Question for you all

FbxCycler · 2023-05-20T07:58:39+00:00

For me it comes down to this.

Women need to know and realize that men are human beings.

We have feelings too. We can be hurt. We can (and often do) suffer and feel pain, both in the heart and in the mind.

Women need to accept us as human beings first.

Until that happens, a lot of issues that are discussed on this sub will never be resolved.

Men are people too.

PricklyGoober · 2023-05-20T04:59:52+00:00

For me, specific to countries with male-only conscription, it’s being conscripted against your will.

I mean there have been women here who have said stuff like “it’s only 2 years of camping”, or “the training was tougher last time”, the latter is true, but coming from a woman who never has had to be forced into it?

Sir_vendetta · 2023-05-20T05:42:16+00:00

Moving on with the times, we are in an era that is all about rights and equality.

women and children's rights, and equality.
trans and homosexuals rights, and equality.
black people's rights, and equality.
ethnic minority's rights, and equalities.
religious beliefs rights, and equalities.

Everything in today's society is about rights and equality, even trees, animals, fish...Everything has rights, except men.

HfUfH · 2023-05-20T13:50:28+00:00

The fact that men suffer from discrimination based on their gander

Throning · 2023-05-20T06:59:05+00:00

Specifically?

Paternity.

There's an incredible barrier & empathy gap about paternity, because at least to me, it seems deeply seated in women's psyche that they can't relate with what it's like to "not know" whether you're the father. They have no real equal frame of reference for it - speaking in equivalent terms, they know with such extreme confidence that they are the mother (the baby did literally come out of their body), that they know with practically absolute certainty that they are the mother.

They cannot, and frankly will not, understand that Men and Fathers have only to rely on what happened 9 months ago, to know if the child is theirs. And it makes absolutely no sense to me how some countries like France would actually ban paternity tests without a court order - it only seems like it'd be in the interest of equality to afford men a similar degree of confidence about who their children are, to the point that I think we should encourage, if not mandate, paternity tests.

thomas_gabriel88 · 2023-05-20T08:31:26+00:00

How serious false accusations can be. And they are always downplayed

No_Discipline_7867 · 2023-05-20T07:29:57+00:00

I agree with you when it come to parental rights. A lot of men absolutely do love their children. A lot of us aren’t the uncaring assholes you think we are. Some are, yes, but that goes for some women too. It’s not “all mothers nurturing, all fathers uncaring” like is shoved down society’s throat.

phoenician_anarchist · 2023-05-20T05:05:11+00:00

Any acknowledgement that they even exist would be a step up in most cases.

I think what I would go for is understanding the fact that we're different. It's not exactly an issue, but it underpins a lot of things; the education gap, suicide, "toxic masculinity", etc.

Vegetable_Ad1732 · 2023-05-21T03:36:21+00:00

That men are fully human with just as many feelings and sensitivities as women have. Women have no more right to hurt men either emotionally or physcally than men have to do the same to women.

Harsh-Pain-No-Gain · 2023-05-21T10:57:02+00:00

Oh My Heavens, the List is so Damn Long.

I am Woman and I strive to Get Better Every Day in Understanding Men, because I have vowed to Always be on the Side of Justice.

But here are Examples:

Fathers Victims of Custody Theft
Damn Empathy Gap
Men allowed to cry because Tears DON'T make you weak.
More Male Suicide cases than female
DISGUSTING Gym Hoes FRAMING DELIBERATELY men as "creeps. I will NEVER forgive them!
Women framing men in general. Unforgivable.
Women being allowed to hit men but men forced to take it.
More Male Victims of Homicide & Violence than women
Male Compulsory Draft.
Male Circumcision

Feel Free to add up to the list. It's Eternal.

shit-zen-giggles · 2023-05-20T06:49:51+00:00

I'd like for them to understand that if they continue to demand to be put ahead unfairly in education, they won't get the economically ahead husbands they desire.

odoof12 · 2023-05-22T00:48:33+00:00

just what its actually like to be a man and that ALL of it is social bs

I wish I could just make any woman I argue with about this be in a male body for just a week so they could really realize how shitty it is.

AdIllustrious6191 · 2023-05-20T16:58:17+00:00

That not all men think women are wonderful.

AspirationsOfFreedom · 2023-05-20T10:52:45+00:00

For me, i'd love for them to understand the isolation. We are alone. Most of us won't get a text for days, getting a first text from a woman is rare, and we are disposable so if we arent up to whatever standard... you will be alone.

Nobody cares. Compliments are super rare. You are even viewed as a threat while basicly walking.

I understand how victimhood is super popular, i understand how feminisms cries about injustice is so tempting. But men suffer alot. And one of the biggest risks for the future is the hordes of invisible men. Sexless, unwanted, unloved. And those people can turn very violent if ignored for too long.

Za__guy · 2023-05-20T08:01:28+00:00

I am not facing what I will say but it literally stopped me from immigration to western culture countries

It's marriage laws. The wife take half my money and salary if we divorced

That was a big no. Other than that is slavery. I want to build my life and gather money without loosing half of my one life savings. I want to do it without the sacrificy of not having a family

So I stayed in my country

TooMuchToThinkToday · 2023-05-20T13:17:35+00:00

I wish that women would understand I am happily married to a non feminist traditional female. That doesn't mean I forced her, it doesn't mean she is a slave. It means she is my loving wife. Stop demeaning her and other women who make the choice to be women of that sort.

Title	Question for you all
Author	-Blueberry-1
Upvotes	18
Comments	27
Date	May 20, 2023 4:33 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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