Do we see poor men differently?

LAMGE2 · 2023-11-21T13:07:33+00:00

“Does society care less about poor men?” Well, the society cares less (IF ANY) about men in general lol

Current_Finding_4066 · 2023-11-21T12:19:57+00:00

Sad to see people demanding a shelter for men converted to a shelter for women. Men get less help and are less likely to become a dependant due to stereotypes.

It seems the the only reason feminist care about men, is them needing to be able to provide for women and children.

hottake_toothache · 2023-11-21T14:01:41+00:00

People don't care about men.

terrorist_giraffe · 2023-11-21T12:34:20+00:00

Link to the study they mention, if anyone is interested.

iGhostEdd · 2023-11-21T13:47:44+00:00

Just don't be born a man. It's so simple.

Comfortable-Crow9602 · 2023-11-21T12:16:54+00:00

Stuff and evidence like this unironically makes me want to take up arms and go out killing those responsible, and no, those responsible are not women, but the government. The American government and media are the unironic most powerful forces in the world, tomorrow our media could say "Atlantis exists stop being an anti-atlantis chud" and suddenly the whole world would believe Atlantis exists. The people in power want men to be hated and Idk why

Holy fuck I at the brink of poverty with little savings, reading this makes me want to end it all

TheTinMenBlog · 2023-11-21T11:47:14+00:00

Society sees men and women in fundamentally different ways.

Men are seen as the provider, the breadwinner, and protector of families. Women are often painted as the maternal carers in chief, or the meek damsel in distress, to be scooped up, and carried to safety.

Of course, neither of these regressive archetypes capture the truth of men and women, and over time, society has confronted such harmful stereotypes; be they in the workplace, at home, within business, or politics.

From the top down, gender norms are finally being shaken off and left behind.But what about the gender norms of poor people – and might these same regressive models of men and women, be impacting the way society sees and helps those living in poverty?

Well, the latest science suggest it does –

A new 2023 study has found we see poor men as more to blame for being poor, as more incompetent, and consequently, less deserving of protection of societal support.We look at a poor man and ask ourselves, ‘what has he done, or what mistakes has he made, to lead him to this life?

’Surely he is at fault for this situation, and he is the only one capable of hauling himself out of this mess.

“Pull yourself up by the bootstraps man, get yourself together, and sort your life out!”

The familiar life lessons from privileged brats (who have likely never known such hardship) dished out with a side portion of smugness.

But it’s not quite the same on the other side.As for poor women we more often ask, ‘what has been done *to her*, how has she been wronged, or hurt, to leave her destitute in this way?”

Women are the passive object of fate, and men are the instigator.It makes little sense to me.Worse, from these antiquated and harmful attitudes are borne intervention strategies, shelters, and support programs, actively refusing to help men – the group most likely to experience homelessness.

So do we see poor men and poor women differently?And who will confront and undo such gender norms, that have left so many of these poor men out in the cold, for so long?

What do you think?

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Study

Images by Mihaly Koles, Kiwi Hug, Humphrey Muleba, Dave AJ, and Jon Tyson.

lIllIlllIl · 2023-11-21T15:27:06+00:00

Society doesn't care about us unless we provide value. Society cares about women unconditionally. Men are guilty until proven innocent.

walterwallcarpet · 2023-11-21T17:10:19+00:00

'Progressive' policies make men poor. EEO and AA act against the interests of men in employment, now exacerbated by the necessity for employers to follow guidelines imposed by DEI (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion), and ESG (Environmental, Social, Governance). The latter might as well read Climate, Feminism, and make sure you stick to the governance of DEI principles.

Employment forms a very large part of male relationship with society, whereas females have their own intrinsic value, independent of employment.

If a man is disfavoured for a job, his chances of being poor increase. His chances of forming a stable relationship with a woman decrease. He becomes even less visible to society, who now sees him as having not much to offer, and treats him, with increasing contempt, as a burden.

r_c2999 · 2023-11-21T13:40:45+00:00

I lived near college point growing up this was just fucked up. Goes to show the empathy gap is real and is arguably worse for men who’re poor. Also shows the underlying hate towards men in society.

danielm316 · 2023-11-21T15:57:26+00:00

And still some people say that men are privileged and women are oppressed.

Current_Finding_4066 · 2023-11-21T12:11:12+00:00

Sure, let me get health and wealth. It's lying around in bounds if you are a man. Some are to lazy to pick it up.

MattR9590 · 2023-11-21T16:50:50+00:00

Duh. Society dosent give a single solitary shit about poor men. Even less so if you’re not in a certain demographic.

AdGreedy8753 · 2023-11-21T14:03:33+00:00

Shreddersaurusrex · 2023-11-21T16:51:22+00:00

I have had family try to financially abuse me. I was told that it was a “civil matter.”

Men are essentially told to kick rocks.

SatayBilik · 2023-11-21T20:41:32+00:00

Fuck feminism

Humanityhasfallen · 2023-11-21T12:18:10+00:00

This has to be satire, 'Cause ain't no way.

wwwhistler · 2023-11-21T18:25:00+00:00

unfortunately in today's society if a woman does not or can not produce an income...she still has value to society.

but if a man does not or can not produce income , he has no value in society at all.

even if he performs a needed function (as in a stay at home Dad) his perceived value will be greatly diminished if not eliminated.

Manic_mogwai · 2023-11-21T20:14:54+00:00

It’s like when some men didn’t join the world war 1 effort. In that instance, women handed out white feathers to belittle them.

It’s a ‘join our system or die’ way of thinking. An idiotic self reinforcing behavior perpetuated by peoples so bought in to capitalism it became their measure of a person’s value. Simply by how much they can provide the system and those who reap the rewards.

When one differs from the herd, shame follows as a method of control. No money = no value, such a primitive mindset.

Batokusanagi · 2023-11-22T00:16:27+00:00

How does society view male poverty? It doesn't, sadly.

EnormousPurpleGarden · 2023-11-22T03:06:59+00:00

Western society doesn't recognise men as human.

C0sm1cB3ar · 2023-11-22T06:21:47+00:00

The double standards is baffling

FartOnACat · 2023-11-22T09:07:28+00:00

What are you guys talking about? There are plenty of homeless shelters for men.

They're called prisons.

No_Discipline_7867 · 2023-11-22T05:03:16+00:00

Dear poor men, just stop being poor, so you can take care of women.

whatdoesottoknow · 2023-11-22T09:07:58+00:00

I love these infographics slides. Never stop making them!!

Title	Do we see poor men differently?
Author	TheTinMenBlog
Upvotes	858
Comments	36
Date	November 21, 2023 11:46 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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