any pro-life mras?

C0CKPUNCHER · 2012-03-11T02:02:18+00:00

I'm pro choice, I'm sure most here are.

sme52 · 2012-03-11T03:10:30+00:00

I see a few people stating equalization of reproductive rights as an argument for pro-life. I feel like a better solution to equalizing rights would be to allow the male to legally relieve himself of any duty to the child before the child's birth.

rightsbot · 2012-03-11T00:18:20+00:00

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InfallibleBiship · 2012-03-11T00:45:11+00:00

I would think there would be pro-life MRAs. Why? Because it would make women and men more equal in their reproductive rights. Not equal, mind you, but more equal.

I tend to fall on the pro-choice side, but it's a difficult issue.

2012-03-11T09:57:39+00:00

I'm pro having access to BC and abortion, especially for the poor. Its a naturally occurring demand. And having lived in Africa and the middle east - its a necessity.

edit - giving men reproductive rights and reliable contraception would shink the demand for welfare right back down the where it was decades ago.

theozoph · 2012-03-11T22:36:22+00:00

Nope. Too much suffering and hypocrisy in a society that bans abortion. At the same time, you need to promote contraception and personal responsibility, and make very clear that abortion should be a last resort method. There are no "good" abortions, only unfortunate ones.

Airazz · 2012-03-11T00:50:40+00:00

yes and yes.

a fair amount, justifiable by mother's and father's income.

MechaSixVII · 2012-03-11T02:31:47+00:00

I'm not pro-life. Not at aaaaaaaall.

spagma · 2012-03-11T03:09:02+00:00

I am anti-abortion, though my belief in equality trumps being anti-abortion.

If abortion were illegal then yes, both parents should bare the cost, and responsibility of the child. If abortion stays legal, then both parties should have the right to choose not to be a parent.

These views are somewhat in conflict, as by men choosing not to be a parent it makes it more likely the child will be aborted, but other measures can be taken to reduce abortions and unwanted pregnancies, there are no valid substitutes or measures that can make up for a lack of equal rights and choice.

NiceIce · 2012-03-11T23:36:45+00:00

I am pro-abortion.

Demonspawn · 2012-03-11T08:04:45+00:00

I am anti-abortion, anti-unmarried child support, and anti-no-fault-divorce.

Why? Hypergamy.

The very thing that created civilization was family and fatherhood. As a society, we need to protect and enforce fatherhood. But we cannot do that if we allow hypergamy to remain unchecked.

Now, if there was no such thing as hormonal birth control for women, I would likely reverse my decision on anti-unmarried child support. But because it does exist, the 'oops' factor is something which must be accounted for and adjusted for.

hardwarequestions · 2012-03-11T00:52:22+00:00

pro-abortioinst here, but i know several pro-life MRA's, so allow me to share their perspective...

in a world where abortion is outlawed, all that really changes is the primary right women have over men, in relation to reproductive rights, is removed. following this both men and women should have a more equalized set of rights, though this could be debated. with the equalization of rights comes an expected equalization of responsibility, meaning when an unintended child comes to be both parents have an expectation to contribute to it's welfare.

this could get a whole lot more complicated if you start considering outlawing abortion would likely result in much larger numbers of unwanted children being handed over to a gov't program that would see neccessary expansion and overtake the rights and responsibilities of both parents at the taxpayers expense.

Title	any pro-life mras?
Author	toptrool
Upvotes	3
Comments	36
Date	March 11, 2012 12:18 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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