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Do the mods now see the difference between genuine "race baiting posts" that should be removed and rational discussions of why its likely Indian and Asian men suffer in the open western SMP that are directly related to TRP?

Atlas_B_Shruggin

October 8, 2017
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Title Do the mods now see the difference between genuine "race baiting posts" that should be removed and rational discussions of why its likely Indian and Asian men suffer in the open western SMP that are directly related to TRP?
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Atlas_B_Shruggin

Upvotes 10
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Date October 8, 2017 4:37 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
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Comments

[–]Augustus_Rex 1 points1 points1 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

show bobs and vagene

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bitch lasagna

[–]caesarfecitPurple Pill Man9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

So long as the focus is on cultural differences and how to adapt, rather than "oh woe is me, white women don't like Indian or Asian men". One is highly relevant to our discussions, the other is a useless rabbit hole.

[–]aznphenix4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The latter seems to fall under normal incel woee is me guidelines though

[–]DebatesNotBans 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Every time with the Incel reference eh? Seems like PPD has a love-hate relationship with anything "incel".

[–]trail221 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So. its all cutural, none of it has to do with racism?

Geez, live in a nice world dont you

[–]FalseBuddhaSomething borrowed, something Blue2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you saying racism isn't cultural?

[–]DashneDK2King of LBFM9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

Indian & Asian men suffer to the degree that they fetishise white girls. However Western culture is superior to Indian & most Asian cultures - especially in the status of women, and women should be rightfully carefully about dating a man who may be influenced by such inferior cultures.

[–]trail220 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

thats liek saying white peopel fetishize white people..

There is a white standard fo beuty in this world.

[–]DashneDK2King of LBFM4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

White people are surrounded by white people, they are our family, friends, parents and children. Of course we fetishize white people.

But I see plenty of pretty Asian girls, and African American girls in the USA. So it's not like its the only beauty standard.

[–]trail220 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Its hard to fetishize the beuty standard

[–]DashneDK2King of LBFM2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

You don't think for instance Asian girls are celebrated for their beauty?

[–]trail220 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but they are not in 90 pecnt of popular western culture.

[–]DashneDK2King of LBFM2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Yeah? And so what? They're still considered pretty, so I don't know what beauty standard you're talking about.

You also have to consider that beauty standards are perhaps not entirely arbitrary constructs of culture.

[–]trail220 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

the beuty standard is condseidered univeralsy attractive generaly in culture.

Asian, black etc.. are considered exotic

Someone said asian guys or indian guys fetishize white women. How is that possible when the beuty standard; the cuturaly accepted measure of what is beutiful, is white.

That is why its hard to fetishize white women. Yes you can liek them because they are white. But they are the standard of physical attrctiveness in the cuture they were raised in.

I am not saying other races arent attractive. BUt to say only date other peopel of your race is to not date 90 percent of the people you meet on a daily basis.

[–]DashneDK2King of LBFM2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Asian, black etc.. are considered exotic

So what if they are? That's just another word for beautiful.

Someone said asian guys or indian guys fetishize white women. How is that possible when the beuty standard; the cuturaly accepted measure of what is beutiful, is white.

No it's not. We just agreed that Asian girls are beautiful. So there is an Asian beauty standard for you.

BUt to say only date other peopel of your race is to not date 90 percent of the people you meet on a daily basis.

Asians don't have Asian families and friends? Indians don't have Indian family and friends? Blacks don't have black family and friends? This would only make sense for the minority who had been adopted into a white family.

[–]trail220 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

all you have to do is watch tv and open a magazine or mivue to know that there is white standard of beuty. I dont think you understand what its lue to look a certain way then ti watch every popular cultural medium and not look like that. Honestly it was only until I saw a show with a person who came from my cultural background did I realize how odd it was and how much it unconsiously affected me.

You think just cus someone is asian or black, that most of the new people they meet are asian and balck?

[–]DanLanBan1 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

all you have to do is watch tv and open a magazine or mivue to know that there is white standard of beuty. I

This is what I see when I turn the TV on

http://prizamarioni.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/dira-5.jpg

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/37600000/Rick-Mora-Actor-Model-native-american-actors-singers-etc-37660208-368-500.jpg

Maybe you should try tuning in into to a Mexican TV channel or something. It does you no good to fill your head up with beauty standards. They don't mean anything. People are living their lives knowing perfectly well they aren't Hugh Jackman or boy-girl Emma Watson and they have relationships, marriages and babies.

No one cares.

onestly it was only until I saw a show with a person who came from my cultural background did I realize how odd it was and how much it unconsiously affected me.

What race do you belong to? Asian? There's plenty of Asian women to go around. African-American? Lots of women like that. Indian? Lots of them to meet.

[–]trail221 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

go to google. Type in beutiful women.

How many of the women do you see are not white . 1 in what, 15 or 20 is black. ANd how dark skinned is that black women. How many are asian, or indian. maybe 1 in 20...

This matters. I knwo you dont think so but it honestly does.

[–]sunkindonut149Blue Pill Mouse0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You date your family?

[–]DashneDK21 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

"90 percent of the people you meet on a daily basis" are your family. It's about what is normal for a person, and what is more normal than your own family. Not some guy you see on the telly.

[–]sunkindonut1491 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

90% of the people I see on a daily basis that isn't Christmas or Thanksgiving are definitely not my family. I'm not a 14 year old.

[–]DashneDK21 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

But you were 14 once. And younger. During your formative years.

[–]sunkindonut1491 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Most Indian kids in the US go to schools, camps, and scout groups that are predominantly white, sometimes black. Maybe 1 in 10 Asian kids goes to a school that is more than 20% Asian.

Camps in America are mostly sleep away and the majority of minority kids go to integrated churches. Most Muslims in the US aren't Asian, but African American, and many Hindus and Buddhists don't worship congregationally.

At age 14, I spent more time at work and school than with family. My mom worked around 50 hours a week. It's even more true of an immigrant. It's not just 90% of Junior's friends who are different races, it's 90% of mom and dad's friends too if they have a college education. I always met people of different cultures inside my house.

The idea of the 'old minority neighborhood' isn't true except for the pre-1965 groups like black, Mexican etc. Specific areas for Indian, Korean, Filipino, Russian etc people are central business districts. Very few people live there.

[–]DanLanBan1 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

90% percent of the people I meet on a daily basis are people I've never seen before and never will I see them again. Am I the only one who commutes to work?

[–]sunkindonut149Blue Pill Mouse0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most non poor Asians especially Indians in the US live in white neighborhoods. The residential segregation thing typically applies to black people on the east coast.

[–]DanLanBan0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

How is that possible when the beuty standard; the cuturaly accepted measure of what is beutiful, is white.

Tell me how how you can say that when there are people like this walking around?

http://7wallpapers.net/wp-content/uploads/11_Patricia-Velasquez.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/eb/81/68/eb8168364263317290f3a92ed0f1789d--mexican-guys-latino-men.jpg

Do you really believe people like this would have problem dating in the USA or anywhere else?

That is why its hard to fetishize white women. Yes you can liek them because they are white. But they are the standard of physical attrctiveness in the cuture they were raised in.

Excuses. People who moved to other Countries can still find people to date. They either date people who came from their own Country, or they date locally. If black men managed to date white women in the 60's and prior to that when it was lethal to do so, I can't be convinced non-white men have trouble dating white women. As for being born within a different culture from your own and wanting to date the local women. Not really hard. I've known guys who are from Africa, born and raised in white Countries and they are dating white women. I've seen white women checking out men who weren't white. I've seen Indian men with white women.

Have you ever seen a man from Argentina having trouble dating white women? Its not about skin color or culture. Its about guys who are below average trying to date women who are above their own league. The same result would happen if they tried to date attractive Asians while not measuring up.

[–]trail220 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There is penty of sats, not just in okcupid but in other sources.

http://faculty.chicagobooth.edu/emir.kamenica/documents/racialpreferences.pdf

But believe hat you want.

[–]DanLanBan1 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Import a wife from Asia or South America. There's plenty of women there who are up to marrying a guy.

[–]sunkindonut149Blue Pill Mouse0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Jewish and Italian guys "fetishized" white girls in the 1950s. Read any book about "ethnic white" guys' angst that takes place in NYC in the 1950s.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lol they likely will not.

[–]DarkLord0chinChin5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Are Jewish girls white

[–]exit_sandmanstill not the MGTOW sandman FFS2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Ashkenazim, Sephardim, Mizrahim or Ethiopians?

[–]DarkLord0chinChin0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Typical

[–]caesarfecitPurple Pill Man2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Ashkenazim then - that's by far the largest ethnic grouping of Jews, and they're as white as white gets.

[–]DarkLord0chinChin3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

They look slightly Arabic

[–]TheGreasyPoleObjectively Pro-moderate filth4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Thats not surprising, as they appear to be descended relatively purely from the people who lived in the Levant 3000-2000 years ago.

The people they're most closely related to are people you'd think of us "arabs" today. Palestinians, Jordanians, Lebanese, Syrians.

With only about 2k years since the "split", and with a noted interest in breeding "solely within their sug-group" all that time, of course they look "arabic"... They're the descendents of the same tribes, in the same part of the world, and lived there for tens of thousands of years, and only "left home" yesterday genetically speaking.

If they're "white".... then so are the lebanese, syrians, jordanians, and Iraqi's.... they're essentially a religious enclave within that broader ethnicity.

[–]purpleppparmchair evo psych0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Racial category is a bit fuzzy. Caucasian-looking middle eastern people are actually considered 'white' by the US census. White nationalists will exclude both Jews and Arabs from white obviously. SJWs will consider Arabs 'brown' to grant them victimhood status.

[–]sunkindonut149Blue Pill Mouse0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

In the 1950s, Middle Eastern and Hispanic people were legally considered white on the census. That doesn't mean society considered them white.

The reason they were recategorized as POC is because they had no legal defense against the very real racist violence that they faced. Thousands of Hispanics were also randomly deported - throughout all of history.

[–]LittleknownfactsVaguely Uncivil Comment2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

They look slightly Arabic

It's the big noses, gives us an "exotic" look.

[–]justtypingcuz 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Gives you a toucan look.

[–]LittleknownfactsVaguely Uncivil Comment2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Toucans are exotic.

[–]justtypingcuz 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Noy very attractive tho 😂 except maybe In a keep you in a cage or admire you from afar typa way.

[–]LittleknownfactsVaguely Uncivil Comment1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Noy very attractive tho 😂 except maybe In a keep you in a cage or admire you from afar typa way.

"Exotic" is a code for pretty despite a big nose. So yeah, pretty much. Unless your also part of the tribe.

[–]DanLanBan0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Does this look white to you?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/custom/Meena/Portman_Embed_Bottom.jpg

This is white

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/45/64/36/4564368365440951a3f282a45802214f--blue-eyes-pretty-face.jpg

This is an Italian man

http://beardpictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/italian-man-beard.jpg

Does he look white?

Why are people here enthralled with white people?

[–]LewisCross 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

And why black men do better in the open western SMP than all other demographics?

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪[S] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Masculinity

[–]LewisCross 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly

[–]DanLanBan0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

And why black men do better in the open western SMP than all other demographics?

Because white men are pussies and start looking bad early in life. I was looking at a guy who streams video games for a living and boy was I surprised when he said he was 28. Everyone who was listening said they thought he was 45 😂

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M7-OiT5fpfk/maxresdefault.jpg

White people peak very early and then its all downhill.

There are exceptions

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Marlon_Brando_%28cropped%29.jpg Wait. I think his parents were Italians.. forget what I said.

[–]purpleppparmchair evo psych2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah I hope race discussions will be allowed in the megathreads at least. Can't really have an honest discussion about SMP otherwise.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I bet most of the mods are white people, so they probably won't.

[–]sunkindonut149Blue Pill Mouse2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Rational discussions about race do lead to race baiting though.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪[S] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yes they often do

[–]ANTIFA_SARKEESIAN 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Maybe consider the possibility that the mods don't want to turn this into a safe space for "race realists" to vent their discredited racist nonsense ad nauseum.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪[S] 12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If an Indian man in california is having trouble dating white women and is complaining about it, how is it illicit race realism to discuss the role of ethnicity in his dating issues?

Do you believe ethnicity plays no role at all in his dating issues?

[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe consider the possibility that you shut the hell up. Unless you, in your enlightened feminist whiteness, get to femsplain Indian and Asian men's life experiences. You don't even see how racist you are, shitlady.

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[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ll attempt to make a high effort post about dating as a minority tomorrow.

[–]SoNotMarshall 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Atlas use your godly wisdom to teach me how to be successful in the western SMP as an American born and raised Indian man

[–]TheGreasyPoleObjectively Pro-moderate filth2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Buy a motorbike, get tats, take drugs, develop a personality/social groups consistent with the above, trip and fall into vagina.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪[S] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

^

[–]SoNotMarshall 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But my momma won't let me get tattoos =(

[–]rfinder10 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How important are drugs? That's something I am kinda against and I value my health more than sex with a drug hobbyist

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪[S] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

See TGPs response

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