Married? Fail!

KyfhoMyoba · 2016-03-25T11:05:40+00:00

I'm going to swim against the current here and say that as men, we certainly should find our masculinity before we get married.

I think this is the single greatest difference between those who have a solid relationship and those who don't. I found (thanks to the Navy) my masculine nature before I got married. Which means, I had already laid out the terms and conditions for my commitment and Love.

I chose and would choose again to get married. It works for me, it works for my family, and I am aware that it sucks for a lot of guys who were married then found their true nature - but I think it is crazy for men to think marriage is impossible.

difficult? For sure - but what is there in the world that is worth a damn that isn't difficult to obtain? The struggle is a part of the joy. Finding a way to keep myself interesting and keep my wife motivated is what makes it all worth while.

I fucked my wife last night and this morning I woke up to her holding my cock and when I looked at her she smirked, said good morning baby and then climbed on and rode me.

A wet dick is a happy dick - I went to work a satisfied man.

This is possible for any guy here, but to be fair I think it is MORE LIKELY or at least easier, for guys who expressed their masculine nature prior to getting married.

ParadoxThatDrivesUs · 2016-03-25T05:15:38+00:00

What the fuck is going on around here? Dreaming about the world you wish existed is just wasted time. It is what it is.

All you can do is wade into the battle, a happy warrier, and start swinging.

Redneck001 · 2016-03-26T00:50:39+00:00

Fuck, Cad.

You know I like you. We disagree, but I often disagree with people I like. If I didn't like you, I'd give you no attention.

But this is a shit post, followed by a brief victim puke.

You're better than this. Bring your fucking "A" game.

H_to_Tha_OV · 2016-03-25T11:03:59+00:00

I don't disagree that courts need to be more fair towards men; but it's also cultural. Men, for instance, get "alimony shamed" (e.g. Nick Lachey) by the media. Women who make less then their men but still make livable wages should not get alimony. Conversely, men who forego careers to raise kids, should get alimony like their female counterparts. We need to further engrain that concept with feminists, unfortunately, to have any groundswell.

As far as advising young men not to get married, it's counterproductive. They'll look at you like a bitter old man just like many of us did when our uncles told us the same shit. Better advice is to give them a checklist to evaluate their woman. Or a fucking "independent audit" to make sure it's a good idea.

[deleted] · 2016-03-25T03:37:34+00:00

Thought provoking.

Yet so many line up to sign a contract where the terms are not stated, and, those terms can be easily changed at anytime by a party outside the marriage (the government) that has a track record of poor judgement.

Once the marriage contract is signed, then how does one manage? What follows are thousands of words of text here and in books, and, thousands of hours of effort to minimize a badly designed and ever changing contract. The longer the contract exists, like an STD, the harder it is the get rid of if, that was one's desire.

So to mitigate this inherently bad design, society and all of it's minions both male and female, set out an ongoing dialog to encourage male adherence to what is so often a disadvantageous life for men. And this works, because the vast majority of men believe this dialog and do not question their roles as enablers of their own plight.

Well Fuck me, I'm going to get a drink.

RedDreadWolverine · 2016-03-25T12:23:58+00:00

Said it before: Marriage. I'm a fan.

You have to go into it with your eyes open not in some fog of romance. The old "marriage is not to be entered into lightly, but soberly, advisedly etc..."

Before my son proposed to his wife, now the mother of his son, he asked me for advice and we spoke several times, at length, about the wisdom of this life altering choice. He's a serious guy.

This is what I told him.

1) Keep your expectations realistic.

2) When you get married, you will still have all your own problems but now you will have her problems too.

3) Make a list of what you don't like about her and imagine it much, much worse. Can you live with it?

4) Don't let your relationship/marriage be the defining element of your life.

5) If you are getting married because you think you want to have children then you better have some lengthy discussions about what kind of parents you want to be.

("I give my kid everything!" or "We just let 'em bootstrap." "Kids need to be beaten hard, and often" or "Oh no, we have a colored clothespin system for teaching junior about boundaries!")

5)Wait another year to see if you still want to.

It might work out or it might not. That's life.

Ordinary_Gentelman · 2016-03-25T03:49:14+00:00

Letting down my stoicism, I agree with this. Completely.

I mean I get the whole leadership thing. I do. I was a infantry company commander. I commanded 200 trigger pulling knuckle draggers. So I get it. But....some people can't be lead. This is why some people are chaptered out as "failure to adapt". Trouble with saying that out loud is then people use it as an excuse. YOu have to go the distance before you can make the call. Do everything you can do because, well...it won't be different unless you fix your issues, and it's different for us all. But if I had known going in all this? No. I wouldn't have given it up at all.

I am going back to my stoicism now because the recent rash of posts have been really depressing. gawd.

I don't know if my marriage will survive, but there is no guarantee of that RP or not.

Persaeus · 2016-03-25T02:56:50+00:00

There was a post on MRP a few days ago about whether MRP is "Red Pill." The fact is that most, if not all of us here, would not have gotten married if we knew then what we know now. That awareness, I think, settles the debate.

Question is, what to do about it now? I have 4 more years before my options open up again, so right now it's all about preparation and self improvement. When the bell rings? We'll see, but it will definitely include a 3 month sabbatical where I remember who I am again.

Bill Burr is right. Ain't no shame in sleeping on a futon if you are happier there. You just gotta own your situation and figure out what YOU want to do - ride it out, or eject?

alphabeta49 · 2016-03-25T05:36:01+00:00

I'm forwarding this to my little brother (almost 18). He's browsed the main sub but I don't think he gets how serious this is or how brainwashed he's been. We were all raised cc (conservative Christian. My parents are dead set on Cruz), but he's young enough to get the message before it's too late. Thanks for reviving this post.

Squeezymypenisy · 2016-03-25T15:23:08+00:00

My marriage was a business contract.

alphabeta49 · 2016-03-25T17:10:00+00:00

I can always count on your posts to have the highest negative discrepancy between karma and comments.

[deleted] · 2016-03-25T17:11:44+00:00

Usually their mental masturbation posts are pretty lame.

Looks like they used to be a lot better

[deleted] · 2016-03-25T19:57:05+00:00

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BluepillProfessor · 2016-03-25T03:50:31+00:00

Let's redirect this a bit. What would be the necessary changes to be made to the marriage institution before it became a viable option for men again?

Whisper, in the linked post basically tells us- we need to get back to the original contract. That is-

to have and to hold from this day forth
Forsaking all others.

"Having" means fucking.

Basically all MRP does is say: If you women are not going to live up to the 1st term in the stated contract, then we men are not going to live up to the 2nd term.

A better option would be to begin FORCING women to live up to their promise in the contract. The first thing that MUST go is not unfair custody laws but a modification of marital rape laws. I agree a man should not be permitted by law to throw his struggling bride down and take her like a cave man while she screams and cries. He shouldn't have to. The terms of the contract are clear that he can TELL her to go to the bedroom and take off her clothes. She doesn't get to use sexual denial as a tool to seize control of the relationship and that is exactly what has happened.

"Marriage" does not even exist any more. Instead it is a corrupted, hybrid institution to funnel money from men to women and children while men are not even entitled to sex with their own wives. What the fuck kind of Bizarro world do we live in?

40mullet · 2016-03-25T21:46:28+00:00

Is this subreddit for americans only? You have just really fucked up laws there. Being married is not the same in every part of the world. If I divorce tomorrow, I will pay about 150$ a month per kid and that is all. All property accumulated during marriage will be split, things before marriage and gifts (even houses) will not be split, don´t see how that is not fair.

I have been married 10 years and I don´t regret any of this. Great sex, nice family life...since I let myself really go. Wife dried up, googled "how make wife wet again", found red pill and thing getting better.

My wife sometimes watch these american shows, where they buy wedding dresses and getting married. 99% girls are overweight bitches, Don´t get how anyone could marry them. But there is usually some guy, slightly thinner than bride, paying some ridiculous money to spend a life with this ugly thing. Jesus watch her 300 pound mother for christ sake, hoping your wife´s future will be different?

And did somebody actually thought that having some paper get him to fuck a girl as much as he wants? I get all this media conditioning and disney love but really? You actually thought that after gaining 50 pounds your wife will suck you dick?

Title	Married? Fail!
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	14
Comments	138
Date	March 25, 2016 1:45 AM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MarriedRedPill
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