and buried, women WANT to go back to being housewives and say goodbye to the work world.
[–]Whiskeybandit67 17 points18 points19 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
From the Forbes article.
What’s more, more than one in three resent their partner for not earning enough to make that dream a reality
[–]ManIsWalking14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
I'd like to add some clarity to your statement, brother. A couple can happily live off meager earnings. It doesn't take much to put a roof over your head and food in your stomach. The issue at hand is the mass majority of women get pleasure over hallow materialistic gains.
Materialistic desires will never satisfy anyone. There will always be a new model car, tv, phone, house, etc. One would never find happiness if it comes with a price tag, as that happiness is never final.
Many men make at least over 60k which is more than enough for a comfortable life for two. But women are not satisfied with a 5 year old car, a 2 year old phone, or a 10 year old house. This causes a vicious cycle of perceived ineptitude, on her part, towards her man. They mistake luxuries for necessities, and they refuse to work to earn these luxuries. Placing the sole responsibility on her partner to provide vapid happiness that she will never obtain.
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[–]ManIsWalking5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I whole heartedly agree. Women have simply forgotten what it means to be a woman. They threw away every endearing quality a woman has when they decided to turn their backs on family life.
"Where have all the good men gone?" Perhaps they are waiting for a "real woman."
It's a shame that men today have to romanticize a woman mending buttons, balancing honest finances, or making bone stock. If any of you ever find such a girl, keep her, she's the last of her kind.
[–]Ovendice1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol And why are most men earning so much less than they were 30-40 years ago? Because of women diluting the business world, filling it with their dead, useless weight just getting in the way and driving down wages AND taking all of the middle management jobs that pay well that men used to have.
Not to even mention women today are FAR, FAR too spiteful, toxic, whorish, bossy cunts, fat, tatted up and trashy and talk down to men, ALL men .. and no man is going to support some PIECE OF SHIT LIKE THAT! Slave all day to come home to an empty house while your wife is out fucking around every night like almost all women do now, blowing all of your hard earned money while she sits on her ass and doesn't work? HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA!! No man of any quality with even 1 IQ point is going tolerate that! Even if he DID, it would still be over in no time!
So women can just keep on working in those SHIT jobs they choose, have no life and miserable; that's what you get for being nothing but piles of shit with arms and legs!
[–]burtcoins[S] 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
exactly. ^ great post.
[–]Trail_of_Jeers1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wonder if I can declare myself a Trans woman and get a free ride in STEM.
[–]DeusExMaximum12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Just do it by merit.
That's the way it's supposed to be. No one gets any special advantage for being born a certain way, having a certain characteristic or beholding a special opinion.
The ones who succeed get to move on while the ones who fail/cheat are removed/kept behind.
You'll soon see that women are a rare sight in such an environment. The only reason why you see them in STEM currently is because the system panders them so much while hindering men to give women a further advantage competitively.
[–]burtcoins[S] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yes to her the "problem" is that women should get as much money as the men get in these fields.
it has nothing to do with contributions, ability or even DESIRE, no its all about money. that's all women ever think about.
[–]burtcoins[S] 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
hi femanon. WOMEN HAVE NEVER BEEN BARRED FROM THESE FIELDS.
they just can't do it, and in order for them to populate these salaried positions they need handicaps, taxpayer money, and free "awards" to make it look like they actually make a fucking difference.
[–]devil272 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just to be correct they have been banned from these fields in the past. Just not for the last hundred years. (Not arguing for affirmative action, just factual correctness. Agree with you on this women are harassed out of stem nonsense propagated by leftists.)
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[–]burtcoins[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
do you have proof that women have ever even been remotely functional in these fields?
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[–]devil270 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Anecdotal evidence cough cough! Doesn't know what statistics are cough cough!
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[–]devil270 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
More than enough evidence to show that women aren't as good as men at certain tasks like abstract thinking (again a statistical statement). But go ahead denying science.
[–]DIDNT_READ_YOUR_SHIT1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/000/554/facepalm.jpg
[–]plutosheen0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Women can't handle STEM. Sure they can pass the classes with all their boyfriends helping them do their homework but once they're working they become liabilities. Then after a few years of messing things up, the married ones start to have babies and oh it's the toughest job in the world!
[–]a17c81a340 points41 points42 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You guys need to look up STEAM - the A is for ARTS. LOL.
Steaming pile of bullshit alright.
[–]burtcoins[S] 25 points26 points27 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
why do women corrupt ANYTHING THEY GO NEAR?
A: they are inferior in every way.
[–]keltsbeard8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, that's getting promoted here in Florida. Who knew an interpretation dance recital is on par with an architect?
[–]oursland5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
STREAM - the R is for READING
[–]slowandstationary18 points19 points20 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I am a man proudly going my own way but you guys just seem bitter. Being your own independent man need not mean you degrade women in the process. It just looks like you're lashing out as a defence mechanism. Stand up for yourselves without stepping on others.
[–]Ebrg0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This sub helps men to pass the anger phase. Bitterness is the result.
[–]divorcedbp8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Liberty Guns Beer Tits
[–]nocivo9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Please guys, MGTOW doesn't need to bash woman. Just ignore them.
[–]johnnyblorf 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Man-Hating should just be Misandry.
[–]nemosolder7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
good work
[–]Secret_Combo6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm a college student researching STEM as my major. This couldn't be more accurate.
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[–]PaulMurrayCbr5 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
What a good question! Perhaps you might put a little thought into working out why for yourself.
[–]4169726f6e7 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Wait a minute.. something's not right.. where's Gender studies!?
[–]LynxLogix4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Kind of embarrassing to see posts like this to be honest. This is just blatantly sexist and not even true. There are a lot of nasty and evil things about women, but right now we look like the catty ones.
[–]burtcoins[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
leave femanon
[–]LynxLogix3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh grow up. What are you, 16? If you are the ideal male, I rather be a female. Considering my distaste for them, that's saying something.
[–]Mac2903 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link
Haven't there been many studies that show that women are naturally better at mathematics? I remember that from a few years ago. That could have been propaganda, I'm not sure. But assuming it's true, that really tells you something.
[–]BoobToArmRatio15 points16 points17 points 9 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
Women are good at memorizing and regurgitating formulas so I think they are better at math up to a certain point. Basic math like calculus, differential equations, and linear algebra they are great at. But once you start diving deeper into number theory, discrete math, abstract algebra, non-Euclidean geometry and generally doing proofs and studying theory rather than applications the women tend to disappear. Of course most men never reach that point either, but the people who do reach it are almost exclusively men.
Girls do better than boys at math up to a certain point in the curriculum, when you have to actually begin understanding the shit.
Girls do better than boys in most academic pursuits until their hormones kick in. There's nothing so common as a brightly intelligent 10-year-old girl who goes stupid and flaky and "boy mad" once she starts getting her period.
Girls do better than boys in classes taught and marked by women. It has been shown repeatedly that women teachers systematically mark boys down. If you want your son to do ok in school, concentrate on penmanship.
[–]Hillary_For_Prison2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Women don't last nearly that long. Most tap out at college algebra when they even try.
[–]BoobToArmRatio0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I can only speak from my personal experience, but I attended a top engineering school in the US and the undergraduate math and statistics courses had 25-40% women. I don't think the male domination in math begins until grad school.
Undergrad engineering classes on the other hand were only 5-15% women depending on what field. Graduate engineering students were almost exclusively men.
[–]Hillary_For_Prison0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I guess we had slightly different experiences then. I attended college for mechanical engineering back in the early 2000s. Women made up between 5-15% of the engineering department in my college - a large midwestern college known for engineering and agriculture.
The math classes I took during my freshman year were calc 2 and 3. They were heavily male, probably little more than 20% female.
I made money on the side tutoring elementary education majors on their "math for elementary education" classes. It was barely math. I tutored a couple in college algebra as well.
I think every major has a basic math requirement. Most women choose pud majors, low value-high cost educations with little real preparation for the real world. Frankly, very few ever attempt the hard stuff. The few that do can turn out alright but most go to college just to get their Mrs. Degree.
[–]burtcoins[S] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
what the hell are you talking about femanon?
get the fuck off this sub.
[–]BoobToArmRatio7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
From the level of your reading comprehension it's clear that you don't understand my point. The American education system caters to women and qualifies students based on feminine traits. We know this because more of them graduate and have access to higher education. Basic math is just memorizing formulas and applying them to simple problems. Women can do that, it's not difficult. In fact, it's certainly possible that more of them are capable of it than men because of how little thinking outside the box it requires.
However, in the realm of advanced mathematics it's all men. It's not because of some patriarchal conspiracy, the smartest men are just better at abstract theory and research than the smartest women.
[–]burtcoins[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
who cares if they have the ability to repeat things?
even if they had whatever brain power is required to be a mathematician(and they clearly dont) it still doesnt matter.
because when a woman turns 30 or so, she NEEDS TO HAVE CHILDREN and at that point can no longer pursue a career. Because women must be mothers for society to be stable, they never gain enough experience in anything to rival men.
the problem runs much deeper, not only is it not economical to have women mathematicians, but their entire biology makes it difficult if not impossible to do any profession well. For instance women that are stressed in careers even have trouble conceiving.
the entire edifice of Feminism is a lie fed to women that tells them it will improve their life, fed to society that tells them its ethical and "equal" to give women money so they can imitate and imposter men, and fed to men as a moral imperative. It leave women destitute, society broke and men wonder- WTF happened here?
[–]BoobToArmRatio3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I don't disagree with you, I was replying to the guy who said there were studies showing women were better at math. Those studies are likely just showing that women are better at memorizing and regurgitating shit, which is what most people think math is, because most people haven't studied it very deeply.
[–]burtcoins[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I argue that women are even better at that. they typically have the attention span of a lower mammal.
[–]BoobToArmRatio10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
You are welcome to argue that and you may well be correct.
But from my personal experience in the undergraduate level math courses that I took, women generally scored better than men on tests. Of course, this is a subset of women who actively chose to pursue STEM and many of them were Asian, but overall I was still impressed at their test taking abilities in math courses.
At the same time, none of them went on to pursue PhDs in math or related fields. Most found a corporate job after undergrad and then tried to get with a director/partner/executive at their firm. AWALT!
[–]burtcoins[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
femanon GTFO
women suck at math.
women suck at anything that requires a specific answer to.https://www.aei.org/publication/2016-sat-test-results-confirm-pattern-thats-persisted-for-45-years-high-school-boys-are-better-at-math-than-girls/
of course women try to hamster their way out of this,https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/good-thinking/201403/why-the-gender-difference-sat-math-doesnt-matter
[–]BoobToArmRatio13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Your link shows a difference of 40 points on the SAT. 540 to 500 - both scores I would consider mentally handicapped. Neither score would even get you into a STEM program at a mediocre university so the only point you're that makes is that the average American high school student is terrible at math regardless of gender.
In fact, you've reiterated my point. SAT is an IQ/critical thinking test whereas an undergraduate math course like multi-variable calculus or linear algebra is mostly rote memorization of formulas and methods. I know more than one guy who got an 800 on his math SAT and still managed to fail an undergraduate math course. Scoring well in an undergrad math course is a lot more about the hours you put in and less about raw intelligence, which is why I think women do better at it. They are willing to put in the hours because they have something to prove whereas guys feel like they have better shit to do in college than memorize equations.
You are comparing the genders in the overall population, I'm only looking at a subset of the population so we are certainly going to come to different conclusions. You are embarrassing yourself though if you think an average score of 540 over 500 on the math section of the SAT demonstrates the mental superiority of men. That's like saying the person who got a D on the test is smarter than the person who got a D-. Maybe it's true, but who gives a fuck, they're both idiots.
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The main reason women do worse on the SAT-M is because far more women than men take the SAT i.e. you got the most intelligent 40% of men competing againt the most intelligent 60% of women. Shown for instance here by Earl Hunt.
There is a "real" gap in math achievement between men and women but it's only about 0.1 SD (or 10 points on the SAT) as seen in NAEP data. For the reason mentioned above the gap is larger in the test taking population
[–]burtcoins0 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
just shut your stupid mouth
[–]gingersnap972 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Nice.
[–]burtcoins[S] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
better at Mathematics?
how many things have been discovered in the field of mathematics by men?
what kind of total garbage is that?
[–]WanderlustYouth2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Most women suck at higher level math, and the women who do teach higher level math suck a teaching it. They teach the way they talk.
[–]burtcoins[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
yep they suck at it all, but we ARE REQUIRED TO HIRE THEM, PAY THEM AND EVEN LISTEN TO THEM.
[–]WanderlustYouth1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's horrible man and if you don't show up to their class they take it personally and WANT to fail you, I just want pure analytical learning about what I really need in math, there's no point of spending an hour on the limit definition of an integral
[–]burtcoins[S] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
why we should start MGTOW university
there's a reason why they call it a BACHELORS DEGREE
[–]klethra8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
From the Latin "baccalaureus" or "student with the first degree"
Come on, now. Don't you have the attention span to actually research your shit?
[–]Mac2900 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was asking, not making a statement. I swear I saw that somewhere. But the other responders seem to have laid out the differences.
[–]fretit0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Where on earth have you heard that (hint: you haven't)? The gap has been around for a very long time and can be seen through so many metrics. Here is a simple one: 2015 SAT test results confirm pattern that’s persisted for 40+ years — high school boys are better at math than girls. Maybe it is different in other countries.
[–]Luce_Bree4 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
LOL. This is one of my favorite things ever
[–]the_unseen_one2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I really wish I could see this shit fast forward a few generations, just to show feminists that women don't want to be in STEM, most want to be do nothing lazy sows that have men provide for them. After generations of women, with every opportunity to choose something else, still choose to be vapid, stupid whores, how could anyone seriously argue that women are as interested/capable of math and science as men as a whole when they can't be bothered to do the simplest shit?
[–]burtcoins[S] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
how could anyone seriously argue that women are as interested/capable of math and science as men as a whole when they can't be bothered to do the simplest shit?
its the women arguing it of course
[–]Ontrus 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mainstream culture denies our genetic heritage, but isn't it interesting that women are actually leading in using STEM products so long as they are social, like smartphones and social networks? But they never had any interest in building them.
[–]DenyHerYourEssence1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Man-hating" should be replaced with "Complaining" and the bottom row would be perfect. "Man-hating" isn't generic enough. Coincidentally: complaints, excuses, and lack of interest are the only real barriers between women and STEM careers.
[–]awalt_mgtow1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Genius!!!
[–]migmigtow0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There is a saying in German that can be translated into English like this:
Cosmology: The science dealing with the universe at large. Cosmetics: The science dealing with woman's universe at large.
[–]redditfox2 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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