Statistics

omegaflux · 2012-01-31T00:57:47+00:00

Lists like these need to be better sourced and correct. I wrote a 15 page paper on fatherlessness and used some of these lists as a starting point.

You can't just give a quote like "50% of mothers see no value in the father's continued contact with his children" and say see this whole book. If you're referring to a specific statistic, give the page number. Since most original research is published in journals and not books, cite the actual study. Citing second hand sources is sloppy and inevitably leads to data being warped slightly with each subsequent citation.

A lot of things I found on lists like these, not the one you presented but the much longer ones that include stuff like juvenile delinquency and suicide, were taken way out of context. For instance, the next sentence would be a caveat that really changed what was being quoted.

Demonspawn · 2012-01-30T21:29:06+00:00

I would like to see the statistics on fatherless homes next to the statistics on motherless homes. I imagine both are detrimental compared with 2-parent homes.

PornoWizard · 2012-01-30T21:10:28+00:00

Christ, these statistics, or ones that are similar, come up about once a month. Not only is a repost, but the statistics do not SAY anything about one gender or the other. Statistics need proper context and oversight to become useful, otherwise they are just numbers. Look at the other posts that deal with similar statistics to see examples of both.

And: "LOL, FEMALES"?

I don't care where you found this or if you made this yourself. We don't need misogynistic bullshit like that.

Calcipher · 2012-01-30T22:15:44+00:00

A little off topic, but what is the distinction between "biological" and "natural" in the first pair of statistics?

MRMRising · 2012-01-30T20:02:45+00:00

Oops, these stats are way old, my bad.

DonaldBlake · 2012-01-30T21:07:14+00:00

Statistics are just number misogynistic men find to justify their war against females. The numbers don't matter, just that women were treated unfairly in the past and so now they should be allowed to enact the same unfairness towards men as retribution. Protecting the feelings of the women are more important than the statistical reality that their actions are detrimental to their children. [sarcasm]

TracyMorganFreeman · 2012-01-30T21:07:31+00:00

This might be easier to read, but as conceded, the stats are a bit old.

The site has other stat sheets as well, including divorce rates compared to custody policy

But yeah, that site could use an update definitely.

MrAquarius · 2012-01-30T22:51:15+00:00

I currently live with my mother (17) since my parents hav been divorced for some time now. In my case I am glad to say that I am not part of it.

One big reason why there is rape/running away from homes is because of lack of strictness from the mother. My father never beat me or used physical force, however he had complete control over me, I was afraid of him and therefore obedient. I would never dream to run away from my dads house. While my mother is a lot less strict which I partially blame for my lack of self discipline.

Either way - this should not be judged too harshly as numbers taken into account are not equal and context is the most important thing of all. These cases must be assessed on individual bases.

2012-01-30T23:09:53+00:00

Blink, blink. My God.

Demonspawn · 2012-01-30T23:41:55+00:00

Do the statistics fir "fatherless homes" take socioeconomic factors into account, has the effect of a lack of father been isolated from that of a comparatively deprived upbringing?

Quazz · 2012-01-31T06:14:44+00:00

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2012-01-30T23:11:08+00:00

Better image for making women mad.

Title	Statistics
Author	MRMRising
Upvotes	63
Comments	33
Date	January 30, 2012 8:00 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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