Why do people avoid talking about false accusations? And why is femenism always portrayed as it's perfect?

DavidByron2 · 2021-07-16T15:57:42+00:00

I know false accusations don't happen to every single person

I've asked before but.... has anyone reading this NEVER been falsely accused of something, or had someone threaten to call the cops on them when they'd done nothing wrong? or had someone threaten to tell on them with a made up story?

DanteLivra · 2021-07-16T17:59:29+00:00

People are always sharing posts about "facts" on sexual assaults without even knowing about : the hidden number of criminality, how the perception of the public can have a big effect on it, the difference between harassment and assault and the huge bias against men in court in general.

The whole believe all women is so dumb, not only because it goes against the very fundation of most justice systems (not convicting innocent people) but it also gives the impression that women have the monopoly of victimhood. When in reality its men that are the primary victims of most crimes, should we say "believe all men" then ? Of course not. Not only that but as more studies comes out we realize that men get raped (legit raped, not harassed) as often as women, sometimes by other men but most of the time by women. But this data doesn't make it to the police because "made to penetrate" isn't considered rape, or even a crime in most countries.

Feminism was suppose to help all victims of sexual violence, instead they confused the population, make some women entitled and others deeply afraid, sexual violence was never this confusing and misunderstood by the population. The result is frustrated men doing bad things because we never taught them that they could consent. The result is women claiming to have been raped when she wasn't even touched, or spoken to. That she really believed that she was raped or not is irrelevant, she will still have an impact on real victims of abuse because the justice system has no other choice than to make sure to rule out the possibility of convicting an innocent person. The result is women thinking they are the primary victims of the world when they have the luxury to not fight wars, be stay at home parents or even complain about their government. The result is boys growing up to hate themselves, being told that they are dangerous and evil and that the slight slip up will lead to someone being raped. The result is those very same boys getting raped and abused by a teacher and being laught at, the teacher having barely any consequences. In some cases the teacher can even sue the kid when he is in his majority and ask for pension if she happened to have a kid (and willingly kept it). The result is grown ass women thinking that opening an onlyfans is one of the most prestigious career a woman can have. Feminism failed because it wasn't able to keep consistency.

Women should do as much money as men but when they do they complain about how it is harder to find a man who is going to spoil you. Spoil yourself you entitled "powerful" woman.

reddut_gang · 2021-07-16T17:08:29+00:00

Because they don't like it when they get portrayed in a negative light. This applies to both questions.

Ody_ssey · 2021-07-16T18:04:46+00:00

they literally went for about 70% of the guys in our year

That was on the news. EveryonesInvited website cannot verify the accusation so they just publicly publish whatever male is being named by the anonymous report.

Are parents not teaching boys about false accusations? Online accusation backed by a website is a powerful weapon. Thing is none of the accused girl is on that site so they are moderating the reports.

Gamer25862 · 2021-07-16T18:57:02+00:00

Holy shit that's horrifying.

antifeminist3 · 2021-07-16T22:41:04+00:00

'It will discourage other victims from coming forward'

This is a very biased feminist oriented statement which basically says that the man is not the victim in this case:

He gets arrested, which is basically another way of saying that the woman caused the man to be unlawfully forcibly confined. This is tantamount to kidnapping. I'm not blaming the police, I'm blaming the woman false accuser.
Loses friends, maybe job, and reputation.
Financial loses related to defending himself.

1 is the most significant, and I am surprised that I hear so little about it.

UnconventionalXY · 2021-07-17T00:38:11+00:00

Receive false accusations on Reddit all the time by people strawmanning my arguments: putting extreme interpretations to things that I say in order to discedit (eg "So you are saying its okay for men to rape women?").

Even if one is willing to correct every instance, it doesn't matter because people believe the implied accusation: rapist, rape apologist or whatever offense they interpret from what is said.

It's not surprising the Justice system insists on presumption of innocence, because it seems people are predisposed to lynch mob mentality like a kind of road rage catharsis of all their primitive frustrations on a sacrificial object.

RegularRick0 · 2021-07-16T20:24:36+00:00

A friend if mine got a disciplinary letter in his file for saying he is a classical feminist, not a modern feminist...thats how toxic things are getting.

DavidByron2 · 2021-07-16T16:02:34+00:00

What country is this? USA?

The reason the government sponsors feminism to go around screwing with men and fucking their lives up at random and encouraging false accusations and so on, is that the ruling class in America, and this is true in many countries but especially America, need to keep the workers divided between themselves and arguing about stuff other than the fact that 99.9% of the money is stolen by the wealthy elites. As a hate movement, feminism is great at causing a lot of strife and fuss and arguments. That's not to say what they do isn't bad. But the reason they are allowed to do it is deliberately to cause a distraction from CEOs getting paid 1000 times what an average worker is.

Total-Success2207 · 2021-07-16T20:59:24+00:00

"What should we do about the 'Kill All Men' movement?"

"Oh, it will only happen to one of you in our grade..."

WHAT? One false rape accusation will still ruin someone's life.

hifi3xx · 2021-07-16T21:31:36+00:00

Forget about false accusations, what about how the police automatically assume the female is correct and that the male is always guilty and right from the second the accusation is made.

Edit: What happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Morrighan1129 · 2021-07-16T21:54:43+00:00

Firstly, check the UK laws; here in the States, students cannot be legally required to fill out any sort of survey, either in k-12, or college. Administrators can ask, but they can't require it. I'd be surprised if the UK didn't have a similar law on the books somewhere, as it can lead to a lot of touchy issues regarding consent, and legal concerns.

The second part is much harder, and a longer road, and one you need to be sure of before you start. If you're sure of your path, you and some of your male friends should go to the administrators (it'd be the principle here, not sure what it'd be in the UK) with your concerns, and ask if you could have a speaker to come in to speak on the issue as a non-feminist. I know we have plenty of female anti-feminists here in the states, I'm sure the UK has many as well, although I regrettably don't know any. VERY IMPORTANT: make sure you have a few names in mind BEFORE you go to the administrator's office. Try to have as varied a group as you can; different political leanings, different outlooks on the topic, etc.

When the administrators inevitably turn down your request, go public; the lovely thing about the internet is that private media is now a thing. More people get their news from non-mainstream sources these days, which makes it easier to get your cause out there. Take it to anyone who will listen, while keeping a cool, calm head about the subject.

Don't turn it into a 'well, they said this,' or 'they do all these things!'. Keep it to the point in hand: schools are the place where children go to learn, not to be indoctrinated. Give the list of names of non-feminists you suggested to your principle, and ask why one of these folks couldn't speak.

Again: it's a long, arduous task that probably won't result in any changes until you've already graduated from school. But if you're truly dedicated to making a change, this is the best advice I have for you.

Felarhin · 2021-07-16T22:03:45+00:00

Because women make up about 85% of consumer spending and companies will bend over backwards to pander to them and men tend to judge each other on how popular they are with women so many will also bend over to pander to them regardless of their behavior.

Objective_Watch · 2021-07-17T06:19:00+00:00

False accusations r the reason y I’m going to put audio recording devices in my bedroom so that way if she falsely accuses me I can present the evidence to the cops also would doing what I just said be illegal if I didn’t tell the person I’m going to be having sex with that there r audio recording devices

omnithrope · 2021-07-16T20:31:12+00:00

Who says feminism is perfect? That's a big statement to make without any evidence.

Total-Success2207 · 2021-07-16T21:06:48+00:00

This reminds me of a thing that was at my school a couple years ago. The school had a program where a girl could just say a guy was creepy, and report him to the school, and he would have to go out of his way to not go anywhere near her, and his parents would be told that he was "creepy" or some shit. Someone I asked out reported me, and I found out through my parents, and it kind of ruined my innocence. Keep in mind, I was respectful, I didn't talk to her much after that, and I just kinda lived my life normally before my parents told me about it. Needless to say, I went to a different school the next year.

adarkpond · 2021-07-16T21:10:19+00:00

Its more terrifying that these accusers often never get the punishment they deserve. Idk how they live with themselves knowing that they ruined some poor guy's life.

Silver_The_Bard · 2021-07-16T21:28:20+00:00

Propaganda. You are describing the outcome of forced Propaganda over the last 50 years.

It was a great idea In theory that got taken too far. It's no longer about equality, it's about control.

whosthatcreep · 2021-07-16T22:24:38+00:00

It's the "women are wonderful" effect

2021-07-16T23:39:02+00:00

why is feminism always portrayed as it's perfect?

They never admit their mistakes, and when there are no mistakes being admitted you can't see any dirt whatsoever. All you see is a clean slate

DarkMindwithReason · 2021-07-17T00:58:10+00:00

How old are you my guy?

redFenning22 · 2021-07-17T02:52:52+00:00

The one thing that feminists really want to suppress is false rape allegation stats. "It's really rare".... Lmao. It's common as hell.

Sensitive-Bite-1075 · 2021-07-17T02:58:26+00:00

Because it’s the ploy of the feminist movement which is a mere arrow in the quiver of communism. Communism strives for total government control of every facet of life. The best way to do this is to destroy the nuclear family. Because fathers inherently provide for wives and children, taking them away is the best way to make citizens dependent upon the government. Government housing, gov’t healthcare, gov’t subsidized income, and gov’t education. Also, feminism has de-incentivized men from fulfilling their roles. “So I got her pregnant! So what? She can get money from the government so why should I marry her?” Also, Communism requires a smaller population in order to better exercise control and quell possible rebellion. That’s why feminism exists in order to make abortion more accessible. Less babies, less citizens, less voters. A small population dependent on government welfare. That’s the ultimate goal. The final solution of the Communist regime that is the United States of America.

thatgirlanya · 2021-07-17T05:28:38+00:00

Everyone lies and makes shit up about everyone. That’s humans for you. I’ve always wondered why rape is apparently “rarely lied about” (we all know why).

pavlikmmm · 2021-07-17T05:35:58+00:00

Because we live in a society

ShortSmash · 2021-07-17T06:15:38+00:00

It’s the war on males lead by lesbians

Greg_W_Allan · 2021-07-17T07:20:53+00:00

probably only happen to one of us in our grade

Only?

GroundbreakingEase00 · 2021-07-17T17:20:20+00:00

Because to talk about it shows cracks in their armor. If your in a fight to shape your outcome you never willing expose your weak points. Acceptable in 1 on 1 settings, not so much with a huge portion of the population believing the gospel of rape from any women's mouth.

RealKelvin365 · 2021-07-26T19:49:33+00:00

False rape accusations are nothing new and have a proud history. Havelock Ellis, an authority on sexual psychology, wrote on the subject 120 years ago. His report on the alleged violent sexual assault on girls in 1901 indicates that:

"...while they undoubtedly do occur, are very much rarer than the frequency with which the charge is made would lead us to suspect." Studies in the Psychology of Sex, Vol 1, 1936, first published 1901.

Dazzling_Ad_4426 · 2021-08-25T13:20:15+00:00

You're more likely to be raped yourself than be accused. Get your priorities straight.

bpdstalkers · 2021-09-09T21:23:35+00:00

Because it's a common enough pattern of behaviour with women, and enough want to have it as a backup plan that they have to close ranks and deny to keep it a viable strategy. Women have 0 morality.

davou · 2021-07-16T20:35:32+00:00

I'm the last person to identify as a feminist, but it certainly does not always assume perfection. There are whole camps of feminists that seem to exist just to hate on other 'types' of feminists. Some of them exclude trans women, or sex workers for example.

Like I said, I don't identify... but we do no one favors by making assumptions about people either. That's why we end up dismissed most of the time.

Title	Why do people avoid talking about false accusations? And why is femenism always portrayed as it's perfect?
Author	Depurplelobster
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Date	July 16, 2021 3:48 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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