MR and porn

penikripa · 2012-08-07T20:50:09+00:00

Unless I'm missing something, the MRM fights against the oppression of men, right?

Well, the men that do porn are doing so out of their own accord, and the men that watch porn choose to do so themselves. I don't see how this can be framed as a men's rights issue.

It reminds me of feminists looking at some half-naked female top-model on the cover of some magazine and whining about the objectification of women by the patriarchy.

DunstilBrejik · 2012-08-07T22:27:03+00:00

Anti-Porn or Pro-Change-Of-Porn? They are two different things, I am Pro-Freedom, porn is consensual, and you choose to watch it, if you want to be in/watch porn, why should we be trying to stop you?

InfallibleBiship · 2012-08-07T22:37:31+00:00

I prefer open and free societies even if there is some harm from that.

Sebatron · 2012-08-07T20:28:33+00:00

I got three words for you: freedom of speech.

I'm pretty sure many (if not the majority) in this subreddit would agree with me o[n] this.

EpicJ · 2012-08-07T20:39:24+00:00

Some feminists also believe porn is good though as it shows empowered women doing what they want yadadada.

ignatiusloyola · 2012-08-07T20:10:54+00:00

You won't find many sex-negatives here, and to claim that most feminists are sex-negative is pretty ignorant. Sounds like you have an agenda and are trying to convince people of something that is on pretty loose grounds.

ghebert001 · 2012-08-08T01:25:41+00:00

To be honest, I'm sure men (most of us anyway) don't have any unreasonable expectations regarding the way masculinity is portrayed in porn. I have never for one second thought "hey, why is that guy simply able to rip someone's clothes off at any given time and just have sex whenever/wherever?". I don't think that because like any movie, I know there's something called "acting" involved.

The only reason why men, IMHO, have ever been against porn is because either they are addicted to porn and think everyone who watches porn is or will be or, they have been brainwashed to think porn is demeaning to women and the white knights that they are, will do anything to protect princess.

Women who are anti-porn on the other hand...as far as I'm concerned, they hate porn because they want the monopoly on how their husbands and boyfriends get sexual pleasure. In other words, they don't like competition.

rottingchrist · 2012-08-08T03:38:11+00:00

the woman's role is to act as a receptacle for one or more objects and pretend to enjoy it; her agency is stripped away.

Why do you choose to view it like that? It could even be seen as the woman taking whatever the man has to offer and using him for her enjoyment.

In pornography, any man can have sex with any woman in any way he pleases any time he likes. The reason for this is because all women are either closet nymphomaniacs or the man has an irresistible sexual appeal.

Uh... the point of porn is to depict a sexual act. Kinda hard to do that if the woman agrees to be in the porn video and then declines on camera.

Either way, upvoting since this could be a good discussion.

VerySpecialSnowflake · 2012-08-07T21:05:27+00:00

There are a lot of really awful things about pr0n but...I don't "oppose" it unless it is done by coercion, assault, blackmail, etc.

LAMFF · 2012-08-07T20:39:27+00:00

Porn has been around since cavemen started painting on cave walls. It will never be eradicated by any government or any religion that tries. Could it have negative social affects? Maybe so. Does it have positive social affects? Most definitely. Is it any of your business or the governments business what people get off to in the privacy of their homes (provided it is legal)? Absolutely not.

Title	MR and porn
Author	Froolow
Upvotes	0
Comments	39
Date	August 7, 2012 3:02 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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