A Question For Men: What Do You Need Right Now?

EvolvingRedneck · 2016-10-04T18:00:53+00:00

What do men need? We need people to stop over-reacting and punishing every male for the actions of a select few. I see it happening all over the world: title IX, manspreding law, misogyny law, and recently the Brock Turner drunk law. Men are so paranoid now, well I am at least and I know I'm not alone, we are afraid to interact with women any more out of fear a simple "hello" will trigger some hypersensitive woman and we will get a citation or jail time. I just have to wonder now; is it possible people will come to their senses and stop the gendered law witch hunt madness, or is any attempt of discussion going to continue to be seen as an attack on women? I know the more of these laws that keep popping up, the deeper I go into the land of MGTOW.

Leinadro · 2016-10-04T17:12:37+00:00

What does anyone "need"? If you are alive and expect to stay that way for the foreseeable future, you don't really need anything.

I know what the author is driving towards, but I think "need" is the wrong word to be using as it's interpretation can be fluid. Instead he(?) should define a version of 'want' and go from there. What one change would increase your happiness? If you could change any way the world works in one thing with the goal of increasing your personal happiness, what would it be?

That might garner different results.

lucalu99 · 2016-10-05T15:35:39+00:00

Equality so I can't get fucked over because I have a penis

Xristos_Xristos_III · 2016-10-04T19:25:59+00:00

Being asked what you need for the very first time by someone who really wants to know and then finding yourself coming up blank is, I think, a common experience for many men.

Maybe it has a lot to do with the fact that it's an unbelievably retarded question that only a complete fucking cretin would expect a spontaneous answer to.

Let me take one, very clear example from my country - it is commonly the case that women win custody of the children in a divorce and men receive visitation rights.

However, it is also a not uncommon experience that as part of the bitterness involved in the divorce, women do not honour those times when the man has access to his children.

Not only that, but they justify it - the women will not untypically express something to effect of:

"I have to be the bad cop as well as the good cop - it's so unfair that when he comes over every other weekend, they go to the zoo and McDonald's and the cinema. They have such a great time that they are always depressed when they have to come back to me - and I have to pick up the emotional pieces of that.

"Therefore, it's generally better that they don't see him at all - the less they see him, the less they will be hurt by having contact with him."

The father is then increasingly alienated from his own children and the legal settlement that supposedly entitles him to fair access is ignored and left unenforced by the authorities.

This is a man whose marriage has failed, who is likely in his 30s or 40s living in a single-room bedsit/motel (or sleeping in his fucking car), maybe with parents or sleeping on friends sofas, away from family, away from his children, working himself to death to pay child support ...

And you ask "What Do You Need Right Now?" with an actual real expectation of a single answer?

Fuck's sake.

oshmkufa2010 · 2016-10-04T18:32:14+00:00

What I need right now you ask? I need for you to make any sense for starters.

“I don’t know” is a state of mind men have often been taught to equate with weakness.

Citation needed. Sure, not being able to do something is usually perceived as neutral or negative, but "I don't know" is not special at all. Seriously, where did they get that from? I've never heard of that being a thing before.

We had little or no experience understanding and expressing our needs, and many of our initial attempts felt awkward and clumsy at first.

Yeah, it's because of patriarchy, isn't it? No, it's because of structural brain differences. Men on average just aren't able to articulate their emotions as good as women can, because men's language centers aren't as big as women are and they aren't as connected with the regions that process emotions. Men are biologically more incompetent in describing how and what they feel, not because of socialisation.

Rethgil · 2016-10-04T20:24:51+00:00

I don't pretend to speak for all men. But I think we need the media to drop its fake claims of impartiality in its excessive endless obsessive focus on feminist only issues. They do it because it sells the advertising space that funds them. They do it because it is popular. They don't do it because it is justified by evidence. They don't do it because it is a proportional response to the problems women face compared to men. The media need to grow up and speak up for men and the endlessly overlooked problems they face. Women may face sexual assault more. But that's not as extreme as the physical harm most men face globally which literally endangers their wellbeing. There is just no comparison. Yet the balance of the focus on women's issues and ignoring of mens is utterly sickening and costs lives. Also, less reliance on dodgy science and 'feelz' and more reliance on actual proper facts please.

Bewolfs · 2016-10-04T20:43:35+00:00

Men should have right for financial abortion too and feminist should be for it too since:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/feminist adjective, Sometimes, feministic 1. advocating social, political, legal, and economic rights for women equal to those of men.

But we know from feminists action that they are not going for advocating social, political, legal, and economic rights for women equal to those of men.

MagicTampon · 2016-10-05T02:44:21+00:00

Laws to protect me (and all men) from various forms of abuse at the hands of females and at the hands of government.

cmumford · 2016-10-05T03:26:48+00:00

I need the man-hate and disrespect to stop.

splodgenessabounds · 2016-10-05T08:29:39+00:00

Affection - physical, emotional, intellectual. It's not that I don't have friends or good mates. It's not that I couldn't get a shag if I put my mind to it. It's that - from time to time - I ~~miss~~ crave being close with someone I love who loves me. I suspect (but I don't know for certain) that many blokes living on their own feel the same way but are too reluctant to acknowledge it, let alone say it outright.

Unfortunately, Feminism (along with the Selfism/ Individualism that flourished following the Thatcher-Reagan era) is making it ever more difficult for men (and women) to simply acknowledge that each needs the other, and I get the impression that women who really understand (or who really want to understand) men are becoming fewer and further between. I hope I live to be proven completely wrong.

rg57 · 2016-10-04T20:36:12+00:00

How many days do you have?

Vandechoz · 2016-10-05T01:35:32+00:00

more money

it solves more problems than people give it credit for

Corn-Tortilla · 2016-10-08T00:00:00+00:00

Rights. I need rights. I mean there are a lot of rights I'd like to have, like universal suffrage, but I'd settle for one right. The right for a woman to never be allowed to separate my child and me again

operatethethings · 2016-10-04T19:34:14+00:00

A beer

goodfoobar · 2016-10-04T21:26:32+00:00

A sandwich. I'm hungry. After reading the article think that is the kind of answer they are looking for. If I make my own sandwich does that make me a MGTOW?

Leinadro · 2016-10-04T17:29:50+00:00

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Rasalom72 · 2016-10-04T17:56:10+00:00

To answer the question, food, shelter and air... that about sums up what we all "need".

Title	A Question For Men: What Do You Need Right Now?
Author	Leinadro
Upvotes	6
Comments	33
Date	October 4, 2016 4:57 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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