"everyone is a feminist until war breaks out and conscription begins"

Gullible_Egg_6539 · 2026-03-01T16:15:01+00:00

i generally don't take feminist organizations seriously unless they ask to be drafted to war like men. beyond that, it's just them trying to be victims.

TheDwiin · 2026-03-01T18:59:22+00:00

They do have an argument for this: "We don't want men to be conscripted either!" Except there aren't protests that happen in countries that are conscripting men, and not women, but there are protests when they suggest women should be conscripted too.

MeasurementNice295 · 2026-03-01T18:18:02+00:00

Oh, unless they're male feminists, either the simpsocialist or the conservacuck kind, they sure are all dying to die for women and will insist on dragging all "fellow" men along with them to a mass grave. 🙄

Men are a man's worst enemy.

brainquantum · 2026-03-02T09:44:10+00:00

I think that feminists are always feminists even when they don't oppose male-only conscription. In fact, the most extreme theories within this movement see the existence of conscription for men as generating opportunities for socio-economic development for women.

Let's say that if we consider male/female relations through the lens of competition or gender class warfare, with men being the oppressive class, then we can see that encouraging, or at least maintaining, male conscription offers many advantages. Every year, many young men, at critical junctures in their lives when they are developing both intellectually and socially, are excluded from university or vocational training programs, and from the job market. This is, in fact, a common complaint among men, who argue that they are forced to start their studies or enter the workforce later, accumulating a developmental lag that puts them at a constant disadvantage compared to women; this is a common refrain in countries like South Korea, Austria, and Switzerland.

But from a feminist perspective, this means less competition for women and more opportunities for them. Moreover, when one reads the writings of feminist authors or those in the social sciences, World Wars I and II are seen as an opportunity for development and transformation for women because the absence of an entire generation of young men reduced competition and allowed women to access new positions.

And that is precisely the goal of feminism, regardless of the label one gives it: it is about using social engineering to force societal change that gives more opportunities to women. Men in this narrative are either ignored or seen as the cause of all the problems (the most common approach today).

From a historical perspective, feminists have never had a problem with male conscription. For example, during the First World War, in the UK, some feminists created harassment groups that patrolled the streets and targeted young men they encountered, blaming them and making them feel ashamed for not yet being drafted into the army. For more details on the very dark side of feminist movements, there's this post, for example, which provides a lot of information: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1or0pfd/feminisms_true_history_a_movement_founded_on/and then this one for an overview of the different currents: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/1ojusei/our_relations_with_feminism/

fraktalmau5 · 2026-03-01T18:59:05+00:00

NOW wrote an amicus brief siding with national coalition for men when their case against male only selective service came before the Supreme Court.

Emily58427 · 2026-03-07T22:41:46+00:00

"the feminist movement", is that one single homogenous movement?

Looking4OpposingView · 2026-03-02T01:57:32+00:00

Draft used to one of the rarest cases in which completely agreed with Men's Rights movement

It is definitely a female privilege to avoid conscription, but are they the cause ?

Would it be unfair to say that the war is not caused by women, there are men on the other side who caused it

my username is self explanatory, just looking for a rational response.

Slayingallthesewomen · 2026-03-02T07:42:57+00:00

I’m a feminist. I’m also leftist. I still stand for mens rights, even if it has a bitter aftertaste sometimes. I don’t think it’s right that men are forced to go to war. I don’t want anyone to go to war either.

Title	"everyone is a feminist until war breaks out and conscription begins"
Author	crumble_hunter
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Comments	43
Date	March 1, 2026 10:38 AM UTC (5 months ago)
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