Why Men Refuse to Marry

Tmomp · 2015-04-20T12:41:38+00:00

For every heterosexual man who isn't married there is a heterosexual woman who isn't too. The man is no more refusing to marry than she is.

If she hasn't

asked out a bunch of men
pursued a bunch of men on online dating sites
attempted a bunch of first kisses (while getting enthusiastic consent first but not ruining the moment)
negotiated who paid without seeming cheap
initiated sex (while getting enthusiastic consent first but not ruining the moment)
bought an expensive ring for the man she wants to marry
demonstrated to him that she can support children financially
proposed
and countless other things that lead to marriage

she is not only refusing marriage, she isn't even trying to make it happen.

Is there something genetic that only men can do those things? If so, then explain this deficiency in women. If not, go for it, ladies. Many men are waiting to be wooed. Otherwise, why do you refuse to marry?

MaestroLogical · 2015-04-20T09:40:17+00:00

Rather good article, even if it is just pointing out things we've known for years.

InBaggingArea · 2015-04-20T14:30:53+00:00

'I remember a court clerk telling me: “Whatever you do, don’t say you love your children. Family courts consider men who articulate this as extreme.” It was madness.’

This doesn't make sense to me. Why would this be extreme? Is it really regarded as extreme?

Genuine question.

Wargame4life · 2015-04-20T12:22:39+00:00

as stated so many times before, you don't owe anyone marriage, if the terms aren't equal you are under no obligation to give someone matrimony.

do what benefits you and if women complain, so what its not your problem who cares.

DailMail_Bot · 2015-04-20T06:13:30+00:00

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blueoak9 · 2015-04-20T15:38:09+00:00

Why is this described as "men refusing to marry", when there are no women for them to marry in the first place? There are very few women and swarms of aged out girls who feel entitled to whatever their little hearts desire. How is that men's fault - other than their fathers'?

PasswordIsNotTomatoe · 2015-04-20T12:03:45+00:00

My wife and I have agreed to not get married and it is great. We've been together for nine years and we don't fight about things like money. She buys her own groceries, I buy my own groceries, but we go grocery shopping together. She deals with her own car repairs and her own job and I deal with mine. We treat each other to dinner every now and then, but it is never an obligation or held over each other's head.

We also don't feel 'trapped' in this relationship and know that every day we are together, it is because we love each other.

blueoak9 · 2015-04-20T15:34:28+00:00

Good article but better than that, the confused and bitter comments are sweet, sweet music. This is a replay of the howls from men in the 70s. Suck it up, Sisterhood; this is the world you made.

Lrellok · 2015-04-20T12:02:22+00:00

Missing the problem by miles. According to livingwage.mit.edu, it costs $40000 to feed, cloth and house a family of four in the united states. Census data shows median 25-34 male income at $32000. That's an $8000 short fall. I cannot find marrying age male income by decile, but I am willing to bet that it hits 40k around the 70th percentile, which happens (que suprise) to be when men start getting married.

ASpooky_Ghost · 2015-04-20T15:24:28+00:00

I've never believed in marriage to begin with. It's an archaic tradition that needs to stop.

Edit: <schwarzenegger accent> GRAMMA!!! </schwarzenegger accent>

II-Blank-II · 2015-04-20T11:47:12+00:00

argues a wickedly provocative new book

The book might be new, but to those of the manosphere, this is like mens rights 101.

They don’t want to enter into a legal contract with someone who could effectively take half their savings, pension and property when the honeymoon period is over.

What a fucking absurd minimization of the real risks of divorce rape. If she only takes half your stuff you are one of the lucky few. Men typically lose 70% of "marital" assets, and then get raped for the rest of their lives with alimony and child support that (combined with taxation), will typically consume 70-110% of their post tax income (110% means you are accruing a "debt"). All while the cunt sits back and gets compensated for her loss of earning "potential". Hey, I also have great potential to be a doctor, but I didn't study hard or go to uni - can I get an income for free as well?

Men aren’t wimping out by staying unmarried or being commitment phobes. They’re being smart

Fuck yeah they are. They are wising up. Getting rich. Taking the red pill. Going MGTOW. If society self-destructs in the process that's just a bonus.

Marriage is like the Darwin awards in reverse - the men stupid enough to get married are also the ones that get to reproduce. Go figure. But my selfish genes are getting stroppy? Fuck them. I place myself above my fucking genes, little motherfuckers.

She also got personal maintenance of £406,500 a year from her ex’s future earnings. This, she said, was because she had ‘encouraged’ him to be a good midfielder.

You gotta wonder the tiny proportion of cunts who cash in on rich footballers...just how many ordinary (and probably decent women) will never find a husband. It is really ordinary women, not men, who will revolt against feminism. At least men can be smart and avoid the feminist holocaust and actually live very good lives compared to most men throughout history - whereas women have to basically sift through the trash in the hope of finding something worth living for. And no, a career with a "big salary" won't do it - men have known this for decades.

‘If he’s determined to get married, then he must get a pre-nuptial agreement,’ says Baldwin. ‘Otherwise steer clear altogether.

Yeah, those fool-proof, rock-solid prenups. Got to get meself one of thems. Think I'll take the second option. Oh, and for those men who really are set on getting married, I wonder what proportion of them are marrying Asian women (not that it changes anything).

Men need marriage like a fish needs a bicycle.

A bicycle is useless to a fish. But it won't turn it into a slave. Men need marriage like Jews needed the holocaust is more apt.

After decades of browbeating, men are tired.

I would say angry is more accurate. Men who get married are tired.

Tired of being told that if women aren’t happy, it’s their fault.

Fuck those cunts. They more unhappy they are the better, it means we are winning.

But by far the most negative aspect of marriage is the likelihood of being edited out of your children’s lives — if it all goes pear-shaped — by a state that has relegated the role of father to its lowest point ever.

Getting warm.

Men have long been considered aggressors and threats to the safety of children, but getting it wrong is a human trait, not a male defect.

Really? Women commit the vast majority of child abuse.

I remember a court clerk telling me: “Whatever you do, don’t say you love your children. Family courts consider men who articulate this as extreme.” It was madness.

And people think comparing the Family Court system to the holocaust is going to far. Not going far enough.

Meanwhile, young women ‘act out a skewed version of femininity that prioritises the use of sex and relationships with men above all else’.

I was hoping this was going to touch on false rape accusations, but alas.

Thank god for the internet. Imagine going forward in today's society without the foresight of what marriage is about - it's not like they are learning anything about the risks at school. The education system is part of the problem - trying to brainwash young boys with feminist gunk so they will be compliant domestic house-husbands.

The good news is men can be smart, and they can choose the incredible life of Going your Own Way. Seriously, there has never been a time in history when the opportunities to live world-wide, travel, get rich, enjoy technology, get easy pussy, have been as great as they are today. On the other hand, there has never been a time when the risks of getting married are absurdly high as they are today. Its not just a no-brainer, its base stupidity to even consider getting married (and we haven't even talked about the domestic violence laws that will basically criminalize being male).

MonkeyCB · 2015-04-20T21:42:09+00:00

Men bitching about a woman not dating them, friendzone loser who feels entitled to women's bodies.

Women bitching about men not dating/marrying them, men are losers who need to grow up.

runitonce007 · 2015-04-20T16:51:16+00:00

Pretty straight-talking article & somewhat surprised they printed it.

Trouble is, once u get married, you can no longer afford upset a woman. Or to rephrase, no longer have her be upset with you. Because they have all the power & a divorce will screw you over in any number of ways. Thats why so many men are whipped or browbeaten into acceptance

Whilst marriage is undoubtedly a good choice for some people, it does make me laugh hearing 28-yr-olds who've been married 18months going on about how great marriage is. LMAO, come back in 15-20yrs mate & see how you like it then

RedPillAnonymous · 2015-04-20T23:18:38+00:00

I would have read that article, but the constant add pop up was too obnoxious.

bitches_be_crazy86 · 2015-04-20T15:10:39+00:00

Wrong title for a thread. Should be why some men are still getting marriage raped?

Title	Why Men Refuse to Marry
Author	WildEndeavor
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Date	April 20, 2015 6:12 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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