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[–]theultmatecad 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This was me. Best you keep busy with your hobbies and career and lifting. Just tell her how busy you are if she asks.
Dont shout at her or "have a talk" about it,.remember, this has nothing to do with her.
You are angry that she isnt what YOU thought she would be
[–]TrainingTheBrain 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Withdrawing is fine, it's better than puking your emotions on her. You have to remember 2 very important points that will assist in getting over the rage.
1) You cannot be mad at a woman for thinking and acting like a woman. I get it, as Men we are the more romantic of the sexes and we expect that to be recognized. We also, (unfortunately) believed women loved us the way we loved them, that is false and it sucks in the beginning. But, eventually you accept her as she is, a woman.
2) Your failure to perform as a Man is on you. The fact that TRP even exists is a testament to how many Men needed a reminder that Masculinity is not a 'problem'. Live your life as a Masculine Male, with strength and OI from everything, as nothing can phase the Man who is owning his shit and living his life to the best of his potential.
Side Note: Stoicism has helped me more than anything else in regards to channeling my energy in the most effective and efficient manner.
Being angry over the past is a waste of time and energy. I recommend you read the Enchiridion, Meditiations, Letters from a Stoic, then Discourses in that order.
[–]SorcererKingMRP SAGE - MRP MODERATOR2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
You've been here I hope?
[–]Sadbeary1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Thanks. My life is roses now after manning up, yet I sit there thinking "why am I so fucking annoyed?"...perfect timing to read the link.
[–]SorcererKingMRP SAGE - MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You're welcome. I wrote that shit just for you. And for everyone else who shows up here with the same things to work out.
[–]Sadbeary0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You probably helped me get some last night. She was doing minor annoying crazy shit and started to feel myself get annoyed; remembered your post and thought AWALT and smiled as I spelled that acronym out in my mind and just STFU. Happy not annoyed demeanor ensued. Sure enough as I start getting ready for bed she leaps into bed naked and laughing that I have to turn all the lights out. Normally she wear pajamas, naked means 'fuck me'; so i did.
[–]SorcererKingMRP SAGE - MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That was all you, bro. Be the man you always envied
[–]enfier0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Even quite a while in and pretty much over the anger phase, it's still good to reread that post and understand the parts that I missed on the first time through.
[–]kxb220Unplugging1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is me, too. I found RP, started working on myself and thought I knew AWALT all along. Then, I found out shit my wife did with old boyfriends, that I had to beg to get and was still sometimes denied. I understand now that its all on me and she is just AWALT. But I'll be damned if her behavior doesn't remind me of the old me and I fucking hate that guy.
[–]Countpudyoola 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I know it can't be attractive to her to have me basically ignore her
XXX
That is not a true statement.
Anyways, meditate, fake, withdraw if you feel yourself losing control. Eventually it'll get easier. You'll later have a few resurgences, it happens. But it gets easier to spot and deal with.
[–]stonepimpletilists 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
^ this
don't believe him? Take a chew toy away from your dog, especially if he's just kind of sitting there with it. does he want it more, or less now?
[–]itstartstoday123Unplugging1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm going through it now. I lurked here for a number if months and signed Up only a few ago. Everything is good until I started seeing success in implementing these principals. And then just like that I saw all her reactions, excuses and tactics in a new light. I saw the short sightedness, lack of vision, selfishness, opportunistic, hypergamy BS. Now I'm angry and starting to withdraw.
She is great in bed, though the sex is infrequent. And is nothing compared to when we first met through the 3rd year(decline in first year of marriage).
So yeah I started putting all the pieces together and now hindsight is pissing me off cause all the arguments and nights without sex and shitty excuses have taken a new meaning. But AWALT is actually keeping it from getting out of control to much. I told myself I would give this some time but I can't say I expected this..... Detachment.
[–]stonepimpletilists 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you're able to put the ego away, you often won't have an anger phase. I was like that, but in the military, you often have to ditch the ego and just get things done (at least enlisted, officers are not so lucky)
The anger is just your ego blaming everyone else for your inability to understand how the world works.
If anything, be glad if you're dispasionately looking at a situation, and acting in your best interests. Don,'t look for a problem where one doesn't happen. When I first came here, I went numb, not angry. it was the best thing that could happen to me, since I could get over how butmad I was and just start fixing my life
[–]mrpCamperUnplugging1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Notice all the "This was me" and "That's where I am now" responses?
Yes,withdraw if that is what you feel like... temporarily. Keep faking it and improving yourself through this. DO NOT refuse her sexual escalations though.
[–]irateMD 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do what you want to do. If you aren't currently interested in your wife, then take the time you would have spent or wasted with her and dedicate it to something you want to do or actually need to do. If you ignore her in order to do something unproductive, like TV or video games, then you will miss an opportunity to improve your life.
[–]watch_ping0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you leave a steak on the floor and your dog eats it, do you get mad at the dog, or the person who left the steak on the floor? She's just acting according to her programming. AWALT.
[–]DarkisKnight0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not married but having guy friends to get out have a drink with, discuss women problems, etc. is helpful. If you don't have that, maybe you could use a few guy friends to kick it with when you just need to have a break. Breaks are good.
[–]jessalon 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Dante Nero helped me out of that phase. "You can't get mad at fish for swimming."
Beige Phillip episode 107 9:08-9:25
Harry "Well you did mention that you felt like women were like gold fish."
Dante "goldfish"
Harry "now why is that?"
Dante " because they swim around in the goldfish bowl and they think they're in the ocean"
Harry "they don't know the difference. They can't tell."
Dante " I just forgot. I just swam around this goldfish bowl."
Harry " and men never feel this way?"
Dante "no. We pretty much know when we suck."
[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I skipped right through the anger phase when I started here.
Nope, just like grief. It happens all at once, in different orders. Unplugging is a total emotional clusterfuck.
Do I fake it til I make it and push through this
Yes
Read the Art of Seduction and start learning how PUA pickup works. Then start practicing on your wife- when you are not sulking like Achilles in his tent.
[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I personally never really experienced the full blown anger that a lot of men here do.
Do I fake it til I make it and push through this or should I wait until I get over it permanently?
Sometimes time is the only cure to anger. Lifting and getting into hobbies and friends again are going to be the prescribed treatment. As you unplug more and realize that she will not be anything you ever thought, one day you are going to realize it doesnt matter.
[–]Flathatter45 1 points1 points1 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
My anger at wife has faded to almost nothing. Problem is, I now find her boring, annoying, and unattractive. I guess I always did, but I was so caught up in the anger and fights and whining about sex, I never really noticed.
[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True. You have a very valid point, and the decision on when or how to next her is up to you.
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