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Absolutely wrong.

Dogswithswords

July 31, 2018
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Title Absolutely wrong.
Author

Dogswithswords

Upvotes 193
Comments 46
Date July 31, 2018 8:04 PM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/93hw8y/absolutely_wrong/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/absolutely-wrong.896930
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[–]phsycoeevee 61 points62 points63 points 7 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

I can’t believe someone thinks that

[–]orotnashsad 37 points38 points39 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Nobody ACTUALLY thinks that. It’s a power play. They know what they’re doing.

[–]tigrn914 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They hate men, they'll say whatever they need to in order to dehumanize men.

[–]duhhhh 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

There is this very influential feminist Mary P Koss that explains that a woman raping a man isn't rape. Hear her in her own voice explain it isn't traumatic for the victim if they are not penetrated - https://clyp.it/uckbtczn.

She is the one that started the 1 in 4 college women is sexually assaulted myth by counting all sorts of things the "victims" didn't. She created the methodology most (including the US and other government agencies around the world) use for gathering rape stastics.

Detecting the Scope of Rape : A Review of Prevalence Research Methods. Author: Mary P. Koss. Journal of Interpersonal Violence Volume: 8 Issue: 2 Dated: (June 1993) Page: 206

"Although consideration of male victims is within the scope of the legal statutes, it is important to restrict the term rape to instances where male victims were penetrated by offenders. It is inappropriate to consider as a rape victim a man who engages in unwanted sexual intercourse with a woman."

She is an advisor to the CDC, FBI, Congress, and researchers around the world and she promotes the idea that men cannot be raped by women. Do you think she doesn't believe it?

[–]orotnashsad 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I think she doesn’t believe it.

Do the people destroying the EPA for the ability to frack for natural gas believe that Global Warming is actually caused by human body heat? No. But that’s the BS they spout to further their cause.

It’s all about getting what they want, and her narrative destroys men, it doesn’t mean she believes it.

[–]Deluxe754 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Does it really matter if she doesn’t believe what she’s says if she has the pulpit to spread she BS? Seems like little comfort to know she doesn’t believe the BS she spouts.

[–]orotnashsad 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There isn’t any comfort in it, it should be the opposite.

It should be horrible and disgusting that someone could say such insensitive things towards another group of human beings, especially since nobody in their right mind could truly believe that.

[–]Deluxe754 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes that’s what I am saying.

[–]notrlyjeses 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

tbh, I used to think men couldn't be raped. I am a man. the stuff about emotions and trauma is going off the deep end, but the underlying sentiment, men cannot be sexually assaulted, is commonplace.

[–]Sawses 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There are always crazy fringe people. It's one of the things that annoys me about this sub--there's so much rage-bait since it's what gets upvotes. We ought to focus on the actual, pervasive problems--not the crazies who are obviously only a tiny vocal minority. Focus on discussions about men's issues, actual policies and attitudes harming to helping men, and ways in which we can change or reinforce them. Not this nonsense; I can find you any number of people who say horrible things, and almost none of them are worth talking about except in passing.

[–]duhhhh 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

actual policies and attitudes harming to helping men

Such as public policy maker Mary P Koss saying pretty much the same thing and preventing male victims of women from being recognized as rape victims? See my comment above - https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/93hw8y/absolutely_wrong/e3eqd60/

[–]Sawses 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If they're using those beliefs to shape policy, then yes.

[–]loganblade14 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That Tumblr is satire

[–]shill_account78 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Poe's law though

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's totally a troll.

[–]celticd208 40 points41 points42 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Went through Iraq '06-'07... Supply Specialist for an infantry unit, no real direct combat...

Some nights are still rough.

"...males do not experience mental trauma as they are incapable of doing so..."

My grandfather, father and brother are/were local leaders in a charity organization that is the third largest provider of scholarships, behind the US Government and a literal billionaire...

"...males cannot experience emotions such as... generosity..."

I have only two words.

Fuck off.

[–]Hadashi_blacksky 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It is so wrong I question if that person is sane or if it is satire. Not only that, but I bet way more than 1 in 6 boys are abused if the figure is 1 in 4 for girls.

[–]Greg_W_Allan 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Can't give you ratios but prior to puberty boys are more likely victims than girls. It's largely because boys are targeted by both sexes. Boys are also more likely to be abused outside the home environment regardless of age.

[–]Hadashi_blacksky 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know they get it more at all ages in the middle East and places outside the West. Not that you'll hear about what Boko Gram does to boys or the Dancing Boys of Afghanistan anywhere.

[–]alclarkey 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Males do not experience mental trauma, so they're perfectly happy when they kill themselves at 4x the rate of women?

[+]edwardnatas1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Well I can guarantee they are not unhappy.

[–]red_philosopher 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

After they die? For sure.

[–]alclarkey 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You can guarantee they are not unhappy? Suicidal people are not unhappy?

[–]PatheticAndAlone 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That has to be a troll.

[–]Sasha_ 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Is it really that different to the #menaretrash feminist hashtag that Laurie Penny and others were pushing a few months back?

[–]PatheticAndAlone 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I know that some man hating women really do think that way, but the post still gives me a troll vibe. I could be wrong.

[–]Sasha_ 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To be honest that's my thoughts too, but when they're attacking air-conditioning as sexist, or advocating culling men it all becomes a bit hard to discern what's real or not.

[–]duhhhh 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably but influential feminists with real power have said pretty much the same thing. See my comment above - https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/93hw8y/absolutely_wrong/e3eqd60/.

[–]dontpet 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Source please?

[–]njullpointer 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

holy fucking shit. Even if this is a poe, at least 245 fucking idiots agreed with it.

[–]PatheticAndAlone 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah that's pretty scary.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Smells like Troll

[–]WiseMonkeyGoodMonkey 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There has to be a way of preventing people this stupid from breeding.

[–]CylonGlitch 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

FMJ

[–]PapaDrag0on 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lets kill all men while were at it

[–]samzac01 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Somene read the scum manifesto.

[–]TheMythof_Feminism 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I will specify that this is a tangent deriving from the OP and not a direct response;

Homosexual men have told me directly that they became sexually active , generally speaking, at very young ages (sometimes 13, 12 or even 11[!]) but they often describe these experiences in very positive terms. I do not claim to speak for gay men, nor could I ever make an assertion as to a correlation here, but I'm not sure if this classifies as "sexual abuse" , actual sexual abuse I mean ...... I think it does, but they seem to disagree and they're the ones that went through it.

If it does, I would wager to say men would far outnumber women in this metric because, not all but the vast majority of gay men that I've talked to about this, all have very similar stories of having some sort of sexual contact with an older man when they were young.... but every single time, they present it as a "good thing" when it should be considered, by all metrics, extreme sexual abuse.

I don't know..... thoughts? any homosexual men in the house?

[–]Greg_W_Allan 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Western culture is fundamentally pederast. You can do anything you like to boys.

[–]blueoak9 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Here's one.

That kind of activity is predominantly buddies fooling around together. It's consensual and there's no power play going on. It's not abuse.

[–]TheMythof_Feminism 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ahhh I see. So it's more of a learning experience then?

If I may ask, why do you think, in your opinion, that homosexual men start having sexual experiences so much younger than heterosexual men?

I don't view this as a bad thing per se, since I've always had it described to me as a good thing, but I am curious as to why it is.

[–]blueoak9 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not sure we do. I thnk straight kids play doctor a lot too.

On the other hand gay men start to have sex as adults generally later simply because of closeting, and so maybe that's changing now. And for gay men who bite the bullet and make the effort to live as straight, they don't go through a real adolescence with all the normal discovery of sex until they divorce and come out, when life actually begins.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Where does this shit even come from, lol.

[–]Reptilian_Brain_420 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That has to be a fake/joke post

[–]Qualanqui 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, never go full retard.

[–]available_splinter 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Rather than trying to shift the blame we should work towards helping those who have suffered this abuse and punish those who perpetrate it.

[–]avengerizme 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here is the link to the post (I'm not sure if this is allowed I don't use Reddit often) https://www.instagram.com/p/Bl4X7UDgadG/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=n1c59nqig0ub

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