Hate being a man

ayhme · 2025-02-05T02:13:52+00:00

You matter but you got to live your own life.

Vegetable_Ad1732 · 2025-02-05T03:12:41+00:00

Don't hate being a man, hate those who make things this way.

Melodic-Line6311 · 2025-02-05T02:22:03+00:00

You love being a man once you stop listening to the left and other misandrist

T-72B3OBR2023 · 2025-02-05T03:45:59+00:00

You hate it because you allow your enemies to affect you. Why do you give them the time of day? Be proud of being a man, men built modern civilization, men are strong and resilient, why do you care what some lonely femcels say on the net? Half of them dont even mean what they say or are already in a relationship and are just chattering amongst eachother for validation.

Your biggest problem is r rationalizing people who argue from a place of emotion and hate.

Beginning_Fruit7527 · 2025-02-05T03:19:01+00:00

I know.. if I tell my story here in reddit to sexual assault or some where else. I have bad english and what happen to me is true.
But still when they notice that I am man, so then I got banned from group or from Reddit, because usually they have hard to believe, that can happen to men too.

Adventurous_Design73 · 2025-02-05T03:42:10+00:00

Same get's worse if you are mutilated

TenuousOgre · 2025-02-05T06:17:56+00:00

Work out, get strong, pick a hobby and make some close friends and focus on your long term goals. The less you care the more you're interesting. Also gives you more power in the dynamic.

Excellent_You5494 · 2025-02-05T03:02:33+00:00

You do have to make friends. Philia, a level of friendship that was fairly exclusive to men, CS Lewis talked about it a lot. In a radio lecture, that is free on YouTube, he noted that it was becoming less and less common for men to have deeper friendships in the 50s and 60s.

To take yet another pot shot at feminism, this is about the time men started losing exclusive spaces due to feminist political activities.

But anyway, I've found what he says about philia to be true. Male friendships, contrary to feminism's idea of them, are extremely deep, and conversation is deeper than the kind women might have, and it's deep to a point where 2 guys can not speak for years, then get together and continue the last conversation they had the last time they saw each other.

We like to talk about the romantic lonliness, but the Platonic lonliness is more important, it's important for the romantic life as well, having no friends is considered a red flag.

https://youtu.be/Uo-jCgWOQXo?si=8h5uN3BHHrg1TEGg

maxhrlw · 2025-02-05T03:40:33+00:00

Life is suffering! There are a lot of advantages to being a man though.

A lot of it is precluded by being in the right headspace. Once you get into a negative thought spiral it's very difficult to pull yourself out of it.

Only advice I can give is get off the internet. Get involved in the real world with real people.

UpbeatLecture3941 · 2025-02-05T03:53:04+00:00

I think part of what you're feeling is to do with being misled by the left (and basically just mainstream society). To expect validation etc. and to talk about their feelings has only very recently become something that men have been socialised to do. However, despite the progressive / gynocentric emphasis on these things as being desirable, men who buy into them continue to be poorly received in a range of potentially catastrophic ways. Coming to terms with the reality that you have been thoroughly misled is difficult, and it would of course have been easier if we had never been misled at all. But we were.

As a man, you are basically alone. However, there is no shame in being alone in this way. This is now normal for a man. We don't really need what the dominant narrative tells us we need, despite how loud, pervasive and manipulative that narrative is.

As men (and women too, but not for their personal survival) we can and must be rational and humble rather than allowing emotions, propaganda, manipulation or any kind of irrational or external factors to sway us, meaning we think for ourselves and are never primarily motivated by external validation; we are able to stand alone and be comfortable with that. As men, we must take action to change our habits and secure our future when it is required. If we don't do that, we will inevitably fail and we will suffer. All of these qualities are what wives require from their husbands, children from their fathers, and humanity from its men. We were born to be able to keep ourselves and others afloat. We should feel proud that we were chosen to do this (by God, by evolution, etc.).

I think being misled so egregiously is the main thing that has caused so many men to be miserable. But, the power is in your hands to get back on track and be true to your manhood. We must recognise our biological drivers and what humanity truly requires of us. We must quiet the noise of politics and social media and the like, and take some time to listen to ourselves and take stock of what really matters. Importantly, we must at all costs remove toxic people from our lives, even if they are our own mothers.

Going to the gym, eating better and being productive is actually a pretty good idea. Sometimes, when the problem seems large and complex, it doesn't make sense that any part of the solution could be simple, not to say that discipline is easy. But maybe it is simple.

I think doing these things results in men to finding the right people, other like-minded men who are also headed in the right direction.

uoklai · 2025-02-05T10:08:49+00:00

Listen, what you wrote is a cry from the soul, and you’re absolutely right: being a man is really hard. People often forget what we have to go through. From the very moment we’re born, we’re under pressure. As boys, we’re told to let girls win, to share with them, to never defend ourselves if they hurt us. “Be a gentleman,” they say. But what it really means is: endure humiliation and accept being pushed aside because that’s your role. From childhood, we’re taught to be oppressed. Then we grow up, and nothing changes. We burn out solving everyone else’s problems because no one else will. We suffer in silence because complaining is seen as weakness by society. Take divorces, for example. How many men lose everything: their home, their kids, half of what they’ve earned, and then still have to pay alimony while barely surviving themselves? Or how often do men end up on the streets because there’s less support for them than for women? And then there’s the psychological pressure. “Men don’t cry,” “Man up,” “You’re a man, so you must.” This destroys us. That’s why male suicide rates are so much higher. No one says, “Hey, you’re tired, it’s okay to ask for help.” No, instead, they tell you, “Shut up and keep going.” But here’s what I’ll tell you: you matter. Your pain is real. You have the right to feel this way and to shout about it. Don’t let the system or society crush you. You’re not here just to endure. If the world doesn’t value men, at least let us value each other. Brother, you’re not alone.

Fffgfggfffffff · 2025-02-05T11:13:42+00:00

they’re racist to think and treat men are the same and is a all the same ,single mind group.

because they are discriminated in some way, or they think they have , they think it’s ok to discriminate others .

Hate only fuel more hate .

There’s no understanding different needs and talking about solving problems.

Fffgfggfffffff · 2025-02-05T11:29:13+00:00

They think men are oppressors , and is source of all world problems because men represent lots of powerful positions.

it is time to let women to be on representation positions of power, and responsibility since they think men in powerful positions won’t listen to their wives opinion.

They said women are sexualizaed more and men aren’t. ( That women can’t show off their upper body like men)

This sort of things have advantages and disadvantages too, but women are very safe compared to men in first world or even other countries.

Men are what, 4times more likely to face violence?

If anything society protect women , women protect women , men protect women .

Men expected to protect women .

Women aren’t expected to protect men ( not even in any form )

While men can only have itself most of the time.

Because average men in lots of countries are expected to go to war they didn’t start and not women .

Content_Eggplant_936 · 2025-02-05T11:37:59+00:00

Being a man can be a very beautiful thing. You get to carve out and design your own life. You have to stick with it. The good doesn't come easy.

NoBuilding1051 · 2025-02-05T11:47:56+00:00

Don't hate being a man, man. Love yourself first.

ilovesleep95 · 2025-02-05T13:08:01+00:00

I was just talkin to my husband last night about how men have no outlet to let off steam and just truly be men. I then said that when men finally allow them themselves to just be men, it’s suddenly toxic masculinity. Men just can’t win.

paradoxicalman17 · 2025-02-05T13:09:24+00:00

The worst part is there are many shitty men who would backstab another guy just for something trivial. Male solidarity feels like a myth

dougpschyte · 2025-02-05T10:22:27+00:00

Don't let them beat you.

Fight, fight, fight.

We WILL prevail. The opposition do not have what it takes.

CarrieTheFive · 2025-02-05T03:21:55+00:00

I feel like we really get each other. If it helps, I mostly feel the same way you do and I even cry myself to sleep sometimes thinking of this, except I'm also wishing more for women's reconsideration of our gender as a whole. It's not fun for our kind.

Remote_Purpose_4323 · 2025-02-05T10:41:39+00:00

Don’t hate being a man, hate the society and love being a man!

cybearviking · 2025-02-05T10:44:55+00:00

Oh, I feel yah. Married and loyal to the same woman for 14 years. She cheats on me AND I have to give her my house? Thanks world. Yeah, how dare I be a good and caring man to my hypergamous wife. She was simply approached by a wealthy guy and BAM I didn’t matter anymore. What resources do I have to help recover from this ordeal? Nothing. Thinking of taking that toaster bath for science.

InPrinciple63 · 2025-02-05T07:33:29+00:00

I tend to think of it in this way: we are created by the universe in a miracle of life that implicitly makes a place for us and a basic "worthiness". Other people can try to take it away or convince us we don't have it, but it's a principle they can't destroy because it was given to us by a much higher power than them.

With that mindset kernel of worthiness, it's easier to resist those that would put us down, because there is a point they can't force us below. Life was given to me, to use and I acknowledge other lives are for them to use.

We are fundamentally alone, except for our own efforts to make connections, but DIY ain't so bad because it removes control by another or having to meet someone else's needs instead of our own: we can't control others and if we believe in live and let live, we shouldn't compel them to meet our needs either.

The biggest issue I see is that men aren't taught how to find their own path, but given a single path that relies on the cooperation of another person who has their own desires and is increasingly divergent from that path.

There isn't any point in complaining because few people care and are too embroiled in their own path. You have to seek the solution yourself, by first understanding the problem by drilling down to the fundamental life goals you have, not the expedient solutions to those goals that have been handed to us by tradition and no longer work.

Men don't have to do it alone though, other men are in the same predicament and could share and cooperate, however entrenched homophobia and competition are blocking the path that have to be deliberately dismantled and this is where it takes effort on your part, to summon the courage to reach out to other men in a similar situation through mechanisms that already exist such as mens groups (including mens erotic awareness groups such as The Body Electric).

Basically men have to find a new life path themselves because women aren't going to change or help men (they have their own things to work on) and other men aren't going to help if they don't know you exist and are experiencing similar things.

Competition between men is based on access to women, but if women are going to deny access anyway, then what's the point chasing that avenue and competing, instead of cooporating with other men to find a solution? Now, this is where things can go wrong, if your intent is to form an alliance with other men to coerce or manipulate women to give men what they want: live and let live means it is unethical to force someone to comply with our wishes; it's part of the ancient civilising wisdom about "do unto others as you would have others do unto you".

I can't really blame other men for simping to women in the hopes of getting access to sex, but I believe it is pointless trying your hardest for scraps thrown from the table, and throwing others under the bus to do so, because it's all womens choice and it isn't based on reason. Men do best with reason.

Sadly life doesn't hand men what they want on a silver platter, so men have always had to do it themselves, except competition has gotten in the way of cooperation and we are just beating our heads against a brick wall but expecting a different outcome: it's time to step around that wall and find an easier solution. But first you need to understand what you are trying to solve.

It does matter that you are a man: men have reason and reason built society based on cooperation; competition is primitive nature stuff, kill or be killed, survival of the fittest; civilised man is potentially much better than that.

At the end of the day, finding other paths that lead to your fundamental life goals may in fact result in attracting women back eventually when they get lonely because men are now DIY without them, but that shouldn't be your objective because its based on fickleness and unpredictability.

You hate the current life path being mapped out for men by women, so follow your own in good conscience and wisdom with the help of like minded men.

GypsyPrae · 2025-02-05T07:59:52+00:00

Okay princess, so you don't like challenge with rewards. I enjoy my rewards. Called life, wasn't ever easier, gotta work through it smart. Today too many people lives in mama hotel for too long, thinking that comfort is life. Wish you to find your motivation (respect yourself and start enjoying your precious time until you're alive).

rocktarogar · 2025-02-05T11:42:48+00:00

Yes, sometimes I feel like that. Some days I just say "F you world!" and go to smoke my pipe n drink some beer at beach, looking at the sea and mountains wondering when and how I'll go hike there (it's military owned place), then go home, eat a good meal, take a nap and enjoy my hobbies. I'll not give this world the joy of getting rid of me. Nope. I'll endure this purgatory (society) and I'll laugh when it crumbles on its own fault.

Otherwise_Trust_6369 · 2025-02-05T13:21:29+00:00

It must be super hard right now to be Donald Trump or Elon Musk. Which do you think has it worse?

Ok-Fee-2067 · 2025-02-05T04:59:18+00:00

Have you tried getting into MMOs?

Reasonable_Monk7688 · 2025-02-05T08:11:06+00:00

It is what it is. Keep going.

Some-Row8117 · 2025-02-05T09:27:52+00:00

You just gotta live life life is hard but do what you love most and value what you have now before it’s gone then you won’t feel lonely

Friendly_Might_1348 · 2025-02-05T08:44:08+00:00

I feel you, brother. That sucks! I wish I was born a woman in the next life. Women are treated like human beings, their issues are taken seriously, they're always loved for who they are. I know I can change it in this life too, but it costs a lot of money and you have to feel like you're in the wrong body since childhood which would be a lie to me and I'm not good at lying. Plus unfortunately recently such operations were banned by the government of the country I'm from

TinyBlonde15 · 2025-02-05T02:29:58+00:00

I don't want to overstep but have you checked out the guycry sub reddit? It's literally a bunch of men there for you emotionally and seems to help a lot of guys out! I am so sorry you're feeling this way. Wish I had a magic wand to make it better but unfortunately I'm not a fairy godmother... though that would be amazing

Title	Hate being a man
Author	Apprehensive-Alps279
Upvotes	160
Comments	54
Date	February 5, 2025 1:51 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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