Dating apps are absolutely brutal for men.

anon_likes_tendies · 2021-03-02T20:13:16+00:00

Because online women still believe as 4s and 5s they’re entitled to a “sUpEr HaWt SiX fOoT tALL guY”

RatingsOutOfTen · 2021-03-02T20:32:58+00:00

Why does being online make women hyper selective?

Women get 100s of messages a day, and sort them out based on wittiness and attractiveness. All fat women think they are "thicc" because of this, and all post wall thin women think they have a bikini body because of this... all because they get the occassional hookup and constant messages.

Not one marriage proposal, though. How sad for them... but I don't feel bad.

deano413 · 2021-03-02T23:29:06+00:00

Women get 100's of messages a day, even the land whales get hit up by thirsty/chubby chasers. Then they filter them down to the ~5 best combos of looks/money/witty opener.

This becomes their standard. It doesn't matter that none of those guys they picked were interested in anything beyond a pump & dump. It doesn't matter they are serial daters bouncing from 1 girl to another because they check enough boxes to get ALL of them interested.

They got it once so they won't settle for anything less. Repeat for 2-5 years then the "all the good men are gone" complaints come rolling in.

daproest1 · 2021-03-03T00:04:59+00:00

Same here. 6’1, green eyes, beard, jacked, land whales only.

YouSaidChicken · 2021-03-02T23:30:58+00:00

Why risk swiping on a fat similar guy when she can get a Chad?

It's not rocket science.

famcz · 2021-03-03T00:24:26+00:00

Just don't do online dating. Only the top 10-20% of guys get consistent matches. And even then, many women use OLD for validation and not for dating. So don't feed the beast.

Hopefulwaters · 2021-03-03T00:35:24+00:00

I've talked about this before and elsewhere. But there is a bifurcation in the marketplace.

I think the difference is the massive change in technology has allowed for a huge change in choices. A couple of thoughts here:

The apps are still new from an evolution perspective; our brains haven't evolved to handle this level of choice.
We have known since Iyengar jam study was published in 2004 that our brain achieves analysis paralysis on choice pretty quickly - maxing out at about 6. So other studies that came after by Ariely, Shiller and others has shown that we quickly filter down to the best choice.

So let's run with it. If 2021, a woman installs any dating app, she has 100 choices in less than an hour. In 1950, she wouldn't have had 100 choices in her entire life. This magnitude of change can only lead to a natural raising of one's standards. While that raise in standards is normal, it has created a bifurcation in the market that we are now all paying for. Women raised their standards so high that only the top 10% will do. This result means the top 10% are drowning in choice while the 90% are in a desert. So the 10% will never commit. They come off as assholes, jerks and perverts because they're using those methods to quickly filter THEIR massive amount of choices down to easy lays. The 90% can't do anything to get laid so they become overly nice, cling, pay for dinners and coaches, pointlessly upgrade their wardrobe and photos and waste thousand of hours of their time. All women are chasing the same men and it is not good for anyone except the top 10% of men and a few women that luck out.

Change that to before technology, I think the amount of time and energy it took for women to meet one such quality choice let alone two forced her to make a decision that she now can almost endlessly delay. It was hard to travel outside your home let alone date outside. Now regularly people can and do date even internationally... Something that was once quite rare.

apexbamboozeler · 2021-03-02T23:15:36+00:00

3 out of my 4 girlfriends met me on Tinder (and all of them were good-looking). You should have more luck in city areas. What I've found is, when a woman really likes you, she'll pursue you on a dating app. I get liked by disgusting fatty NEETs too, they make up about 1/3 of the women liking me, then another half of them is Asian uni students... The ones I actually like back are about 1/10 lol.

Hang in there, someone who gets the tingles from you who you're on a wavelength with will come along, you just have to be patient.

Edit: but anyway, to try and answer your question -- there was a Tweet once from a woman on holiday in Paris saying she downloaded Tinder and "I wasn't disappointed!". That gives you a hint. Women are on there chasing after male models, basically.

2021-03-02T23:58:37+00:00

I mean, eh...dating apps show the red pill is real and that female nature can be quantified. Women are very easy to read. Unless you’re a 8-10 on the attraction scale, they’re pretty much a waste of any mans time.

Gaddammitkyle · 2021-03-03T00:10:09+00:00

Quality women don't need tinder. The men they are looking for approach in person.

MGTOWManofMystery · 2021-03-03T00:15:15+00:00

You are waking up to women's nature. Don't get angry, just try to deal with it. For example, eschew dating. Or, focus your online dating with women in other parts of the world that aren't full of land whales.

snowen776 · 2021-03-02T23:47:56+00:00

You gota have the "i dont give a fuck" attitude. Makes it a whole lot easier.

mizzoutiger1118 · 2021-03-03T00:15:07+00:00

80% of women desire 20% of men

I actually did get a few dates out of apps. Never a second one with any woman. Even just getting a date doesn't get you much.

UnearthlyDinosaur · 2021-03-03T00:42:06+00:00

If you find a hot one on OLD, she’s getting hit up by thousands of guys. You won’t have a chance. And she’s probably on there for validation.

To answer your question, yes, women online only want Chad. The woman who says “ no hookups” is fine with a hookup if it’s Chad.

viniciusmede · 2021-03-03T00:42:33+00:00

Dude, there is a famous quote here where I live that says:

"Women doesnt like men, they do like money".

You can be handsome at all, but there will always be a rich dude there is more "handsome" than you. That's why you should focus on your carreer.

Sorry for the bad english, this isnt my first language.

AndyCalling · 2021-03-03T00:50:46+00:00

My guess is that you have the silver tongue, but it's not at full strength on the dating apps as people tend not to read the profile whilst they're swiping faces. Just you wait until society gets through this apocalypse. Once there were things called 'pubs', 'clubs' and 'nightlife'. If we can only hold on to the knowledge from the before times, we can rebuild. We will slay them again brother. When the bunker opens.

...It's possible this never-ending UK lockdown is playing on my mind a bit.

2021-03-03T01:04:38+00:00

These statistics illustrate how men and women use Tinder differently. The researchers say that men seem to be much less discriminating — they are more likely to swipe right, but also much less likely to follow through with a message. Women, on the other hand, tend to swipe right when they are serious about connecting.

The researchers caution that these behaviors may be self-reinforcing. When men are swipe-happy on Tinder, women can get overwhelmed with attention, making them choosier. This makes men even more desperate, and even less discerning about who they like. So the situation descends into confusion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/26/why-everyone-is-miserable-on-tinder/

Dls95405 · 2021-03-03T00:53:10+00:00

Because millions of dudes who could never approach a woman irl are flooding them with validation online. They're now dopamine addicts, getting a little hit with every simp post. They will never be able to bond with a good man, he's not nearly as exciting as attention from men that comes from all over the world. Dating apps and social media have weaponized female nature. The genders are further apart than ever.

cliffy348801 · 2021-03-03T02:14:26+00:00

I matched with a hot girl... smart, PhD, had her stuff together.

we clicked.

Her demands were upfront. Even before the first date she said for us to work.. I sell my house and move 45 miles to her state as she isn't relocating to disrupt her kids...and get a vasectomy. She is catholic and doesn't believe in birth control.

I ghosted her like a guest star on Scooby Doo.

I'm happy working on my side business. I don't need this. GYOW

2021-03-03T01:44:20+00:00

I'm sorry, but I have almost no s(i)mpathy for any guy using dating apps. The vast majority of the userbase is male (75%+) simps who will do anything for a crumb of pussy. Also, a large percentage of the women there who aren't fake are just trying to get premium subscribers, free, meals, etc.

Also, this is compounded by the fact that dating apps are designed to keep customers (especially men) coming back for more, so you have to pay to contact gals just to have most ghost you in no time flat. You are much, much better off dating irl (but by how much, I wouldn't know).

Once again, I'm sorry, but if you are using dating apps, I will question whether you are a rational person. If you must date, get to know people organically in person or online somewhere else. None of this dating app crap. Most guys on there become desperate and self hating because they are so starved for attention. Don't use them unless you are a masochist or are researching what those LVW think of men. Seriously. Whatever spot you are in life, don't use Tinder/Hinge/Bumble unless you want to be a slave to pussy

TraehNoil · 2021-03-03T02:39:43+00:00

Dating apps will destroy your confidence man. Please get off of them

Blissbynature · 2021-03-03T03:23:16+00:00

I think it's assumed (probably correctly) that just by being on a dating app there is something wrong with you so it automatically knocks you down in meat market value.

AzoZyten · 2021-03-03T01:47:36+00:00

I have had a similar experience. I would not say I am only liked by land whales, but I would say 75% of women that liked me were less attractive, 20% were about comparable a little better or worse, and 5% were absolutely hot. There was also definitely an inverse correlation between how engaged chicks were in the conversation and how attractive they were. If they were in the 5% they almost always would give brief responses, hot women have thousands of options. Oh, and I will add that at least half of the portion of women that were less attractive than me were landwhales. Sometimes I wish I found men attractive.

driftwood7386 · 2021-03-03T02:24:04+00:00

Promoting insta and only fans man. They are getting Simps to follow their IG in hopes of having enough followers to be noticed and make money that doesn’t involve selling their pussy.

ronoda12 · 2021-03-03T02:25:19+00:00

Men swipe right on 65% of women. Women swipe right on 5% of men. Unless your pics convey you are in top 5% you have no chance. Yes it is that bad.

timleykis101 · 2021-03-03T02:40:19+00:00

Its the 80/20 rule. 80% of women are only interested in the "top" a 20% men.

It won't be until men stop using these apps that the attitude will change.

2021-03-03T02:56:06+00:00

I'm an Occam's Razor kind of guy. The simplest answer is probably the most likely. I would guess a similar dopamine response as online shopping. In my opinion, who gives a shit? There doesn't seem to be anything genuine about anything online so why give it any credence? Be direct, be honest, and don't lose sight of who you are as a man. Regardless of your intention all you need is one to say yes. Getting hung up on the why's is the beta shit that women avoid anyway.

Zuck7980 · 2021-03-03T03:32:29+00:00

The dating game is not fair for nem especially when it comes to online dating.

kaizenkin · 2021-03-03T03:38:29+00:00

Been there...

Impossible-asset · 2021-03-03T04:19:46+00:00

Post removed:

This is not a forum to complain about dating problems, be ause mgtow men do not have dating problems. Rule 6.

You will receive more relevant answers at /asktrp or /purplepilldebate.

Maelandrew · 2021-03-03T00:38:04+00:00

Reading between the lines, I would say that the type of woman you are interested in doesn't utilize online dating sites.

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