Why aren't these classes offered to our sons?

Kuonji · 2010-09-08T17:15:47+00:00

The image of a teenage girl getting assaulted is significantly more distressing to the public than the image of a teenage male getting assaulted.

jackwripper · 2010-09-08T17:11:32+00:00

Because boys don't have anything to be afraid of. Boys don't get attacked or raped or anything.

Yes, I've always been upset that they offer these classes to women but not men. Closest thing guys have is a concealed carry course or taking martial arts lessons or something like that. Course girls can go to those as well. Girls can do anything boys can, but there can be special events for girls.

teemark · 2010-09-08T20:36:59+00:00

That;s my purse! I don't know you!

Kaluthir · 2010-09-08T21:57:45+00:00

Because women are a huge market for self-defense.

pmaist · 2010-09-08T23:00:16+00:00

In my high school gym class they had a special self defense class for the ladies only. They also acted like it was some kind of big secret that the guys couldn't see. Ya know because we would probably take notes for when we later try to rape them.

cynwrig · 2010-09-08T19:21:07+00:00

I'd prefer the local municipalities offer a different set of self-defense classes for young men:

*verbal judo & self-defense

*political history of human sexuality

*predatory females - observation and avoidance techniques

koonat · 2010-09-08T20:59:53+00:00

It's security through obscurity.

If they teach these techniques to the boys, they'll be ready, and all these little rapists will just go rape-crazy with their new techniques and counter-techniques.

These classes should be offered to boys and girls, but the class seems to take place at a 'shelter' (presumably a women's only shelter) so that's probably completely out of the question here.

opk · 2010-09-08T20:38:13+00:00

I'm pretty sure most of those "women's self defense" classes involve crotch-kicking in some form or another. I can't imagine any boy wanting to learn how to be THAT kind of fighter.

wonko221 · 2010-09-08T22:34:31+00:00

These types of courses can offer benefit to both boys and girls. However, there are different issues present depending on the target audience.

For females, for instance, there is general a much more palpable sense of impropriety in taking aggressive steps to protect yourself. They are conditioned to rely on others for safety, and are implicitly encouraged to have a victim frame of mind. Little boys, on the other hand, are encouraged (until recently, it seems), to run around and engage in mock-violent horseplay.

Because these programs aren't free to run, they are marketed in ways that the promoters expect to draw sufficient attendance. One way is to restrict classes to females, so that the "gentler sex" will feel free to attend without anxiety over being intimidated by males in the classroom.

You want to fix it, learn the material and begin offering your own self-defense classes. Of course, when you restrict it to "boys only", be prepared to meet the ugly double-standard that our laws gladly encourage.

AnnArchist · 2010-09-08T18:41:51+00:00

Because, generally, little boys are already interested in karate and other martial arts.

Little girls are assumed to have no interest in such things and thus need "special" girls classes to achieve the desired result.

yoyobubba · 2010-09-09T04:52:17+00:00

the better question is, why aren't we teaching stuff like this to our own children ourselves? same with sex ed. when did parenting become something you let someone else do because you didn't want to be "awkward"?

gigashadowwolf · 2010-09-10T05:08:28+00:00

Because for some reason, they don't realize that 80% of male abusers have been abused themselves, by men or women.

Offering those kind of classes for men would fix the problem and that would put the people financing these classes out of a job. They want to perpetuate the problem while appearing to fix it, subconsciously of course. On a conscious level they are every bit as deluded as the public.

guyNcognito · 2010-09-10T19:57:25+00:00

They are. They're called karate (or Tae Kwon Do or Judo, or Jujitsu or...), and they're better than those classes.

Title	Why aren't these classes offered to our sons?
Author	AnnArchist
Upvotes	29
Comments	47
Date	September 8, 2010 4:58 PM UTC (15 years ago)
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