[META](RPW purge... ouch!)

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[–]stonepimpletilists 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

Realtalk time.

It's retarded some times. Guys like /u/jacktenofhearts /u/BluepillProfessor and guys like them put in some serious work on helping other dudes out here. And for no real benefit on their part, other than paying it forward. I almost want to call it kindness to a fault sometimes.

you think 4000 word comments fall out of the fucking sky? They feel passionate enough about it that someone coming in to start some shit often gets under the radar, because the default mode is iron sharpening iron. Some often go into the lions den, because they think of it as a surface level, straight talk communication, honest misunderstanding of what is going on, or when it's anything but.

Power talk, SJW level shaming tactics. It's the female social matrix, cupcake fascism,

If they want to call everyone here rapist xenophobes, fill their boots. Just don't call their fucking jobs and wives with this bullshit, and don't bring it into the locker room.

We are busy building better men here cunts.

I got a good taste of it in the Navy. Mess culture, guys who were forced to live together 24/7. Nowadays, it's like a lite version of what it most likely was back when everyone was shooting germans, but it's fucking good. You see it when /u/TheFamilyAlpha talks, or old school guys, like you, or /u/il-est-ressuscite.

My dad never taught it to me, my step dad never taught it to me, but I know what it is, and I can see small sparkles of it here. I know it's the aspirational aspect of it, and it's not there yet. I'll act a cunt to new guys acting like bitches, I'll point and laugh at retards and their drama, occasionally start my own.

But at the end of the day, This place, and these people here doing what they do... It adds more to mens lives than it does take away. And for that reason alone, I put in my 2 bits.

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[–]irateMD 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

What is the point of this?

Comedy.

The red pill label is arbitrary and almost completely meaningless. It's like feminism - everyone has their own definition.

RPW mods always said they're the real deal red pillers, citing manosphere blog contributions and endorsement from TRP as proof even though much of what they say is against the bulk of what appears in those resources. Then they turn around and decry TRP as not being true red pill, whatever that means. It's all a bunch of completely worthless chatter.

MRP is in the same boat. We say things here that contradict what you see in TRP and the rest of the manosphere, and it works for the guys who use their brains. If TRP is "the truth," then why does our way work and why are so many of them permanently in the "anger phase?"

I find no value in the label of red, blue, or purple for myself personally. I also think it has little utility for this sub other than increased visibility from the red pill brand.

The funniest part of all this, for me, was pointed out by some users in thebluepill: divorcing from RPW to ensure female-oriented advice and get out from under RPS's thumb was a feminist move made by a bunch of self-proclaimed anti-feminists. All of these labels are a complete waste of time.

[–]stonepimpletilists 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago* (12 children) | Copy Link

Standard SJW practice, really.

Enter positions of influence (not power, influence) Bring in as many like minded as you can under guise of standards of conduct, policies etc, proceed to create subjective rules that can enforce groupthink

It's why that book and gamergate came about really

I do suggest people give it a read, it's fascinating, even if you don't like games, since a lot of it is like the HR department in a large company, explains the recent 'firings' of nobel lauriates, firing of Vice.com cofounders, the Mozilla CEO firing, shaming of scientists with anime shirts, and a lot of why guys like Milo yannopolus are so successful promoting the manosphere.

though personally, I like the name. It has that persuasive element to it. The matrix analogy gives a great banner to bring people together. Like Fight Club. Simple, effective, able to illustrate complex issues into a very simple narrative.

It's like how Trump has dominated the GOP lately (going by scott adams analysis) or Milo is gaining huge popularity over the past year. Gamergate being the only femenist anti-force out there with any success. So many examples of masculinity reasserting itself.

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[–]redpillschoolTRP MODERATOR0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You're seeing anger as an impediment to success. Framing it as irresponsible or immature (malcontent child) is buying the feminine frame hook, line, and sinker.

Anger is the catalyst by which real changes occur.

If feminists reaction is the goal

Feminists don't want men angry, they want them docile and defending the status quo. We are no good to them outside of the system. They need us to fight their wars, to give them provisions, to pay the taxes and pay the child support. Angry men are a threat to their way of life.

Rp is a man's answer to living as if feminism didn't exist, and he wanted to pick his own path.

Yes, it is. And the first step to living one's life is admitting that it's okay to be angry about things when somebody has wronged you, not use shame to curtail it. Real-man(tm) is an appeal to the feminine imperative.

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When I see a discussion that sparks my interest, I upvote it, and comb through comments. A lot of the comments are extraneous or pointless, and they do tend to get buried at the bottom under a good real-talk post correcting everything (by an EC usually).

The outrage posts (which I unofficially try to limit to 1 on the home page at a time) are usually anger fests (how on earth does she get away with that??). You can avoid them if you're looking for tips on getting better.

I actually like getting a small shot in the arm to remind me the state of the gender wars. It's easy to forget the world isn't on your side when you have a LTR and it's going well.

The guys who will never help themselves, they don't make that much of a splash, since they aren't exactly posting many topics.

The 80/20 rule still applies, no matter where you go. Once you get big enough.

I think a lot of people enjoy going back because you can vent/discuss things without a filter. I'm not learning all that much from the sub at this point, but it's nice to be able to say "man, fuck that bitch" without worrying about my job.

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[–]ArchwingerMarried- MRP MODERATOR4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago* (41 children) | Copy Link

The unofficial gossip is that various RP men, such as myself and apparently Whisper, would comment in the RPW sub with too much frequency. Honestly, all of the Red Pill subs are on my front page, and I usually just click and comment all willy-nilly any time a title catches my eye without really paying much attention to whether I'm in AskTRP, MRP, TRP, RPW, etc.

The majority of the RPW mods, PhantomDream in particular, while not specifically stating disagreement with any particular content provided by various men, objected to the source. It was their position that, independent of the quality of the content or lack thereof, men who do not have ideal Red Pill lives/marriages have no business offering any content at all.

This is something of an extension of the disagreement with BPP, and honestly, I think the girls made a decent point there.

Men with happy, successful marriages, filled with sex, respect, and great leadership, don't subscribe to Red Pill subreddits looking for advice on how to get laid and improve their marriages. MRP is not a sub of happy men with great marriages, passing on their knowledge and the keys to success to men in need. MRP is a sub of unhappy works in progress, figuring things out in conjunction with other men in need.

So essentially, RPW is beta-shaming TRP and MRP and going to their own sandbox to discuss their successful lives with real men while RPS revamps the original RPW subreddit.

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One of the best parts of The Red Pill is that it's content-focused.

ahahhahahahahhaha

yeah, sure okay.

jesus. i hope you don't actually believe that.

TRP is as emotionally driven as TBP. It's just the TBP targets its vitriol at TRP and TRP's vitriol is aimed at a boogeyman.

Content-focused is completely meaningless if it's a gigantic circlejerk that doesn't add value in real world context.

TRP is no better than BLM, except that it teaches angsty young men that it's not their fault, it's women's. It's a manufacturing factory of victim complexes.

A woman won't fuck you? It's not that you're an angry bitter loser. No, it's that women are bitches. Yeah, that's totally it.

Look, it's not you. Your posts are good. They add context. But I'll admit that I would be completely baffled if you believed your own bullshit right now. I'll also freely admit that I'm not the target audience of your posts or TRP (i.e. Job, wife, daughter, and I wouldn't change anything in my life - because if I did, I'd already be making a change.)

It's not about misogyny, lack of misogyny, whatever. It's about personal responsibility for an individual's life choices. What gets me about your posts is that the continual brush of 100% of women are completely evil cuntbag bitches. You and I both know that's bullshit. Are there some women who are? Yes. Are there some women who can be? Yes. Are there a majority of women who will be if you act like a total spineless fucking bitch? Absolutely yes. But who's fault really is it for you 1) being treated like a total bitch and 2) continually finding shitty women instead of figuring out how to find the 5%, 10%, 30%, 50%, 75%, 90% of quality women as you keep improving as an individual?

The onus is on the individual to become better. If the people in your life suck - it's your problem to make the changes necessary or stop whining. Seriously - take a look at the front page? It reads like a bunch of teenagers posting edge-y trivialities.

If your life sucks, that's your fucking problem.

That's the message constantly being advocated here. What's the message being advocated at TRP? My conclusion is that it's the same message being advocates all over modern society.

If your life sucks, that's not your problem. It's someone else's fault.

Edit: here's an interesting thought - make some posts with a new username and see how much traction you'd get in TRP. I suspect there's a bit of hero worship going on.

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I go through the posts there every other day or so and find a few gems that lead to some real insight, mostly how to socialize and ways to better read/understand those around me - shit that has really helped in my life.

But to find the needle in the haystack I'm pulling hay out one by one - there's so much victim mentality and unproductive bitching without direction towards a solution to the cause of the bitching.

Recently I had a post deleted because I didn't follow their format. When I let them know I had 2 special 'points' which has allowed me to post however I've wanted since I joined the damned sub in 2013 before we even had 1,000 people they politely told me to fuck off.

I'll stick to comments and wading through the shit to find the golden flakes of Goldschläger from the night before. But sometimes when the mods do shit like they did to me, I wonder if they really think it's that serious.

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[–]MentORPHEUSTRP Endorsed Contributor2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Though I mostly post on TRP, I've been lurking on RPW and MRP for over a year because I have stakes in all three branches.

I've always wondered about the split between TRP and MRP; only cryptic details of the reasons leak out bits at a time.

I think these three branches of RP philisophy are better off unified than disunited. The problems are not so much of praxeology or philosophy, but seem to come down to clashes of personality.

The "victory" of a few weeks ago when RPW and MRP had a public tiff was pyrrhic at best.

These three subs fill the legitimate needs of people in different life postions, and do not have to be at odds with each other. It would be great if the three could co-exist, serving their respective userbases, and passing people off to the correct sub when they wander into the wrong place.

NO Red Pill subgroup benefits when we all become divided and balkanized into angry warring factions. The beneficiaries include those who would meta-manipulate our society to keep the masses plugged in and "happy," and all of our "enemies" including TBP, mainstream radical feminists, whoever you care to name.

Instead of adding to or magnifying the drama, what can be done to unify the various factions of the Manosphere?

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Title	[META](RPW purge... ouch!)
Author	stonepimpletilists
Upvotes	3
Comments	137
Date	April 4, 2016 5:41 PM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MarriedRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/4dc6b6/metarpw_purge_ouch/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MarriedRedPill/metarpw-purge-ouch.200142 https://theredarchive.com/post/200142

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