Before you read this please understand it is coming from someone who is looking for help changing a mindset and open to change. Thanks everyone!

Are women who say they want a "provider and protector" in a man toxic or hateful for feeling this way? Are men who make the money to be these things wrong if they say they want fit, feminine, submissive women? I honestly do understand why people have such a problem with Kevin Samuels. I understand he was very blunt a often rude with women who called in his show and that's unfortunate but I never hear anyone speak on the women who called in his show and often stated that men who dont earn a certain amount of money are not even worth dating. I want to feel the same about Kevin Samuels that the majority of people in the community feel but when I hear women reduce men to a paycheck it hard not to feel like okay that's fine what's your "height weight dress size" and feel retributive justice deep down. I often hear women both online in this very community and in my personal life talk about "dating down" when referring to men who make less. They really makes me feel like Kevin Samuels is on to something. It seems to me he is the only one speaking up for men. I cant tell you how many times I have heard a women in my family talk about how some guy is dusty or broke. I dont mind either of these things but if a guy talks about how a woman is fat or ugly it's basically a hate crime.

I think many Kevin Samuels fans get written off as judgemental women haters but many men myself include have lived there whole life hearing how men ain't shit unless they are paying bills and acting like how "men should act" while hearing suggesting women "acting like women" is sexist. Kevin was the first person I have ever heard in my life that said it's okay to be a man and that you have value just being a men regardless of your income and that if we as men are going to be judged on our income then when it comes to women get your "money's worth". Untill we as a community address the underlying issue that women can judge men for income or hight or whatever but men cant do the same with out being gaslighted Kevin Samuels and his ideas will never go away. Just my thoughts....