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This a true feminist

MrFanciful

September 9, 2016
19 upvotes
/r/MensRights
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Title This a true feminist
Author

MrFanciful

Upvotes 19
Comments 23
Date September 9, 2016 6:32 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/51yx0j/this_a_true_feminist/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/this-a-true-feminist.941932
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[–]secv808 15 points16 points17 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Come on. "True feminist?" The terrible conspiracy theories and political goals of feminism have been the same from the start. Don't start slapping the label "feminist" on women you happen to like. All it does is obfuscate for the ideology and helps them claim more people/events that they had no hand in facilitating. (Hello, intersectionalism!)

Honestly, folks. The feminist movement has been content with the male-only draft for almost a hundred years. How can this woman, who died in the field, be any kind of representative of that kind of complacency and entitlement?

[–]PotatoDonki 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Couldn't have said it better myself. She was a badass motherfucker for sure, but a feminist? Nah, she was just a freedom fighter.

Also, I love whenever people use the word "obfuscate."

[–]omegaphallic 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is a difference between a feminist and a women's rights activist.

[–]rg57 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are right. She was a true egalitarian, on that score. A true hero for her cause.

[–]mwobuddy 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Men do this all the time and its standard. Woman does this and its special. Maybe because women aren't apt to self-sacrifice.

[–]Elvick 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

tbf, feminists say that when people applaud fathers/husbands who do what "mothers/wives do" all the time. Are men not apt at parenting or being a partner? Is that why it's treated special?

[–]idisagreesoidownvote -4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Are you serious with this statement? Men do not do this all the time and they certainly are not more likely to do it more than women. Its rare for anyone to sacrifice themselves that's what makes it so noble and special. The only reason the article makes it sound like its special is because the woman who died was attractive and this is the problem that these feminist bogeymen that this subreddit demonizes has with the media. When a woman receives media attention her appearance is brought up even when it has nothing to do with the story. We don't need read about how attractive this woman is because the article has a pictures. People are going to make their own sexist judgments about any woman they see a picture of so they certainly don't need the media to do it for them. What makes this woman a hero is her sacrificial qualities. Mentioning her appearance detracts from that and it is a dishonor to her sacrifice.

[–]mwobuddy 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Men do not do this all the time

You are clearly extremely well versed in all literature on the subject of battlefield sacrifices. /s

[–]idisagreesoidownvote 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your angsty sarcasm is certainly noted but I still stand by the point that men do not do it all the time. If you consider all the men who have ever served in battle and then the number who have sacrificed themselves it is a rarity. Are you sure you are that well versed in "all of the literature on the subject of battlefield sacrifices?" This is what I don't understand about your original comment. How is that if a few men are willing to sacrifice themselves for others on the battlefield does that make it so that all women not as apt to self sacrifice as men? The fact that men like Thomas Baker valiantly died to protect their comrades makes him and others like him heroes but it doesn't mean that all men are likely to sacrifice themselves and it certainly does not mean that women are less likely to sacrifice themselves.

[–]idisagreesoidownvote -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not all sacrifices are on the battlefield.

[–]mwobuddy 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But they are the most readily visible and quantifiable, and most related to her act.

Derp.

[–]PotatoDonki 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

they certainly are not more likely to do it more than women.

Wut.

[–]dungone 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

certainly are not more likely to do it more than women

Right, like all the American women who also died after volunteering to fight alongside the Kurds: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/21/american-volunteer-dies-fighting-isis-levi-jonathan-shirle Oh wait no, that was a man. No American women did that. Oops.

[–]rg57 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why would you insult this woman's memory by calling her a feminist?

[–]SleepingSheeple6 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

She is a true humanist.

[–]speed585 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

More like Penelope Cruz. Agreed, this is a woman you can stand together as partners with.

[–]aussietoads 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All western feminists should be sent to war to liberate others in real danger. It's time they actually did something worthwhile.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bullshit. There is not such thing as a good feminist.

You are basically saying if you saw a decent German "this is a true Nazi".

A good, strong women does not equal a feminist.

Feminists are ideological bullies who seek to tear apart society, not put their own neck on the line to save it.

[–]BDMR_lurker 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

When multi-hued, cat-collecting land whales claim they 'fight', this is what they're comparing themselves to.

But I'm certain this is also how they see themselves, inside their tiny heads.

[–]GalacticForces00 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

PKK/YPG is terrorist organization. Ankara bombing: Female suicide bomber spent time in Syria

[–]alclarkey 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a Strong Woman I can handle.

[–]PalestinianBanker1 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Spoken like someone who knows little of the cult of "Apo" lol. Good riddance to this dog

[–]Leinadro -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A real feminist and real hero. Damn shame she had to actually make the ultimate sacrifice.

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