Alternative to lifting

acsempronio · 2015-03-23T21:15:12+00:00

Not a doctor.

There is no alternative to lifting. lifting heavy things is the only way to build real muscle mass and definition from that mass.

However, as any trainer or coach will say: you don't stop training because of an injury, you train around it.

Do the maximum you can do before it hurts. If it hurts during, something is wrong.

Get your surgery, heal up, PT, and then lift. Seriously: do the PT. people think PT is a joke but it exists because it fucking works... it just takes a while sometimes.

BluepillProfessor · 2015-03-24T01:29:37+00:00

Pay a trainer or PT guy to put together a program. You still have 3 of 4 limbs working fine and the injured limb 'only' has a shoulder issue. Biceps, triceps, pecs and all the muscles in your leg, back, and stomach are still trainable by a number of exercises.

Also, shoulder surgeries have a high rate of full recovery. I would go for it sooner rather than later.

marinerhyme · 2015-03-24T01:54:06+00:00

Lots of solid advice here, I have rheumatoid arthritis and my hands and knees are pretty messed up with permanent joint damage. I am considered disabled although I work full time for reference. I work on whatever isn't hurting. So in my case my collar bone where it meets my chest will swell up real bad so I work legs instead. I do squats with low weight and tons of sit ups etc. It makes a difference. I can't go heavy all the time but I can sometimes and I just work around the pain as much as possible. I've always been stocky anyway so its not like Im trying to put a bunch of mass on.

Sepean · 2015-03-23T21:32:39+00:00

Steroids without lifting gains you more lean muscle than lifting without steroids iirc.

TheAlphaMonologues · 2015-03-24T02:20:06+00:00

Rotator cuff exercises. I've dislocated one shoulder twice. Surgeon said one more time and he'll be meeting me in the OR. I did PT for six weeks, then started lifting. I do rotator cuff exercises religiously as a warmup to my workouts, and over two years have successfully healed it. No issues whatsoever.

It's also probably worth mentioning that I've had multiple surgeries on my other shoulder and haven't had any issues there either since lifting.

Given my number of dislocations, severity of dislocations, having gone through two surgeries on one shoulder, and successfully healing the other without surgery, I'm pretty much the poster child for how to destroy your shoulders--and then getting back to being healthy. I lift now with reckless abandon. Happy to help you out, but I'll need more details.

For example, you say it's "messed up". What does that mean? Did you dislocate? Tear rotator cuff?

crayonsred · 2015-03-24T02:26:30+00:00

As an guy in my 40s, I hear what you are saying. The body ages.

Realistically, at 54, you're going to have a much harder time doing big weight on deadlift and bench press.

Because I totally destroyed my back and shoulder years ago, I incorporate a lot of body weight fitness into my workout. You can get well built that way. (Search reddit for body weigh fitness and check out the photos of peoples' results.) The key is to mimic the heavy weights of lifting with your body. It's low reps, high difficulty. You're not going to get the same gains from body weight fitness that you will get from lifting. But for older guys, it's more sustainable.

Of course, this isn't medical advice. Just based on my experience. Even with body weight fitness, your hands shoulders arms have to be very strong and flexible.

[EDIT: Back and shoulder problems were from an accident, not from lifting.]

flyingaardvark · 2015-03-25T03:39:30+00:00

Weightlifting exercises to do with a jacked shoulder- most should be done ON MACHINES, so the strong side can compensate some for the weak. 1) DECLINE bench- 2) rows - 3) curls/tricep press 4) squat 5) abs This is not a perfect workout, but as an old guy with 2 bad shoulders it is the best I can do. To do the best with whatever we're given should be every lifter's goal.

mylifeisstartingnow · 2015-03-25T17:15:25+00:00

I've got a fucked up shoulder too....Kettlebell swings with a good heavy kettle bell will do the trick.

RBuddDwyer · 2015-03-26T01:52:25+00:00

Try progressive calisthenics. It's what Olympic gymnasts do to get ripped without weights.

Title	Alternative to lifting
Author	NYStateExec
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Date	March 23, 2015 8:33 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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